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KelsierSC

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March 19 2018 23:45 GMT

#182

On March 20 2018 08:37 darthfoley wrote:

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You're so 'eated for no logical reason m8. Relax, and take a chill pill

if i relax do I become as funny and not in anyway irritating as you?

KelsierSC

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March 19 2018 23:53 GMT

#184

yep midnight here too and I need sleep.

I like rayn

early mindmeld from rsoultin was nice but mocstas post was pretty bad , even vivax called it bad and that means im probably on the completely wrong track.

don't like hf , mocsta or darth.

I guess im interested in what exo has to say about me/hf seeing as he asked for context and then hasn't said anything about it. show up son.

if you have been offended in anything I have said so far. lol

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 07:34 GMT

#306

I'm here but I definitely need more caffeine to decipher this thread

I'll be posting once I get into work

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 08:39 GMT

#342

I caught up.

I am going to change my opinion of Mocsta, his first posts were pretty pointless but he has added some decent content. He made a good point about exo just after I had posted it and went ot bed so we were thinking on the same lines, his post about noobking appearing just to defend and I really like the scum read on ticktock.

For ticktock I have a few questions. You accused me of jumping on everything can you say what I jumped on exactly and which of those were bad reads? as for ticktock making his push on exo. It has the feeling of trying to get on a bandwagon, like there were some good things against exo but it was like he jumped on a post and tried to paint it scummy when it wasn't actually that bad.

For exo himself, I do have a scum lean I guess I would want to know if his read on me has changed. Some of exo's posts seem plausible like his defence of his moosy read was possibly ok..im rambling on this.

I want to read the noobkin, conversion, rayn hf stuff again because it feels important and I want to understand it, posting this to get my ideas out.

Oh and I don't like Slam but can't say anymoer than "feels"

want to ask vivax on how he feels about ticktock and NK

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 08:56 GMT

#348

On March 20 2018 17:51 ExO_ wrote:

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Before I answer whether or not my read on you has changed — can you tell me why this is such a determining factor for figuring out your read on me?

Someone makes a read based on not reading the thread/bad comprehension, I am interested in the direction they take after having things explained to them again.

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 08:58 GMT

#350

On March 20 2018 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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His "best point" was a comment to me telling Holyflare's Kelsier read is completely crap, something you were interested in earlier but somehow managed to miss this, twice.......

haha this is such a good point

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 09:01 GMT

#352

On March 20 2018 08:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Not true though.

On March 20 2018 08:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Normally i wouldn't bother but i don't wanna read pages of useless discussion when the game before the last one Kelsier had ~30 posts D1, managed to find 2 mafia in his 2 mafia reads, shot mafia on N1 and got shot on N1 so he is perfectly capable of trying and also playing well doing so. I don't know where you get what you're smoking since you played that game.

On March 20 2018 08:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I think rayn has the best point so far by a long way,

mocsta has posted dumb shit and is definitely failing the fucktard test

8:23, 8:29, 8:35...which way does time go?

all of this was proceeded by.

On March 20 2018 08:17 ExO_ wrote:

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Is this joke or serious? if serious, can you give me some context?

are you even trying kid

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 09:03 GMT

#355

On March 20 2018 18:02 Holyflare wrote:

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On March 20 2018 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On March 20 2018 17:47 ExO_ wrote:

On March 20 2018 16:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On March 20 2018 16:15 Mocsta wrote:

On March 20 2018 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Gonna look into it in 15mins when i am home, igot into middle of something rn. In the meantime any thoughts on my post 291?

Last post for a bit. Need to reserve some for influx of people waking up.

In short, I find #291 to be a serious post. I think it demonstrates a lack of care to read the thread.
Does this make Ex0_ mafia or town... well, whilst both parties do this, I think town is more likely than mafia to NOT read closely early game; and mafia is more likely than town to do this as the game progresses and becomes a waiting match.

I get what you are saying here but my problem is that the FIRST and pretty much the ONLY thing Exo focused on at that point in the game was the Kelsier "read" from Holyflare. I literally gave him the answer he was looking for and Kelsier commented on THAT post.

Exo reads Kelsier's post but somehow he has managed to completely miss the post Kelsier is commenting on (aka my post) when it is pretty much the ONLY thing he has focused in the game so far. I find it quite hard to believe a townie picks up something they find interesting and then either:
1) completely forget it was interesting the next moment, or
2) completely "miss" the point made on the fact that he found interesting and even question the dude who basically points out the post again.

I’m pretty confused here. Kelsier made a comment your post was the beat in the game so far, and implied it was because you agreed mocsta was being a fucktard. You never said this.
Re-reading just now, he’s trying to claim these were two separate statements (your post was best, mocsta is a fucktard) but It didn’t read that way to me.

