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On March 28 2018 07:46 Tictock wrote:
Like come on Mocsta, we are wrong on Koshi. Fine GG.
We flip him as scum then we can talk about it tonight.
You said you were ready to throw in the towel earlier today and call it a draw. I suggested this last night as well.
Mafia thought they had this in the bag. They should have listened and killed me when I asked.
*shrug* I NOMINATE THIS FOR "FUNNIEST COMMENT AWARD 2018"
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On March 28 2018 07:44 darthfoley wrote:
so who's your revised mafia team? yeah, i dont know.
given up at this point.
i have potential problems with everyone left alive, and dunno if that makes them scummy or not.
based on lack on what appears to be mafia KP roles, i stick with disformation + koshi as both lying.
with there were no modkills, and mafia shot an unknown vet. it just pushes the game out WAY too long.
So
Scum1 = Koshi
Scum 2 = disformation
Scum3 = darthfoley
Scum4 = FF or Palmar. sticking with FF for this cycle.
As for fence-sitters
Palmar keeps floating in/out for me, so I could replace with fecalfeast as I can see him fadign away if being constantly pressured as town.
I really think moosy/rayn discussed 12hrs ago was town and town.
So that leaves coag and tictock
seal + still trying to solve the game.
Thats it folks
##Unvote
##Vote: koshi
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On March 28 2018 07:51 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2018 07:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
0% chance FF is scum he showed me his role pm Lol, yea FF is prob just town here. Or is scum and knows he is about to win. Only way he could make a joke right now. This was also a good post though... Show nested quote +On March 28 2018 07:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Df could very well be the last scum on my.list.
Why does this one post from.coag make you think a. That he is scum claiming his whole team as town and b. That this isnreason to vote df specifically So prob town. yeah i do agree. I thought in context that was a good post as well.
but thinking about it now, its probably more a curiosity question either alignment could make if intrigued how you can even form an opinion of coag lol.
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im eagerly waiting for 4 scum players to jump off onto tictock in 1min lol
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#3646
stop tryharding
game could be almost over.
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No vote jumps 
Ohhh oohhhh
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Palmar - Watcher
raynpelikoneet - 3-shot Jailkeeper
sicklucker - Backup Jailkeeper
disformation - Veteran
damn rayn, i wanted to lynch him so bad until that dialogue with moosy
sigh, that was nice by him.
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lol. so coag broke his seal. sigh
ahhh man, just got to cop this one on the chin.
i really should have stopped posting day2 onwards
was lost, and it didnt help get me back on track.
sigh.
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On March 28 2018 08:12 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2018 08:09 darthfoley wrote:
4 town modkills is really oof. Nothing Calix could do but... oof. Idk what would've happened without them. A lot of the mod-kills had decent odds of being mislynched, I think. Obviously the game wouldn't have been such a mafia-stomp without them but I don't think it would have suddenly made town get its act together. Agreed
but I think disfo & palmar would have been lynched.
still a lost game as you say, which is all that matters in the end.
thanks for hosting calix & skynx
and thanks for awesome vote tracking, especially EoD1
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On March 26 2018 07:16 Mocsta wrote:
rsoultin, i hate to muddy waters, but i dont understand the rayn hard town read either - for the drunken posting.
if anything thats a scum indicator (i.e. getting mad that town are unfoiling the mafia plans).. at least it reminded me of when i angry posted, last.
all i mean is, i would consider rayn a lynch option for the final slot. rsoultin, this is my only saving grace!! hahah
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On March 28 2018 08:14 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Oh well.
On a tangent darthfoley just because you don't call people a gay gypsy fuck doesn't mean you're an angel and exempt from being toxic. That's like saying you're going to heaven because you didn't kill someone lmao. The main problem I have with interacting with you and reading your interactions is how every post you make is either slightly derogatory or slightly sarcastic.
You don't need to call someone a dipshit to make them feel like shit and you're that exact type of person this is true
darthfoley is very passive aggressive, and says everything but the actual word.
you know the intent though
so its the same.
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Upon reflection this game makes me sad.
Outcome aside, it shows to me that under duress I have barely changed at all in so many years.
There are lots of things I could have done better this game; however, the most disappointing aspect of my play, personally, was the weakness of reads; leading to being called scummy. I do get it, and its on me to improve this, not others.
I play mafia because I enjoy working with teams to solve a larger problem at hand.
When half the game is not online when I am, or not giving me active feedback; my default coping mechanism is to inject more. Something I need to erradicate in both mafia and real-life.
I actually thought I had got there, which is why I want to verify through a few games this year.
The truth doth hurt
I dont really have feedback for anyone, given how poor my game was.
I think my strongest phase was the first 30hrs, which probably aligns with town in general given disformation was a lead wagon.
