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On March 25 2018 11:22 darthfoley wrote:And Koshi is mafia not because he's been forgettable (indeed, he has). Rather, he's mafia because he has strategically refused to move the game forward during key points for town. Tell me if these quotes remind you of anyone in this game... Show nested quote +I am fine person to watch.
Just don't talk in the thread guys. Let them figure shit out. They are on the wrong persons and we only need to add our votes in the end and afk.
Don't further the game. Don't do it. You can only make mistakes. ding ding ding: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/whXRitDyx58HaThis is textbook Koshi scum play.
Lol >< that's all but a smoking gun
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On March 25 2018 11:26 Tictock wrote:Yea this progression on Conversion is weird, Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 08:47 Koshi wrote:On March 23 2018 08:44 Palmar wrote:
1. Mocsta is confirmed town for all intents and purposes. The chances of this being some stupid play by mafia are low enough that I'm not gonna worry about it for now.
2. We're not killing rsoultin.
I need to read filters but I'm fairly sure we're just killing something like noobking or maybe ticktock today. I have high hopes for you palmar. If you find time. Look into df, conversion and fefe. I am going to need help not lynching into those 3. First I need to see why they arent mafia before my brain opens up for others. And I understand all 3 are not mafia. Maybe only 1. Very maybe 2. Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 18:59 Koshi wrote:On March 23 2018 16:55 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah I don't disagree on nk, mocsta. I expected some night action analysis given his perception of how the game should be played and there wasn't any that i noticed?
As for conversion...he feels different than the game I was scum in. Like wasn't he trying to be a new and better conversion? Don't see that here at all. This I agree with. NK last post was incredible underwhelming. Conversion I dont know about atm. I might not lynch him based on TT his read on conv which I respect. Show nested quote +On March 25 2018 08:35 Koshi wrote:
Hahaha. Brutal.
Well. At this point I am interested how good my list will hold up. Been okish so far. Wrong on Conversion. But with all mid tier players getting murdered I am either quite right or very wrong. Koshi not even following his own track of thoughts. One thing for him to change his mind, but this looks more like he just doesn't care. How likely is it that both are Mafia? If so who might the +2 be? Rayn actually seems likely in this case, he has been confident Moosy is town, and I don't actually recall him talking about Koshi.
Nh. Well, actually he's gotten loads better at reading moosy. So the townread if moosy is scum is a point against rayn.
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Anyway it's 4:30 and we're getting up at 10 so...I need to stop. Gnite. Happy hunting.
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Well lol rayn is almost 100% town (I'm just going to keep on playing until/unless hosts decide theyre done with this.) Hopefully he can come back with a level head, sit down and read the game he's missed. Don't feel like fighting with him @.@ though it probably never comes to that.
Rayn, we have 7v4. Unless we have a medic/jk who pulls out one helluva save this game is probably already over.
Mocsta/df/tt are basically lock town for even bothering to try to solve the game at this point.
You are basically lock town for that...emotional display. Nicest way I can put it.
I doubt you're being wrong on me will matter cause I'll probably be dead after the night phase if game is even still going.
Help us with our town circle? What do you think of koshi? Moosy? Meta diving disinfo today, then I'll discuss you with him.
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Maybe 6v5 but i think then it would just already be end game cause that's probably impossible then.
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On March 25 2018 17:25 Mocsta wrote:
Oh my god
What if scum didnt believe disfo and shot him
No medic
Like.vig vet and tracker
Really think theres a 4th?
Then hosts are trolling us? Or we only have two nks coming in?
Or tt and rayn are just right and disinfo is scum fake-claiming.
\o/ i choose hope!
I like the odds of getting the whole scum team tonight. Only need to find the towny in dis/palmar/ff
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If coag is scum I'm fine losing to him breaking his town seal.
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On March 25 2018 17:52 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2018 17:43 rsoultin wrote:
If coag is scum I'm fine losing to him breaking his town seal. Lol agreed as far as im concerned lynch order is: koshi -> palmar then we are all dead anyways, and its up to the lurkers.
Need to read your stuff on palmar more closely. I'm such shit at reading him lol >< and I don't think I can confidently read ff ever. So I'm hoping one of palmar/disinfo just shots town rainbows or both are so obvious scum I don't have to worry about sussig out ff
Going to stop spamming now (trying to keep the energy up so town can come show themselves...really think investment is a HUGE towntell this phase even if town has every reason to feel discouraged)
I actually woke up happy because I think so many of the distractions have now been removed that the game is genuinely solvable for the first time. (At least for me >< Lol others have probably had better reads)
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On March 25 2018 18:03 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 09:07 Koshi wrote:
Well. I am not reading a lot of posts tbh.
I'll read your filter later df. Hopefully what you say is true.
Palmar seems like a friend to town. At least we think alike.
