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On March 21 2018 20:19 Vivax wrote:
And I don't like that your post is basically begging me to unscumread you. I don't hate you ExO I just think you are mafia and I have to lynch mafia to play the game. So please stop giving me a guilty conscience.
Okay this is fine. I'm not mafia, I'm town, but sitting here back and forthing on this will get us no where.
Who are your other top scum reads?
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Koshi's posting style on day 1 drives me crazy because it seems so much like he doesn't give a shit -- but this seems more consistent with town Koshi than scum Koshi. Granted I've only seen scum Koshi one time that I can recall, but was on his team and his post did't have this I dont give a fuck attitude.
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On March 21 2018 20:25 rsoultin wrote:
yeah i'm not scum @.@
and 'calling me out' has nothing to do with how my reads progress
i think you're town, exo. and you're frankly shit at reading me. so i'd appreciate it if you gave this read of yours the doubt it deserves. it's pretty irritating when someone is this certain i'm scum every game and is this constantly wrong, but never seems to adjust his behavior
@ rayn, yeah idk. i'm not sure on disinfo at all, just would be more comfortable lynching into my five. and the comment about wanting to talk about slam had more to do with my wanting to not lynch him than that making him town lol >< selfishness
I'll admit, I've been bad at reading you in the past, and in general am very susceptible to OMGUSing hard and tunneling hard instead of being to assess and re-evaluate. However I think I raised some very valid points when I posted. You weren't offering any hard reads, were very wishy-washy and were sticking to your one read.
I'll take another look at your filter but you're still pretty high on my list.
Does anybody have an example of a scum game for Noobking I can look at? He's made so many long ass posts and it's hard for me to believe scum could sustain his level of posts like this. A lot of the posts are terrible, but he is at least taking the time to type up all of that consistently.
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@rsoultin,
Can you explain your initial comment saying "I don't think noob is scum, but I could vote him because I'm bored". I don't understand how that post can come from a town player.
If Slam isn't the lynch today who would your second choice be and why?
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On March 21 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote:
@NK, don't agree on conv, but your slam point is solid.
@KSC...I still don't remember reading his filter. Would have to check the filters of the people voting him. Which I'll probably do, but honestly I don't want to lynch him anyway because:
- viva read feels genuine to me <- this was my hesitance earlier
- focus on finding scum in those scumreading him feels super natural from town
- he's actually trying to engage me on slam <- entirely selfish reason
Removing disinfo from the lynch pool
Can you point to where you found vivax Scum hunting? Maybe my lenses are clouded here, but it looks to me like he hasn't done a lot of this. Again, it looks to me like he's tunneled me without really even analyzing my posts, and outside of that not scum hunted at all.
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On March 21 2018 20:41 Vivax wrote:
I'd lynch kelsier and ff as alternative to exo.
FF cause he marginally looks like he doesn't want to be seen doing nothing, since he posted lists.
That's really kinda interesting to me. Are you trying to imply I'm on a scum team with kelsier?
Yeah I'm not sure I'm buying that as a real read.
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Leaving for work.
@Vivax I'm really curious to see your response and explanation to wanting to lynch Kelsier while also I'm your #1 scum read.
@rsoultin responses to the above would be appreciated.
I'll be back in ~45 minutes but only for about 15 before I start work
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On March 21 2018 20:56 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 20:41 ExO_ wrote:
@rsoultin,
Can you explain your initial comment saying "I don't think noob is scum, but I could vote him because I'm bored". I don't understand how that post can come from a town player.
If Slam isn't the lynch today who would your second choice be and why? I didn't say that lol >< Palmar, and I've already explained.
On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn.
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On March 21 2018 21:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 21:03 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2018 20:56 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 20:41 ExO_ wrote:
@rsoultin,
Can you explain your initial comment saying "I don't think noob is scum, but I could vote him because I'm bored". I don't understand how that post can come from a town player.
If Slam isn't the lynch today who would your second choice be and why? I didn't say that lol >< Palmar, and I've already explained. On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn. Yes, this is what I said lol. I mean, the point is I didn't find anything super scummy about noob I just found his posts boring? That's a far cry from saying I'm voting him because I don't think he's scum and I'm bored. I'm not sure how to make this clearer to you. Other people say he's scummy for doing the thing he did last game. I say I don't really see anything glaringly scummy, and it's not actually that close to what happened last game. But his posts are boring. I.e. could be scum. Do you not understand why boring posts could yield scum? It means a player isn't going anywhere or saying anything interesting...i.e. blending, possibly having trouble scumhunting.
