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On March 21 2018 03:02 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
I absolutely side with exo on this one. Koshi's post is not a reason and voting with it is bad. Sarcastic quips to belittle exo when he's doing nothing particularly wrong is bad. +100. Is Kelscier being a dick alignment indicative? Or is it more of a general state of being?
Back when Kelsier actually played? Yeah. He's fairly aggressive. Plus I'm pretty sure he's town, so there's that. I can't 100% say he couldn't post like this as scum, but my recollection of his scum games when he was an active player was he'd never really dig his teeth into anything and then just afk through the game.
Kinda like he does now as both alignments when he decides not to play as town lol >< Though, to be fair, he was more present as scum than he generally is these days. Or, at least that's my impression.
This looks a lot like the old town KSC to me.
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On March 21 2018 03:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
I've skimmed up while I'm supposed tk be working.
Towny
Palmar
Rso
Hf
Didform
Not towny
Kelsier
Noobking
Moose
Back to work ask me why if you must
Yeah, you're going to need to explain why lol ><
None of those three you have up there with me are anyone I could confidently call town. (Also not sure how people should be reading me when I'm playing differently.) Disinfo could be town for his Viva read but I don't really see anything else in his filter but waffles and fluff.
I could invent reasons you're scumreading your not town lynch, but I'd much prefer you explain them yourself.
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On March 21 2018 03:38 darthfoley wrote:
I feel like rayn hasn't stuck out in this game at all unfortunately.
I have disagreed with rsoultin on like 90% of everything up to this point so
Yup, if you're town one of us is pretty wrong lol >< Why exactly did you ask about KSC if you weren't going to give any credence to a response, though?
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Was gonna wait until he got back to me, but whatevs.
##vote: Alakaslam
I'd rather people start taking stances on him, and that's unlikely to happen if I just come in occasionally and say, hey, but that slam guy!
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On March 21 2018 03:56 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 03:51 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 03:38 darthfoley wrote:
I feel like rayn hasn't stuck out in this game at all unfortunately.
I have disagreed with rsoultin on like 90% of everything up to this point so Yup, if you're town one of us is pretty wrong lol >< Why exactly did you ask about KSC if you weren't going to give any credence to a response, though? Who said I wouldn't give it any credence?
It doesn't appear that you did. I said it's basically AI that KSC is town if anything, and you decided to ignore that and just say you don't agree with me on anything.
So am I to think that this means you didn't want comments on KSC's behavior in regard to his alignment, or am I on auto-mute to you now?
Also, I really don't see how ExO's reason to scumread KSC is in any way good? It's believable to come from town cause almost all bad reasons can come from town, but it kind of clearly is lack of reading comprehension ^^;
Slam is definitely different. That you can't see it isn't really my problem, though if you haven't taken the time to look back over what I'm talking about that will probably annoy me. I can always console myself by telling myself that you could just be scum though lol ><
Problem is, I don't really expect people to get my Slam read. I just think that it's probably right.
Also, tbf, I like rayn's tone and where he's coming from, but I can't help but wonder if my read was hasty after so much silence. That said, I'm going to be stubborn for now and pretend that I have no doubts \o/ He gets busy for work so the silence itself is NAI. It's just that the read was based on early tonal things and I want something more meaty to bite into.
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On March 21 2018 04:14 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 04:03 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 03:56 darthfoley wrote:On March 21 2018 03:51 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 03:38 darthfoley wrote:
I feel like rayn hasn't stuck out in this game at all unfortunately.