I have like 6 names I could lynch today. At best there is 3 mafia in them. 1 mafia is probably within my townier people so that is why my townier people need to democratically vote within the 6. Highest chance to hit mafia. Dont only advocate for your own lynch. Think globally. don't think hoshi did actually read df filter. at the very least there is no follow up. first mention of conv in his filter: Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 05:15 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2018 05:11 disformation wrote:
conv can still be scum, too. ##unvote
##vote conversionNot the worst idea and I'm not sure I'm the person he would want to sheep Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 05:14 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2018 05:00 disformation wrote:
yo koshi: regardless if you want to lynch me now or not:
say I was not an option, who would be your #2, don't recall you having a second sr. Yeah I don't have one. So I will join the majority. Hmm. Veteran.. Pff. Maybe. I am afk and will ninjavote later.
Sweet. Welcome. Agreed that koshi is definitely scum. Do you disagree with our town circle?
Df/mocsta/tt/rayn
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On March 25 2018 18:08 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2018 18:03 disformation wrote:On March 23 2018 09:07 Koshi wrote:
Well. I am not reading a lot of posts tbh.
I'll read your filter later df. Hopefully what you say is true.
Palmar seems like a friend to town. At least we think alike.
I have like 6 names I could lynch today. At best there is 3 mafia in them. 1 mafia is probably within my townier people so that is why my townier people need to democratically vote within the 6. Highest chance to hit mafia. Dont only advocate for your own lynch. Think globally. don't think hoshi did actually read df filter. at the very least there is no follow up. first mention of conv in his filter: On March 22 2018 05:15 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2018 05:11 disformation wrote:
conv can still be scum, too. ##unvote
##vote conversionNot the worst idea and I'm not sure I'm the person he would want to sheep On March 22 2018 05:14 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2018 05:00 disformation wrote:
yo koshi: regardless if you want to lynch me now or not:
say I was not an option, who would be your #2, don't recall you having a second sr. Yeah I don't have one. So I will join the majority. Hmm. Veteran.. Pff. Maybe. I am afk and will ninjavote later. Sweet. Welcome. Agreed that koshi is definitely scum. Do you disagree with our town circle? Df/mocsta/tt/rayn
Oh and coag. Knew my numbers were off lol ><
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Yeah probably >< Lol
If there's time I may just try to find a game where Damdred has explained his read on ff and see if I can run that against a base of his town/scum games and if I can reliably detect the difference.
Speaking of, do you remember such a game where it was explained, ff?
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Well it took all of two seconds to discover that reading disfo town for activity was retarded on my part \o/ 26 page filter, lynched day 6 in generic.
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On March 25 2018 21:44 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2018 21:28 rsoultin wrote:
Well it took all of two seconds to discover that reading disfo town for activity was retarded on my part \o/ 26 page filter, lynched day 6 in generic. ???
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/519746-generic-mini-mafia
His last scum game. I'm reviewing it now. Also got like a miiiilllion tabs open to try to notice patterns but this guy is a huge talker. Could take me awhile.
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On March 25 2018 22:21 disformation wrote:
reading ppl solely based on activity is seldom a good idea.
True. Unfortunately, I don't know what else you have going for you  I was reading your activity as investment. It clearly is not alignment indicative, though.
Meanwhile, I was reading TT and DF for organic shiny finding in their investment, which actually is a quite good metric -shrugs-
My gut says you just fake-claimed vet. You were very shiny when you replaced into my scum game @.@ and I totally forgot about that, probably because I pay less attention when I'm scum. You are not a very shiny player in this game. Which is probably the most unscientific way to describe a read ever, but I'm going to see if my gut instincts about your play here are reflected through your work of games \o/
You've also been quite unshiny since the flips. TT was shiny. DF was hella shiny. Rayn was shiny in his drunken OMG RSOUL SAID SOMETHING I CAN'T MAKE SENSE OF MUST BE 100% SCUM?!!!!! Mocsta is shiny. Even slam was adorably shiny lol ><
Koshi and Moosy aren't shiny at all. Palmar was pretty blaise, as well.
Coag gets a pass.
Want to know my theory? Scum just got a whopping 4 kills closer to winning this game and (if three kp) will win after this phase barring next-level night actions. Hellooooo, zero motivation. You're keeping bad company, my friend.
But I have 7-8 hours (I think) to confirm those suspicions if there's any meat there. And you have 7-8 hours to suddenly start gleaming like a Christmas tree. Good luck.
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On March 25 2018 22:53 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2018 22:41 Mocsta wrote:On March 25 2018 22:21 disformation wrote:
reading ppl solely based on activity is seldom a good idea. but u didnt say its bad in this instance... didn't think "disformation - level of involvedness" translates to "hits post button a lot".