His "best point" was a comment to me telling Holyflare's Kelsier read is completely crap, something you were interested in earlier but somehow managed to miss this, twice.......

I also thought he was referencing your mocsta point. You apparently did too because you said "what mocsta point"

Which I clarified about 2 minutes later.

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 09:37 GMT

#373

@exo I don't understand how you can read rayn's filter and my explanation twice and then come to your conclusion. especially not giving a shit about the HF read on me which you were asking context for. It's not like I made my post then several hours passed before rayn asked for clarification. Seems like you were asking hf to give context while not giving a shit. I think you are scum.

As for my read on hf , I will give some thoughts. I think his initial read on me was bad rayn explaind why. Then again I also just forgot to play last game so that's probably fresh in his mind. I guess I was bugged when he said it was semi joking. Like he threw it out as a joke and when it seemed it might gain some traction he added on some half assed reasoning. However his discussion with rayn about noobking seemed correct and seemed town. I'd lean town.

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 10:00 GMT

#379

On March 20 2018 18:46 ExO_ wrote:

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On March 20 2018 18:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On March 20 2018 18:07 ExO_ wrote:

On March 20 2018 18:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On March 20 2018 18:02 Holyflare wrote:

On March 20 2018 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On March 20 2018 17:47 ExO_ wrote:

On March 20 2018 16:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On March 20 2018 16:15 Mocsta wrote:

On March 20 2018 16:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Gonna look into it in 15mins when i am home, igot into middle of something rn. In the meantime any thoughts on my post 291?

His "best point" was a comment to me telling Holyflare's Kelsier read is completely crap, something you were interested in earlier but somehow managed to miss this, twice.......

I also thought he was referencing your mocsta point. You apparently did too because you said "what mocsta point"

The thing is if he really cared about this he would go read my filter and maybe he missed my post on Kelsier earlier but there is no way he goes read my filter and misses it the second time around.

I did reread your filter. However I didn’t make the connection here.

That being said, Kelsier, as of right now what’s your read on HF?

Okay let's makje it very simple, if what you say is true why do you after reading this:

post this:

On March 20 2018 10:44 ExO_ wrote:

On March 20 2018 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On March 20 2018 08:35 KelsierSC wrote:
I think rayn has the best point so far by a long way,

mocsta has posted dumb shit and is definitely failing the fucktard test

Am i missing something because i don't know what my point you are referring to is?
I don't think anything Mocsta has posted makes him anything.

@KelsierSC what point did Rayn have that was the best by a long way?

especially since you say:

On March 20 2018 10:57 ExO_ wrote:

On March 20 2018 08:44 KelsierSC wrote:

On March 20 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now you got me even more confused.

point 1. Your question of holyflares "read" on me is the best thing so far.

point 2. mocsta is making bad "fucktard" posts.

Rayn never made that second point did he? You’re putting words in his mouth and then agreeing with them....what I dont understand is why. I don’t like it — Scum reading Kelsier.

Though I’ll admit I’m not a fan of HF’s posts...I think HF is either VT or scum — not sure which.

And now you said you associated Kelsier's post with the Mocsta thing? The logical conclusion for you to make is to assume his "good point" refers to the Kelsier/Holyflare thing but instead you now say you associated it it with the Mocsta thing which you said you didn't earlier.

uh oh...

I posted as I read the thread. You ask why I made my first post, and then quote the post I made after it (as I read more). Long story short, when I open up your filter I didn’t notice your comment of “not true tho” is refering to the HF thing.

The point I was making was that Keisler looked like he was trying to claim you made a read on mocsta and was agreeing with it, rather than making a read on mocsta on his own.

I am so confused

What is the order of events. You saw I had made a post saying rayn's idea was good (referring to his HF post) and that mocsta was scummy.

However you thought I was trying to say that rayn had made a point about mocsta being scum.

This was despite the conversation rayn and I had in the thread immediately after these posts where I clarified my point.
This was also after you reread rayn's filter which contains posts about hf and his conversation with me.
Furthermore you were after context about HF's read on me which is what rayn was talking about. I don't know how you missed it.

What did you think his "not true tho" comment is referring to?

Can you just break down what was going through your brain because I just want to call you scum here and be done with it.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

March 20 2018 10:02 GMT

#380

I'll let you respond and then drop this for now so the game can move on but I can't wrap my brain about this.

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 10:17 GMT

#387

On March 20 2018 19:12 ExO_ wrote:

Long Story short — your initial post made it look like you were trying to claim rayn made a point about Mocsta when he did it. Your followup post made it look like you were back pedalling on this idea. I didn’t read super closely because I was more concerned with calling you out for this than your defense of it.