I have disagreed with rsoultin on like 90% of everything up to this point so Yup, if you're town one of us is pretty wrong lol >< Why exactly did you ask about KSC if you weren't going to give any credence to a response, though? Who said I wouldn't give it any credence? It doesn't appear that you did. I said it's basically AI that KSC is town if anything, and you decided to ignore that and just say you don't agree with me on anything. So am I to think that this means you didn't want comments on KSC's behavior in regard to his alignment, or am I on auto-mute to you now? Also, I really don't see how ExO's reason to scumread KSC is in any way good? It's believable to come from town cause almost all bad reasons can come from town, but it kind of clearly is lack of reading comprehension ^^; Slam is definitely different. That you can't see it isn't really my problem, though if you haven't taken the time to look back over what I'm talking about that will probably annoy me. I can always console myself by telling myself that you could just be scum though lol >< Problem is, I don't really expect people to get my Slam read. I just think that it's probably right. Also, tbf, I like rayn's tone and where he's coming from, but I can't help but wonder if my read was hasty after so much silence. That said, I'm going to be stubborn for now and pretend that I have no doubts \o/ He gets busy for work so the silence itself is NAI. It's just that the read was based on early tonal things and I want something more meaty to bite into. to be super honest. I suck hard at reading slam (and chez for that matter). so I am kinda hoping that sorts itself out. he also posted a nice vid for me. xD nah. in more seriousness: you are talking about his difference to the medic game right? ill take a look at it if I gets the time.
Yes. It's tonal, but I think it's fairly obvious even so?
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On March 21 2018 04:20 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 11:23 ykl wrote:On March 20 2018 11:07 Alakaslam wrote:On March 20 2018 11:01 ykl wrote:On March 20 2018 10:58 Mocsta wrote:On March 20 2018 10:54 ykl wrote:On March 20 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:Hi ykl. I hope you are prepared for how quickly this game is likely to pick up. People usually throw out votes super early around here to kinda get the ball rolling, though it is up to you to determine how serious these votes are. + Show Spoiler +Hint: Koshi's votes are not likely to be very serious It sounds like you might be familiar with Forum Mafia, do you play on another site? Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it. I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia. Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason. I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path. PING. What gives this impression other than TMI. Post 9 / 12 I don't think either are acting scummy by trying to get the ball rolling but they're doing so with really shitty reasons? Pffffffffffft no sson. Trying to get the ball rolling is a great way to hide- by rowing the boat and singing “Holhiro, Duwiiduwiidii...” all the way to Naziland and scum victory. Scum can be passive and active, and frankly had Mocsta not pointed out your stance there I’d be going after Conversion atm. That's a pretty fair point and I guess I'm more used to passive scum. It seems horrifically weird that you want to go out that early to accuse someone when you're scum and draw attention. IDK, I usually read that as "good but dumb". Also, I don't mind if you want to put suspicion on me, my posts haven't been great and I'm trying to work out how this goes. Just make sure to read other people too. Must’ve had a lot of chelada or weed or crack Unvoting
-squints at-
Are you now going to tell me you have no idea why you voted for him in the first place?
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On March 21 2018 04:18 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 03:54 Fecalfeast wrote:On March 21 2018 03:24 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 03:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
I've skimmed up while I'm supposed tk be working.
Towny
Palmar
Rso
Hf
Didform
Not towny
Kelsier
Noobking
Moose
Back to work ask me why if you must Yeah, you're going to need to explain why lol >< None of those three you have up there with me are anyone I could confidently call town. (Also not sure how people should be reading me when I'm playing differently.) Disinfo could be town for his Viva read but I don't really see anything else in his filter but waffles and fluff. I could invent reasons you're scumreading your not town lynch, but I'd much prefer you explain them yourself. Lunch breakis soon Palmar - not trolling, i don't want to lymch him Rso - trying to solve game and posting a lot Hf - tone read idk Disform - i like how he caught up like he wanted to get his tjoughts out rather than feign activity. Purely based on last few pages Kelsier - he's being prickly Noobking - literally spite because of last game and because hf said he is doing his nitpicky shit again Moose - self voters fuck off
Lol >< okay. What about viva? ExO?
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On March 21 2018 04:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
What's the slam story i skipped it
Feels too serious.
Ykl vote off of flimsy came after chiding people for voting/scumreading off flimsy.
In a nutshell.
Not quite sure what you're trying to say there, slam.
