EPTI wouldn’t vote you to save myself, but I’d vote you (in hindsight) if you stuck onto me like opportunistic scum. I didn’t see you that in that light now and I am trying to see other possibilities with Rels flipping town. I also am not really typing well on my phone. Going to get on a laptop
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I wouldn’t vote you to save myself, but I’d vote you (in hindsight) if you stuck onto me like opportunistic scum. I didn’t see you that in that light now and I am trying to see other possibilities with Rels flipping town. I also am not really typing well on my phone. Going to get on a laptop | ||
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On March 22 2018 22:41 Mocsta wrote: This is so weird... technically you were an easy wagon?? Why are yoy doing this? I was an easy wagon? Most people had me at a “I’ll lynch Conversion over x since I am not getting my primary lynch,” it randomly picked up steam, and then 6 people jumped on me in a mater of minutes. Maybe 1-2 people had actual reasons on why they thought I was scum on my wagon | ||
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On March 22 2018 22:42 Palmar wrote: although to be fair, conversion is close to being a lurker, he has no memorable interactions I can think of This is a correct evaluation and where I should be in most people’s minds, IMO. I will play more seriously now for whatever that counts for. | ||
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On March 20 2018 22:37 Mocsta wrote: Gonna hit the sack but wanted to say overall this is a good day1 start. ~17pages with 20 people and enough content to gwnuinely scum hunt. Over the next 24hours we need to focus on resolutions to these topics. With 20 players and ?5? Scum there is a 1/4 chance scum is in every convo. Consolidation will be key as last minute vote swaps is both scum favoured and will make future vote count analysis almost useless. Off the top of my head big topics are: Exo/kelsier Noobking/HF Probably moosey and the self vote Df and the roleplay Slam vibe change I cant tell if koshi is in the mix or mentiined as collateral I think only non posters are sicklucker and rels Thoughts before bed and wjthout properly reading page 21 onwards. Moose is town I have no issue with df. Not sure why others are annoyed. Exo kelsier is tvt Hf uncertain Nk scum Slam need to read medic to confirm vibe change Dark horse read is one of palmar and hf is scum Not sure which Something tickled me weird with palmar. Will see if it still triggers me when i wake. Hf here cos i found him to be a bit more flacid than i am used to in palmar presence. Could be a respect thing. Meh. Nite First occurrence of NK being scum here, by Mocsta, with saying one of Palmar/HF is scum On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote: So... im in an odd predicament (1) I have an important dinner tonight so wont be able to critically read anything (2) Where I work has been thrown in an unplanned shutdown.. I really dont know if I can commit the time to apply critical thought. I still think Day1 comes down to resolutions on the big topics: Slam Moosy Ex0/KSC, Koshi/Disfo/n00bking, DF Rest is probably side distractions. My current (albeit loose) thoughts are: Above null pile (Ex0_, rsoultin, vivax, rayn, Kelsier, ykl, disinfo, Palmar Null pile (HF, Conversion, Slam, darthfoley, Rels, tictock, sicklucker, koshi, moosy) Below null pile (n00bking) Of the above null, I feel least strong about disinfo as its based on a heuristic that is gut feel only. Conversion is in null pile as I havent focused on anything he has said. Slam I would still need to meta-dive. DF I actually like, but I give pause since so many others have issue. I wouldnt lynch today, and would prefer not to use a bullet on. tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything. moosy i agree is not on the table Day1. Could be easy mislynch; so focus on other scum team. Apologies to leave it like this. Palmar suddenly becomes above null, and HF is null. Abandons his Palmar/HF 50/50 scum theory? On March 21 2018 08:55 Mocsta wrote: n00bking indulge with that Ni insight. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=n00bKing What is your position on top 2 or 3 scum candidates. + Show Spoiler [NK] + #144 - Setup speculation #159 - Setup speculation #188 - Vivax -> Moosy clarification: Read unknown #276 - tictock -> ExO_ clarification: Read unknown #278 - Interesting Slam comment (indicative of NK/Slam team). DF comment. Vote Disfo. ykl suggestive pressure. No true position taken (as liking Koshi vote can be similar to liking ykl pressure) #280 - Critiquing grammer #337 - Confirms that conversion is being ignored. Intentionally dodging ykl (of relevance, as later NK states ykl is good target for pressure. This should then present a fantastic opportunity to counter-pressure) #339 - Does not take position on mcosta or tictock. Just states that mocsta logic is poor. #340 - curious about slam. Odd phrasing. Trying to draw out information (one of the first posts from NK trying to do this) - the question is for what purpose. #341 - Indicates agreement abotu Ex0 not reading the thread (or likely to be town) #343 - Arguing actions in theory, with no comment on players at hand. Trys to sway HF into a disagreement with tictock #344 - Comprehension question #361 - Is arguing logic, without indicating a lean towards any player in question #591 - Takes position that DF is leaning town #592 - Filler #595 - Debate logic. States Exo actions are indicative of town play; but at no points declare Ex0 town #603 - Requests conversion to build a case against him #604 - Wants to target lurkers and inexpereinced players to divulge motive. LOL. now that I have filter dived scrap that request ##Vote: n00bking