I think it’s a contradiction. If boring posts are scummy, then you should think his posts are scummy if you think they’re boring.
I don’t think it’s a very good reason to say you’re okay with lynching him just because his posts are boring. In my opinion you are directly stating you do not find him scummy but don’t care, not that you find him boring and therefore scummy.
Town should want to lynch scum, not a boring town
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On March 21 2018 21:27 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 21:20 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2018 21:09 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 21:03 ExO_ wrote:On March 21 2018 20:56 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 20:41 ExO_ wrote:
@rsoultin,
Can you explain your initial comment saying "I don't think noob is scum, but I could vote him because I'm bored". I don't understand how that post can come from a town player.
If Slam isn't the lynch today who would your second choice be and why? I didn't say that lol >< Palmar, and I've already explained. On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn. Yes, this is what I said lol. I mean, the point is I didn't find anything super scummy about noob I just found his posts boring? That's a far cry from saying I'm voting him because I don't think he's scum and I'm bored. I'm not sure how to make this clearer to you. Other people say he's scummy for doing the thing he did last game. I say I don't really see anything glaringly scummy, and it's not actually that close to what happened last game. But his posts are boring. I.e. could be scum. Do you not understand why boring posts could yield scum? It means a player isn't going anywhere or saying anything interesting...i.e. blending, possibly having trouble scumhunting. I think it’s a contradiction. If boring posts are scummy, then you should think his posts are scummy if you think they’re boring. I don’t think it’s a very good reason to say you’re okay with lynching him just because his posts are boring. In my opinion you are directly stating you do not find him scummy but don’t care, not that you find him boring and therefore scummy. Town should want to lynch scum, not a boring town Your opiniion is wrong  I know what I said. And I wasn't looking to lynch 'boring town' You are taking qualifiers and using them as absolutes. He is not the scummiest scum who ever scummed =/= he is not scummy. I don't know how to teach you reading comprehension. And I don't have much nice to say. Like, I know for a fact that I have probably some of the best reading comprehension in the States, at least out of those who bother to apply for graduate programs. Highest percentile. I don't actually KNOW what people should be able to comprehend and shouldn't. But my instinctive response to this is to call you bad for not being able to read. But if you want to put a vote on me or call me scum based off not understanding English and choosing to interpret it differently than it was written, I can't stop you. And I don't think you're scum, so whatever. This is pointless. Once you have an actual reason to scumread me, I might address it. Otherwise -shoos-
You’re right it’s not absolute — but I think you’re using qualifiers to hide the intention behind your opinion (and also attempting to insult my reading comprehension to do the same thing). He’s not the scummiest scum to ever scum could imply he’s scum but not that scummy, or that he’s town. You’re follow up sentence that you want to lynch him because he’s boring implies town moreso in my eyes.
Regardless you’re avoiding posting your opinion here: Did you think noob was scum? Did you think he was town?
Either way I think your use of wanting to do it just because he’s boring is bad here
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On March 21 2018 20:46 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote:
@NK, don't agree on conv, but your slam point is solid.
@KSC...I still don't remember reading his filter. Would have to check the filters of the people voting him. Which I'll probably do, but honestly I don't want to lynch him anyway because:
- viva read feels genuine to me <- this was my hesitance earlier
- focus on finding scum in those scumreading him feels super natural from town
- he's actually trying to engage me on slam <- entirely selfish reason
Removing disinfo from the lynch pool Can you point to where you found vivax Scum hunting? Maybe my lenses are clouded here, but it looks to me like he hasn't done a lot of this. Again, it looks to me like he's tunneled me without really even analyzing my posts, and outside of that not scum hunted at all.
also @rsoultin, this post—where have you seen Vuvax scum hunting?
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on lunch—I wont really be around for deadline so I’d like to get vote settled.
Disinfo — im not sure I can believe you forgot you threw df into town. and your reaction to it looks to me like a scum that got caught and is scrambling.
Have mixed feelings though. Kelsier’s vote on disinfo early on for no reason (still not explained —the quote Koshi quoted is NOT a reason) makes me feel somewhat uncomfortable. I suppose it could be scum sheeping scum but it all feels weird to me.
I’m not really sure I haven’t hated disinfo’s filter either...but I can’t see a town forgetting who they town read.