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On March 21 2018 04:37 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 04:22 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 04:20 Alakaslam wrote:On March 20 2018 11:23 ykl wrote:On March 20 2018 11:07 Alakaslam wrote:On March 20 2018 11:01 ykl wrote:On March 20 2018 10:58 Mocsta wrote:On March 20 2018 10:54 ykl wrote:On March 20 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:Hi ykl. I hope you are prepared for how quickly this game is likely to pick up. People usually throw out votes super early around here to kinda get the ball rolling, though it is up to you to determine how serious these votes are. + Show Spoiler +Hint: Koshi's votes are not likely to be very serious It sounds like you might be familiar with Forum Mafia, do you play on another site? Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it. I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia. Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason. I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path. PING. What gives this impression other than TMI. Post 9 / 12 I don't think either are acting scummy by trying to get the ball rolling but they're doing so with really shitty reasons? Pffffffffffft no sson. Trying to get the ball rolling is a great way to hide- by rowing the boat and singing “Holhiro, Duwiiduwiidii...” all the way to Naziland and scum victory. Scum can be passive and active, and frankly had Mocsta not pointed out your stance there I’d be going after Conversion atm. That's a pretty fair point and I guess I'm more used to passive scum. It seems horrifically weird that you want to go out that early to accuse someone when you're scum and draw attention. IDK, I usually read that as "good but dumb". Also, I don't mind if you want to put suspicion on me, my posts haven't been great and I'm trying to work out how this goes. Just make sure to read other people too. Must’ve had a lot of chelada or weed or crack Unvoting -squints at- Are you now going to tell me you have no idea why you voted for him in the first place? No. Read the nested quotes, I say it in there. I don’t agree anymore, in light of the dude’s filter it doesn’t make sense
Hm. Carry on. I don't think that discussing this further will refine my read on you if you're town, but you being you might.
@FF, I ask because Viva has been fairly active and ExO was pretty heavily involved with KSC. If you have a read on KSC based on 'prickliness', it would seem that you should have at least read some of ExO's posts.
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Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn.
This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong.
Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch.
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-pokes moosy-
I want to get a read on you. Currently you're just written off as indecipherable, and I know that a town moosy is better than that.
Would you vote slam with me? Noob?
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On March 21 2018 06:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I could vote noob. Not because I think he's the scummiest scummer to ever scum or even think this aligns that much with last game, but because his posting kind of makes me yawn.
This does make me feel a little better about HF because I see where he's coming from, though. It's a far cry from the rants of last game, but the focus of his posts generally feels wrong.
Also idk his first post asking how many mafia there are really rubs me the wrong way. What strategic desicions could knowing that help inform on D1/D2? (as he amends after being questioned). It's almost like a really forced attempt at a dumbtell or something. Not the strongest evidence, I know, but coupled with the rest, I'm fine with a NK lynch. Wasn't it you that said you coached him and that it's his town meta...?
I said I wasn't sure it was alignment indicative? Obviously he does it as scum; we just saw it. (Still haven't followed up on that because I'm a baddy.)
Anyway, you're missing the main points of my post, namely:
1) His posting is boring. (The bit about asking how many mafia there are is tonal and I'm not really certain on it so not going to beat it in to the ground.)
2) On reviewing his filter your read on him based on semantics makes me feel better about you because it's more prevalent than I remembered before filtering him.
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On March 21 2018 06:18 Koshi wrote:
Rsoultin and KSC are tip top town.
If above statement is proven false I will automatically not qualify for the MVP trophy.
I'd say that's boring and I want to hear more reads, but it's actually not entirely in thread sentiment (though from my perspective it should be lol ><).
Still think disinfo is the best lynch, koshi?
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On March 21 2018 06:19 Vivax wrote:
I might fall asleep before deadline.
In the meantime I want to point out that both of noobkings current voters didn't really take my bait question. I was expecting an answer from a town player motivated to lynch him. And that to a post that reads rather townie to me.
Lol I hope you fall asleep before deadline. It's in over 24 hours.
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I don't know that I agree, but I also don't disagree so much that I feel like arguing about it. Apart from the one post (his Viva read that I could almost equate to my a tinfoil Viva is a town Viva read) his waffling doesn't seem to be going anywhere except in perhaps one instance that I've already forgotten.