After that vet claim, the entire thread destabilised and never really recovered.
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On March 28 2018 11:18 darthfoley wrote:
I think I prefer 13 player games. 20 players just felt like way too much happening all at once tbh. It's a fun change up though The irony being that in many ways this was a 13 player game with an extra mafia!
4-5 players modkilled, and then a few heavy trollers and lurkers.
You can't take away from mafia that they stoked the flames really good.
So many town in this game were just slitting each others throats and fueling their own ego.
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On March 28 2018 10:27 Tictock wrote:
Mocsta, I think you played very well this game.
You were super easy to townread D1 I thought, like I hard defended you from HF I was so convinced you were Town.
It was after your claim that I started tinfoiling you being mafia fake claiming for glory. I honestly wanted to hold that back until I could just check you, but we got slammed into LyLo and I couldn't hold back. I have a bad habit of doing this type of tinfoil, but it usually keeps me invested and involved.
You honestly played the last phase better than me. You explored more alternative worlds and kept trying to sus things out. I was so obstinate and locked in due to thinking Dis was confirmed town to me and based so much out of that.
Game was weird and kinda stupid after all the mod-deaths. Me getting locked in the wrong direction that last day sealed the deal.
Honestly though Town did a pretty good job trying to pull this one off despite the odds.
If there is anything to be sad about it was that so many players dropped out, forgot to vote, forced themselves to be mod-killed. 20 player game sounded fun for the lols, but whats the point when this sorta shit happens. This is as much a blessing and curse as me being loose and fluid.
On paper, we should have balanced each others weaknesses and found scum.
Unfortunately, our trust was based more on PoE than actual (e..g ya tinfoil above) so this never came to fruition.
That is a shame.
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On March 28 2018 14:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta, i really felt like this game you called everyone who disagreed with you either bad or scum and refused to contribute with them until i said that on the last day (and still you didn't listen to me :p). I hope as a fact thats not true; so its a shame you felt that way.
I think day3 is a different story as its LYLO, and so many qusetion marks in general.
Im always willing to listen to what people say; but, my interpretation of what they are saying is heavily influenced by what I perceive their intention.
This is a messy way of saying I don't treat all facts the same way!
Its very hard to emulate this, and its certainly something I don't do as scum because it does put so much heat on you.
Like you + palmar ebbed in/out of being scummy to me all game; so kudos for changing post strat to suit.
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On March 28 2018 14:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2018 07:41 Mocsta wrote:On March 27 2018 07:16 darthfoley wrote:
If koshi is mafia, the game continues and My suspicion was correct
If koshi is town, the game is over. Win win mafia is a team game for both alignments. have correct suspicion, doesn't meet the game definition of winning. wasnt this already debated prior when damdred got lynched d1 with correct reads. you still need to convince people to lynch them - otherwise pointless. Thats why I will always have respect for marvellosity. There was this game he created a fake account years ago as fivetouch. as a complete nobody he got the entire town onside and lynched mafia day1. Very real crisis leadership. i dont think any of the players in this game could do that; many are relying on reputations due to "correct suspicions". The closest may actualy be Koshi, but for different reasons to fivetouch. Koshi as town *CAN* be very involving from what I have seen in 2018. Again, this is why he is scum this game. ciao. Also Mocsta, this post is very wrong. If i am completely honest here, while marvellosity is/was one of the best town players the only reason he is so good is because he cannot play as mafia. I have almost zero respect for people who can only play as one alignment, or well.. are only good as town because people naturally believe them as they are basically confirmed town, and for example Holyflare is on a completely different level because he can actually play as mafia and for that reason has to ACTUALLY work on convincing people as town when not confirmed. And still manages to lead. Its a subjective & I dont think we are talking about the same scenario whatsoever.
People might be predisposed to be cautious of HF; but there is still brand reputation which is what i was commenting about.
Leading a large game town without brand reputation is a different skill set then being generally proficient at mafia - one that is more applicable to working with people in real life.
HF is no doubt a great mafia player; both effective and influential. However, if his real job was to influence people; the tactics in mafia I dont believe are effective. At least not in my professional experience.
At least the aspect of peoples motives is similar between reality and mafia 
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On March 28 2018 14:28 rsoultin wrote:also ftr if i'd blocked the kp on me rather than tt, i would have retracted the koshi 100% scumread and just gone ham on palmar >> mostly cause not shiny could equal blue and rb is such a dumb claim buuuut shoulda woulda coulda that's easy to claim. the ham on palmar bit definitely woulda happened though  i'm clearly shite at crumbs. koshi got it i think <3 everyone else didn't?
u crumbed? dayam.
i wasnt going to look through 19 page filter for it! hahah
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