NK is playing filler this cycle, while chastising other players for being illogical. Classic scum maintaining activity by shitting on others to avoid posting real content. P.S.NK known for wordplay.. pay attention to end of day posts with moosy/prplhz last game. If NK flips scum, slam is almost certainly scum Votes for NK, says he is scum. "Known for wordplay" assumes previous game meta being applied to scumread him here. On March 20 2018 18:14 Holyflare wrote: Yeah I'm just gonna vote noobking and have free mafia. On March 21 2018 08:58 Mocsta wrote: Perhaps its the ply of your toilet paper, but you havent tickled me yet in the way a town HF normally tickles me. I realise I don't know how a scum!HF tickles, but I have certainly seen the town tickle across the games this year. Until I see a bit more of that magic around the game, you are still in my null pile. Point of contention here-- I do agree with HF. Why is Mocsta calling HF null when they share the scumread? should be at least the same level of Palmar since they agree with a scumread ? Question here for me is why is Palmar above HF with the similar read? On March 21 2018 10:35 Mocsta wrote: NK I have no desire to argue with a scum read. Its pointless for the spectators. The only comment I will make is that #652 reads like a classic scum "what have i done wrong" post. The short of it is this: You are intelligent enough to have awareness of how you play the game as town. This is very clear from filter diving prior town/scum games. There is good consistency, so kudos to you. However, following a checklist of town tells; doesn't account for the dynamic nature of each game as an individual sum of parts. You are playing like old-school rubber-band AI; when you need to implement machine learning to truly be considered elite. You are scum. Nothing further to say. Reinforcing n00bking is scum, but doesn't re-evaluate his HF read On March 21 2018 15:57 Mocsta wrote: anyways, sorry slam i had enough for today, and already 10 pages of filter for ppl to wake up to & i dont want to add anymore. my vote is sticking with n00bking and i hope yours it too! big split shenanies should be prevented in unknown setup game. we need to be able to hold people accountable for voting actions once more informatino is known. sticks with n00bking here On March 22 2018 00:46 Mocsta wrote: Wrfrf Wht is ff voting nk Yikes gets off n00bking because FF votes him? even though he was happy with disfo/nk wagon, hops off to Rels. Also, not a lot on FF from his filter from what I can gather... so why is FF voting for NK enough to make him vote off his preferred disfo/nk wagons? Wondering if disfo claimed here or not, would have to double check On March 22 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote: i have to vote conversion at this point just to save myself ffs. i dont think i filter-dived him before, so taking a leap of faith. wtf is going on. This is not a good post. Instead of trying to divert a lynch towards one of his many scum reads, he just wants to coinflip on me. His vote pattern is now n00bking -> rels -> me After that he goes back to rels and then leaves a farewell post.. that doesn't do much | ||
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On March 23 2018 00:49 Conversion wrote: Mocsta, why on earth is Palmar more town than HF when he's sharing a similar scum read on you? Also, you had people willing to divert onto a Rels lynch, so why did you jump on me to save yourself when you had enough time to get people onto a lynch that wasn't you? EBWOP. fat palmed my left click onto post.. | ||
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On March 23 2018 00:57 Holyflare wrote: Read my case yo. You missed out the parts where mocsta says noobking looks better but then says he's scummy a few posts later but then repeats he looks better again when everyone unvoted him. I read that. I just want him to answer that first because his reasons for saying you are not great makes no sense when you literally share the same scum read as him. Also him voting me "to save himself" looks bad too because I wanted to lynch n00bking all of day1 until no one else wanted to... and he wanted to until FF randomly voted n00bking | ||
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Bad pronoun usage there. Well, bad grammar overall. Mocsta, why on earth is Palmar above null and HF is null when HF is sharing a similar scum read to you, Mocsta? | ||
