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I need to recheck the vote a little closer, but this may increase DF's chances of being town given he wanted to lynch prp D1 before I blocked that like a chump. Depends on if there were other viable lynches at the time. Can't be assed to do that right now with less than 8 hours before Lex wakes me up coming in from his night shift, though. Toodles! | ||
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On March 09 2018 12:49 Fecalfeast wrote: Slam or you or kelsier but Was 19 hours ago I don't know slam's schedule but if he was that antsy where is he now? YousyDoosy because you seem the least town of the people who've actually posted and kelsier because most people seem town to me and we killed one afk scum already Like I'm beginning to warm up to the idea that you could be town. In part because you're one of the few people who responded to my mass claim idea and the silence around that seems to be a wait and see sort of silence. But what happened to your scumread on me? | ||
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On March 09 2018 11:17 MoosyDoosy wrote: In regards to mass claiming, I have no opinion because to be completely honest I haven't thought of the setup much at all other than that we essentially have a night vig shot. I think you're capable of forming an opinion. Now would be the time! | ||
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On March 09 2018 15:44 Fecalfeast wrote: I base my reads on how I'm feeling about a perspns posting at the time so now I don't feel you're scummy Lol, okay? So what is it that you don't like about moosy? | ||
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On March 09 2018 16:55 Holyflare wrote: Mass claiming is dumb. Just gives mafia a kill list that detracts from nk info. If we're about to lynch a medic just claim instead. I'd be more on board with this if we didn't have 3 town medics, which makes ccing impossible without a mass claim. Do you fundamentally disagree that shooting into claimed medics narrows down the fake claim (assuming a scum fake claim)? And if no fake claims, how does info from the 'night kills' when we get two more free vig shots and one save without a scum roleblocker (assuming shots on 3 medics 3 nights in a row) possibly outweigh removing 3 names from lynch consideration? We'd be looking for two scum in seven people rather than two in ten. I like those odds. Especially if even one of those medics is lynchbait. Like, if we can clear some lynch bait, and they're not in my top townreads (assuming my top townreads are correct) this game is practically solved. I really don't see how NK info outweighs this. Sometimes I find NK info helps, but usually I find it WIFOMy anyway. Three confirmed town vs. NK guesswork. Yeah I really, really think the mass claim is the best move for town here. | ||
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Though Noobking's post you quoted doesn't say anything about looking for inactive or easy lynches? He did that later D1. | ||
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-pokes- We really should have everyone on board (or most people) before everyone starts sounding off ^^; Thanks, though, lol | ||
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On March 09 2018 17:56 Holyflare wrote: And what if those medics are 3 top townies? Waste of time. Just play this game like a vt game with a vig. It's much easier and takes up less thread space. I think the potential for that is fairly low just by the laws of probability. | ||
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On February 19 2018 03:10 Holyflare wrote: Like lynching a split wagon and you get instant n1 information of what happened. You can say "but that's what happens if there is a vig" but it's not really because in that situation it's a one shot vig and that person is confirmed and on top of having that vig one of them can heal a top town person if they so choose. Then if none of the medics die (and they can claim and that's 3 confirmed townies(!!!)) there's another night of the same exact thing happening. Basically it's too many confirmed town + too much information given + too anti mafia imo. Yeah... You're skeezing me out now HF. | ||
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On March 09 2018 08:01 Holyflare wrote: I'm not medic lol So yeah, I thought early that you were using your medic claim to get reactions, thus your scumread on tube. My impression of your town play is that you also like to game mafia night actions, so I thought that this made it slightly more likely that your claim came from town (especially if you were not medic). Didn't like how you refused to answer my question while talking around it. I came into thread all but decided that a town HF would not be deliberately antagonizing me because lately as town you've been quick to try to understand when I start getting agitated and try to diffuse it. Then I got distracted by Viva, and Lex and I had to leave. By the time I got back you'd answered my question without further pressure from me, so I let it go, and even townread you a bit more for it because, as I said, I feel it's a town-tell for you to try not to agitate me lately when something you say sets me off. So when I saw your post here at beginning of day I wasn't surprised. But now I'm wondering why a town HF bothers to say this. Perhaps you can enlighten me. | ||
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On February 19 2018 07:20 Holyflare wrote: Nah, I think it's a not awful setup and people are correct that it's very very swingy if people don't plan around it but it's just not my type of game. I think any game that requires mafia to have some kind of strategy that involves competence and setting up fake claims is inevitably harder for mafia, especially when this forum contains people that are working and don't have time to fully spend on the game. If it helps I hate I'm a cop too  Yeah there's like nothing here where you ever say anything pre-game about a mass cc being a bad idea. And several things about favoring it. I am 100% willing to entertain the idea that I'm missing some downside to a mass claim. But your reasons don't make sense to me at all. That's why I went back to the pre-game talk I remember you being part of to see what your opinion was there. NK info over confirmed town. Doesn't make sense. All medics likely to be top town, so not worth the claims. Doesn't make sense. Tell me why you're not just mafia shitting your pants right now. | ||
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I was probably right about you antagonizing me from the start, lol >< | ||
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On March 09 2018 19:23 Holyflare wrote: I think mass claiming is a bad idea now. I've changed my mind. I don't think it's a good idea when there's quite literally 0 point to out our power roles. If df is a medic he has already outed and I don't want that potential nk information to be wasted because you couldn't find mafia without 2-3 more people claiming power roles. The chance of df being town is increased with the nk so I'd rather leave it to that. Confirmed town is the point. Less wiggle room for mafia is the point. At least three more nights if the game even lasts that long of being able to use our power roles is the point. What nk information are you even expecting to get that is better served by not mass claiming? | ||
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On March 09 2018 19:21 Holyflare wrote: Do you think I'm fucking retarded and just do the opposite of what I said pre-game as mafia? I think you haven't given me a single reason that makes sense for you to have changed your mind beyond receiving your role pm. | ||
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On February 19 2018 03:10 Holyflare wrote: Like lynching a split wagon and you get instant n1 information of what happened. You can say "but that's what happens if there is a vig" but it's not really because in that situation it's a one shot vig and that person is confirmed and on top of having that vig one of them can heal a top town person if they so choose. Then if none of the medics die (and they can claim and that's 3 confirmed townies(!!!)) there's another night of the same exact thing happening. Basically it's too many confirmed town + too much information given + too anti mafia imo. This is exactly a Day 2 mass claim. This game never lasts past Day 5. 10 today. 7 day 3. With no rb, 4 day 4 unless we have medics hold their saves to get a day 5 3-man lylo. | ||
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On March 09 2018 20:14 Holyflare wrote: That sounds absolutely like an issue on your end that you'd need to get over then. Lol I'd say it's entirely your issue if you can't present a good reason not to mass claim, I.e a good reason you changed your mind, I.e a good reason you're not just scum here. What information do you expect from the nks that would be better served by not mass claiming? | ||
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On March 09 2018 20:13 Holyflare wrote: Do we absolutely need confirmed town now when the game is going our way, we've lynched the only power role that can stop us and we have a few people to lynch into? No, I don't think we do. We lynch a scummy person today, Kelsier, then if he claims medic we have mass claiming to fall back onto tomorrow. I think mass claiming is a good idea just not on day 2. My pre-game posts also never allude to mass claiming day 2 either so that's not even a contradiction. It in fact never alludes to mass claiming. Just that we have 3 confirmed townies. This is just saying we can win without doing it. So? | ||
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On March 09 2018 20:52 Holyflare wrote: Darthfoley dying tonight as a claimed medic with no rb. Optimal nk 1. So? With a mass claim we get at most 1 fake claim. | ||
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