It didn't precisely. It was about you poking into everything everyone was saying and 'double-checking' it on a very very slow day with very few people contributing. Now I think that was too low a threshold for you. My apologies for underestimating town disfo lol ><
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On February 08 2018 05:48 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 05:43 disformation wrote:On February 07 2018 21:29 Conversion wrote:
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.
Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.
@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
flagged for possible teammate interaction. aware you are both in thread and mderg isnt doing too hot? your waffles on mderg dont look too bad imo. i have more of an issue that you basically had no reads? like first 2 pages of your filter you only directly have a read on rsoultin then you add mderg and prpl to your scumpile. heavily implied strong tr on koshi though anecdote on that teammate interaction: i was once scum together with mderg (in onegu is the best host mafia part 2) and when i look at my filter that game, i see a lot of lines like: "Don't remember much of mderg, probably a bad sign. Need to look at this filter." "Prolly should look at kush again... and I nearly forgot to look at mdergs filter." "@mderg: has your view on grack and luna changed with the recent events? or still pro grack lynch and contra luna lynch?" soo... this might be super biased and slightly unfair, cause you are obviously not me... but my gut is calling you scum for that xD
Form his last town game, Vendee. This is gold.
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On March 25 2018 22:52 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2018 08:03 Calix wrote:
Night 2 ends on Sunday, Mar 25 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in . Friendly reminder of the current deadline for those of you who are affected by DST. Night ends in just over 9 hours from this post.
;o; Lex has us getting up at 5:30 tomorrow because he has an early, and I got maybe 4 hours...this is just mean ;o; Guess I'll just have to wake up to flips/endgame lol ><
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On March 25 2018 13:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2018 08:44 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah, off-the cuff gut, Palmar/Koshi.
Town koshi isn't shining through.
Palmar is playing on the weekend.
Slam might be the third.
Not sure on the fourth. FF can always be scum. Or just not. Cause yeah, how does anyone read FF? I'd advise against going for the low-hanging fruit. Put on y'all's big-boy pants, because if we just lynch players who always look like they could be scum, that's game unless we get the luck of the draw.
Will have to reread everything and see what looks different @.@
If you're town, DF, I need you to pull out all the stops. You and mocsta. If my world is in any way near the truth, we're going to have to do the heavy lifting. And I can't confidently say you're town here, DF. Make my life easier. Dont even care about the fact all reads here are not actually reads but some idk... just some mindless shouting. Then there is the fact that i am not "wanted to lead the town" and neither am i scum. I am definitely just a lurker or what? Tina fucked up. Murder scum.
While showing this to Lex I just realized...this post is probably one of the most adorable things you've ever written <3 Sorry I hurt your feelings. It's just, game is really hard when you realize Viva was the rightest town on D1 lol ><
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On March 25 2018 23:39 disformation wrote:meanwhile in actual moosy filter: Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 07:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:
seeing rels vote mocsta makes me want to kill rells now mmmm Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 13:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
to be honest i'm happy i don't have to worry about rels although i did town read him. And I normally am very good at soul reading rels. Glad to see that hasn't changed. not sure I quite follow. moosy was also jumping around a lot, but outside of the rels thing it imo makes sense in a moosy kinda way.
I have no earthly clue what you're trying to say here. Can you explain it like I'm five?
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On March 26 2018 00:12 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2018 23:43 rsoultin wrote:On March 25 2018 13:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 25 2018 08:44 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah, off-the cuff gut, Palmar/Koshi.
Town koshi isn't shining through.
Palmar is playing on the weekend.
Slam might be the third.
Not sure on the fourth. FF can always be scum. Or just not. Cause yeah, how does anyone read FF? I'd advise against going for the low-hanging fruit. Put on y'all's big-boy pants, because if we just lynch players who always look like they could be scum, that's game unless we get the luck of the draw.
Will have to reread everything and see what looks different @.@
If you're town, DF, I need you to pull out all the stops. You and mocsta. If my world is in any way near the truth, we're going to have to do the heavy lifting. And I can't confidently say you're town here, DF. Make my life easier. Dont even care about the fact all reads here are not actually reads but some idk... just some mindless shouting. Then there is the fact that i am not "wanted to lead the town" and neither am i scum. I am definitely just a lurker or what? Tina fucked up. Murder scum. While showing this to Lex I just realized...this post is probably one of the most adorable things you've ever written <3 Sorry I hurt your feelings. It's just, game is really hard when you realize Viva was the rightest town on D1 lol >< ??? Vivax was hard scum on exo and kelsier. Bith town?
I don't mean in his actual reads. I mean in his game sense. His actual reads were why I discounted his game sense. But apparently it said, 'hey, feels like normally strong town players are scum'. I'm almost 100% sure Koshi is scum. Palmar could easily be scum, too. That's good game sense.
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