[M][N] Medic Mafia - Page 7

On March 12 2018 06:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:

btw eli5 stands for explain like I'm five i.e. explain like i'm five years old if you're confused about that. Vivax trying to kill me is a HARD left turn here that I want a good explanation for.

On March 12 2018 06:20 n00bKing wrote:

Hf should totally happen.

Kill HF > Kill Moosy > Kill Slam

If we can't get consensus on one of those, I would listen to an alternative plan of action, ahead of us all ganging up on Koshi or rsoul, because those ideas are ridiculous.

On March 12 2018 06:22 Vivax wrote:


???

If that's your attitude why not do it yourself?

On March 12 2018 06:53 rsoultin wrote:
Unless ff is the scum medic, or koshi is the mafia 'vt', any target but koshi tonight results in mylo tomorrow.

There is no other choice.

Unless ff returns, koshi is the vig shot.

On March 12 2018 06:47 n00bKing wrote:

DF, are we vigging Moosy or not? It obviously looks like Vivax has come around to the idea.

On March 11 2018 23:49 darthfoley wrote:
So something i've been sitting on for a while but didn't want to necessarily bring up is Vivax's scum meta.

I've played a few games with Vivax, albeit not recently, but I remember he is well known for being bad at scum. I also remember people saying in previous games "scum!Vivax can play decently for a day, at most two, but after that he becomes pretty obvious."

Why wouldn't you have scum!Vivax claim medic during the mass claim? It effectively takes 100% of the pressure off of him for the next 2 days, not allowing him to put his foot in his proverbial mouth. It's also a credible claim because he's been pretty townread day 1 so hey, why not?

I encourage you people to control + F Vivax's filter about prplhz. Yes, prplhz didn't really give anyone much to work with, but Vivax's interactions about prplhz boil down to this:

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This could be a chainsaw post, but not particularly the most salient point. Fwiw, he also chainsaws AMG (who was the first on prplhz) decently hard throughout the day.



Delicate null lean. It's also interesting that he claims prplhz took a similar stance as him in the AMG/TS discussion, but still calls him null. Why?



Out of nowhere, Vivax now has prplhz in his two man lynch possibilities.



This is not only terrible logic, but also very awkwardly worded. Idk, I just hate this post a lot. As soon as rsoultin takes Vivax up on his "prplhz or df" possibilities, Vivax immediately backs down and say "well rats, golly gee, I just don't have enough info to make a decision (despite the fact that I just talked about lynching into one of those two!) His main reason to vote TS is that he's trying to survive (NAI) other someone who hasn't voted??? Really? Prplhz was a viable lynch wagon with two votes (AMG, darthfoley) with about 50 minutes before deadline and Vivax was around. He even makes this post while prplhz has two votes on him.



Credit to him for being on board with the prplhz vigdoctor, but I question the overall importance of a roleblocker in a setup like this. The medic seems infinitely more important. Roleblocker only really matters if medics split their votes, which we had decided was NOT going to happen, or if there's two medics left. Prplhz was either gonna get lynched or vigi'd sooner or later. Might as well try to gain as much town cred from it as possible.



Back to being all mopey about not having alternatives. This is the second time he's literally talked about having no other alternatives. Idk but as town I rarely think in terms of "having alternatives." I'm aware that it's semantics, but I think it may point to an overall scum mindset who is by definition always trying to have alternatives.

In short, Vivax's play around prplhz and the EoD in general looks too careful from my POV.

On March 12 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
Darthfoley and moosy ars without a doubt in my mind town

On March 12 2018 07:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Meh it is what it is. I'll look into noobking again. If there is a world where both noobking and vivax are scum that would be fantastic but I don't know the setup stuff or likelihood of that

On March 12 2018 07:59 darthfoley wrote:
FF/n00b claimed to heal Koshi. He should die.

Vivax claimed to heal Moosy.

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