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On March 23 2018 05:44 rsoultin wrote: No one that I'm aware of is calling you scum for not making a list. A read coming out of nowhere with nothing behind it is scummy, especially at EoD when they're one of the wagons. That simple. If you want to not get scumread for that sort of thing, post your reads (in a list or just as you go). So me townreading possibly the only other legitimate wagon that would save my hide is somehow making me scummy.. okay. You play your game and I'll play mine. | ||
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On March 23 2018 05:45 disformation wrote: common. that is not what I've meant. please don't start making list posts. problem is: when I open your filter to see what your read/opinion on person x is, there is a fairly high chance that I don't find anything. so I have the feeling that you have no opinion/don't care about person x's alignment. which then makes me very confused when you are are like "hey mocsta, bro, u totally town". cause I am not sure why or where that comes from. and you avoiding to post stuff unless directly asked about something is not very trust inspiring. Right, and when I open your filter I see a bunch of waffling here and there. My heuristic says that scum do this more than town. Do I attribute this heuristic now to fit you as scum? No, I don't, because I use this thing called critically thinking to try and see what the context of the your filter makes you scum. The fact that both you and rsoultin are seriously trying to tell me that that fact that I townread Mocsta out of nowhere is scummy is hilarious. I'll cede the point of not posting reads/lists/whatever you two want as scummy as your heuristic, and I won't argue with that. But calling me scummy for not trying to countervote Mocsta? Go ahead and get me lynched. I don't care. As I said to rsoul, I'll play my game and you play yours. | ||
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Kinda sounds like your read on me this whole game. You literally placed me as equally to a dude who made 0 posts and then got replaced. Not scummier or townier, literally in the exact same spot. That's the last post I'm making to you this cycle and most likely the next. | ||
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On March 23 2018 05:52 rsoultin wrote: DF was another viable lynch option at EoD. Your reluctance to lynch mocsta out of nowhere does not win you any town points with me and I'm not sure why you're so determined to push this narrative. - There were other lynch options - Even if there weren't, you could be mafia together Go ahead and play your game, but that doesn't make my point invalid in the slightest. If you can't see why your point is stupid then we'll end it here. Enjoy! | ||
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On March 23 2018 05:31 disformation wrote: that's actually another point. like tons of ppl scumread nk. why wasn't he the lynch? I mean I think palmar, hf and rayn have a scumread on him? usually that would mean a lynch mob I'm going to filter dive you for it soon, but if you can, can you answer what made you hop off n00bking an hour after you voted him? | ||
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On March 23 2018 06:32 Koshi wrote: Man I was going to post this on deadline but w.e. I think the risk is too high cool people will die. RIP 3 townies. I am paying attention. Suprise! Best reads in spoiler. Town MVP Throphy = thx. Mafia will probably win if slightly mafia balanced. Too much KP. Too many limited town players. + Show Spoiler + Top town 18. Coagulation (town seal) 9. KelsierSC (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs) 6. rsoultin (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs) 7. Vivax (tip top town, because he lives in Vivax world) Townish 3. ExO_ (Some1 mindmelded with him. The mindmeldee is mostly town. Other than that he doesn't look good) 17. Tictock (I said this after a post he made) 4. Mocsta (seems lost. Being lost here is good) 20. MoosyDoosy (I think he is town just based on thread sentiment against him) I have hope for these players 15. Palmar (high hopes) 1. Holyflare (less high hopes) Can flip either way 8. raynpelikoneet (not enough cares during lynch, nothing smart during night, pushes the idea df is town on something he didn't read properly. But he seems a bit lost which is townie) 14. disformation (still looks mafia to me) 10. ykl (Meh, needs more sass, way too safe) 11. n00bking (He might be good at playing mafia, I think he is town) 5. Alakaslam (potential false prophet) mafia 2. Conversion (I call him mafia, he says I am always wrong on his alignment.) 12. darthfoley (I call him mafia, he says I am wrong.) 16. Fecalfeast (0 impact) Koshi I think this is the 4th game you called me mafia, and this is the 4th time you'll be wrong. Can this be nominated for an award or something? Anyways I got distr | ||
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