That's basically my benchmark for waffly players: it's okay to be uncertain, but you have to have a clear thought process that is working toward some sort of resolution.
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-flicks- I want to give you a D1 pass for reaction fishing, since I know that you do that as town. But that can't be all that you've noticed or thought about the entire game.
So why sheep slam or noob?
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On March 21 2018 07:22 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
-flicks- I want to give you a D1 pass for reaction fishing, since I know that you do that as town. But that can't be all that you've noticed or thought about the entire game.
So why sheep slam or noob? Is it really? Seems half-arsed to me now that I have seen the HF addition. I didnt realise prior that all scum read quotes have moosy being annoying or scummy in common. With that deduction, moosy has dropped town points for me.. just like DF went serious for a couple posts to convey something. I really think moosy should have stopped trolling for at least a handful of posts as well.
It's how he used to scumhunt -shrugs- I just read six of his old games while deciding to lynch him last game. And yes, HF is right. There's not much sense in lynching him for something retarded that he also does more as town.
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Yay I'm getting more waffles lol ><
Slam is bouncing around a bit more, and it makes sense if I want to lynch him that his tone might be off. But the narrative is weird. His curse of chupazi is that scum leave him lying around as town for the late game mislynch finish. (I've done this myself lol ><). The story he's pushing only makes sense if he's scum. And yes, I want to see if I've finally nailed down what makes a town slam town and a scum slam scum, so that's part of it.
TLDR: I think I'm probably still right here, but never like lynching a town slam lol ><
@df My main reason I want to lynch noob is because his posts bore me. The first post I didn't like I already said I'm not sure makes him scum.
I don't think townreading him for arrogance makes sense though. We saw that last game plenty.
Really struggling with noob in general. I think I don't like how he approaches the game at all, but even if scum i find it unlikely that all of this is made up. So I have to dismiss at least most of the what's most optimal for town talk as nai. And if that's nai I can expect him to be boring because he apparently doesn't believe in finding scum d1 @.@
But what bugs me a lot and what makes me still want to keep him on the table is this I agree with her on slam but don't share any of her other reads. And I would have been on the same page as her (other than hf) last game if town. If this is actually town nk here I have no earthly clue how our reads/methods would ever align that much lol >< This nk reads very similar to the nk who couldn't stop harping on how antitown HF was last game. It's like a scummy vs towny behaviour checklist rather than how I get my reads.
TLDR: I can't fathom how this nk, if he's town, could ever claim with a straight face that he sees mafia like I do.
A bit irrelevant, but no, rsoultin is not our sultan. It's an amalgamation of old email addresses and part of my name that coincidentally sounds like that lol >< Also arsehole which sadly HF has stopped poking fun at.
I'm not sure what I make of df. He's right that we're on different pages. I don't preclude the possibility that one or both of us is just wrong, but I understand the temptation to scumread someone for having different reads. I don't think it matters though because I don't see myself prioritizing him this phase.
Will be about.
Still think both slam and noob are good lynched for the above-stated reasons.
Also! Right, nk asked. I'm trying to lynch scum and I'm arrogant enough to believe that's possible d1 before night actions. Also already stated that getting ppl to take stances has value so, even if you somehow think lynching a scum slam would give less info than mislynching someone who talks more under pressure, people taking stances around slam can still be valuable. I don't expect ppl to read him the way I do because experience says ppl don't read others the way I do.
Doesn't mean he can't be lynched for other reasons that I might find less compelling but others like.
And regardless I'm stubborn lol ><
Anywho, I should look back through and see who else other than the obvious I'm willing to consolidate on. Probably ykl and sl. And palmar, though part of me wants to leave him be just cause it's been so long since I've gotten a chance to play with him lol ><
Need to review conversion/tt/disinfo. Probably some others I've forgotten.
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-blinks at viva-
Yeah man sorry don't think that's anything either ^^;
But hey, I could be wrong \o/
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