Now you can believe me or you can think somehow this makes me scum — I think we’ve spent a lot of time and it’s stopped serving a good purpose.

As for my read on you now — I think you’ve seemed awfully concerned with making sure everyone is town reading you moreso than scum hunting, but it’s hard for me to scum read you based on the length of posts and amount you are putting in to understand situations. I don’t think you can be a D1 lynch.

fantastic

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

March 20 2018 10:19 GMT

#389

I don't get any scum read from ykl.

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 10:30 GMT

#392

On March 20 2018 19:12 ExO_ wrote:

As for my read on you now — I think you’ve seemed awfully concerned with making sure everyone is town reading you moreso than scum hunting, but it’s hard for me to scum read you based on the length of posts and amount you are putting in to understand situations. I don’t think you can be a D1 lynch.

As a prenote, i'm not harping on at you this is a brand new point.

Firstly, i'm not concerned with "everyone" town reading me there is no evidence for that until you provide some. If i question someone who has a scumread on me...do you think that is scummy behavior? You had your reason to scum read me completely discredited and you yourself have admitted is just wrong. Are you basing a scum lean on HF's read of me, why is his read good?

You have added this pointless qualifier where you try and give yourself a backdoor into lynching me on some other day. I can't be asked with this pseudo suspicious bullshit. Call me scum or don't say anything.

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 10:51 GMT

#395

On March 20 2018 19:36 Palmar wrote:
df's roleplaying is some of the worst I've ever seen.

yeh it's not good. I don't know what it means alignment wise. I feel that if you're town you just have fun as town whereas if you rolled mafia the second time in 3 games and you wanted to make things fun fun yourself/hide you would make a persona. I can't say it makes him town or mafia but if I had to pick I would say it is more scum sided.

In terms of actual bad stuff. He liked a post that exo had made which wasn't that good.

On March 20 2018 08:27 darthfoley wrote:

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Looks like this chap 'ere as a 'ead on his shoulders

I can understand exo's defence of this post but I don't like the post in general.

he also leaves exo off his list of town afterwards

On March 20 2018 12:45 darthfoley wrote:
Chester Campbell believes he dun found some good folk to confide in as he rids the streets of petty 'n big boss crime.

The likes of Vivax, Alakaslam Mocsta and Conversion seem like good blokes, eager to help the coppers

Chester is keeping a wary eye out for any bad hombres

gives the impression that he doesn't really care who his town circle is and just wants to throw some names out.
I'd lynch him and not just to stop the terrible RP.

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 10:52 GMT

#396

* "fun for yourself/hide"

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 11:16 GMT

#401

On March 20 2018 20:12 ExO_ wrote:

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This is the main quote I'm referring to. This post reads to me like you want to know my opinion of you so you can then either scum read me if I still scum read you, or town read me if I town read you.

And I'm not leaving myself a backdoor to come after you later. But I'm not committing to you be a firm town or firm scum at this point. I'm leaning town on you now based on your more recent posts -- however it's hard for me to shake my early impressions of you. I have a really bad history of tunneling based on early reads though and I'm aware of it, so I'm trying to improve my own play.

If I was concerned with people town reading me , then by your logic I should just be town reading you.

I find it interesting to see how people change their reads based on information available.

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 11:18 GMT

#403

On March 20 2018 20:07 Palmar wrote:
I didn't even really read his posts beyond the Chester Campbell stuff. It means nothing alignment-wise. It's just a decision from df to make himself intentionally difficult to read. That doesn't necessarily make him mafia, just makes him a bit of a dick.

Like the posts you just quoted could be posted as either alignment, and his motivation to post may both be that he wants to get something on the record (mafia) or that he just wants to establish his roleplay (no alignment information). Given that he has chosen to go with a roleplay, he may act like scum in the sense that he's posting just to post, because he's trying to show off his persona.

So yeah, I don't know what he is and I don't particularly care. If all the non-posters wake up and partake he's an excellent vigilante shot, but I have no real interest in trying to build a case on someone who's deliberately being difficult to read.

Yeh I guess that makes sense.

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 11:22 GMT

#406

On March 20 2018 20:16 KelsierSC wrote:

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If I was concerned with people town reading me , then by your logic I should just be town reading you.

I find it interesting to see how people change their reads based on information available.

never mind I misread.

I'll leave it for now

KelsierSC

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March 20 2018 11:39 GMT

#411

Palmar. It's confusing.

I think HF disagrees with NK's point that exo's read helps mafia if exo is town. Hf makes the point that it doesn't help mafia AT ALL.

I assume the good scum read is about the read of exo being scum for fake scum hunting.

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