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On March 22 2018 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
Could be getting white-knighted or just hard mafia-siding in mocsta's pocket again, but I find it unlikely that we keep thinking along the same lines so frequently irt.
HF, is there anyone of Rels/Slam/Palmar that I could convince you to vote for?
Quickly sum up Rels for me — why do you think he should be the vote? just omgus?
I don’t think he’s particularly good looking and think he doesn’t have a good reason to add me into his lynch pile, but evidently has some rep for ignoring day 1. If he was scum he could’ve skirted by without saying anything. What has he said that makes you think by posting he’s scummier than if he just stayed silent?
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Mocsta, between disinfo and NK who would you lynch?
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I think the more I look at it the less of a fan I am of the disinfo lynch. But I dont think I am of NK either. :/
Blehhh
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Jesus Christ wtf is happening. Mocsta, rels and df leading wagons?
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As I was leaving work car wouldn’t start and I’ve been dealing with that...jumped in thread with about 10 minutes left. Tried to read and keep up with what was happening. I felt Rels was the best choice out of the people being voted but I had no time to think.
:/
I’m off to keep dealing with my car.
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Awake now, but tired.
This is a part of the game I struggle with, feeling motivated to filter dive and scum hunt after the mislynch. I haven't gone back and read exactly what went down at EoD yesterday. I had about two minutes to either switch my vote or leave it worthless on Kelsier -- I chose to switch to Rels because out of the options he seemed like the most likely to be scum.
Either way, I'm feeling bleh about it.
Rayn you said you were interested in me. Do you or anybody else have questions I can answer?
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On March 22 2018 21:15 n00bKing wrote:
Or should they not kill anyone, hold their shot, and hope to get off a shot later in the game?
I think there's two approaches here I would consider:
Shoot Disinfo. Operate on the assumption that Scum won't target him for KP going into Night 1. If he's telling the truth I'll know then. Especially with the way the voting went (chaos after he blue claimed) maybe could use his thoughts and my own thoughts to formulate an educated opinion on who is scum. And if he was lying, easy scum dead.
Alternatively I might shoot Vivax. Might just be OMGUS but I don't think Vivax has scum hunted this game. I think his post have largely distracted town and can't make sense coming from a towny point of view. He's scum reading both myself and Keslier -- this doesn't make sense in my opinion. Particularly with the discussion I had with Keslier earlier in the day. And I don't think he's ever given a good explanation.
+ Show Spoiler +On March 22 2018 03:32 Calix wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count
disformation [5]: Koshi, n00bking, KelsierSC, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare n00bking [4]: Conversion, Holyflare, Mocsta, MoosyDoosy, Tictock, Fecalfeast, disformationKelsierSC [2]: ExO_, darthfoley rsoultin [1]: Alakaslam, Rels ExO_ [1]: Vivax, Tictock, MoosyDoosyAlakaslam [1]: rsoultin Rels [1]: Mocsta ykl [0]: AlakaslamMocsta [0]: MoosyDoosyTictock [0]: Mocsta, MoosyDoosyPalmar [0]: KoshiNot Voting [5]: ykl, Palmar, sicklucker, disformation, Alakaslam
disformation is currently the lynch.
The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 21 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
If there is an error in the vote count, let us know via PM. On March 22 2018 03:48 Vivax wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote KelsierSC
At the time, Keslier is the 3rd wagon but 2 votes behind. He hops on the wagon with me, his primary scum read all game. I'm just not sure I believe if he really thinks I'm scum he's going to hop on a wagon with me to try to get traction for a new target (or just throw his vote away on 3rd party).
So Vivax or Disinfo. I feel like if I was a better player I would go with Disinfo because potentially more information could be learned by confirming he's blue. However I personally would be more likely to go with Vivxa: I think he's likely to be scum.
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On March 22 2018 22:18 rsoultin wrote:
ExO, explain your read on df please. I can't find a read on him in your filter anywhere, so if you have made one and I'm just being a tard with ctrl+f, if you could quote it that would be great.
(god, i'm a dip lol >< didn't even see that second spoiler from df in the moment)
Haven’t offered an opinion on DF, havent read him too closely either. However he agreed with my suspicions on you and I soft town read him at that point.
I’m still not convinced you aren’t scum though rsoul. The effort at End of Day makes me think yoy might be - but only because of effort and post count. Content wise I still think you’ve been really just meh on everyone except Slam. And I have to ask myself, were you pushing Rels based on a real read, or because you thought you could get others to go for him
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