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rsoultin
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On March 07 2018 05:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: @rsoultin, would you rather lynch tube or anyone in your afk/low activity pool? Who would your first pick be and who would your second pick be? Vivax and Tube would be my main picks right now. And I'm not concerned which comes first, to be frank. I'm not going to discuss my Tube read right now. It's in progress  | ||
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On March 07 2018 05:42 Fecalfeast wrote: I feel like I'm doing what i want transparently isnwhat i mean. I don't. Sorry. | ||
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On March 07 2018 05:42 n00bKing wrote: Your prior thoughts on HF sounded like you were townleaning him. So why might you be open to lynching him before the lynchpool? Do you agree with whoever it was that said HF is the scum player who would be most likely to overcome the town-favored setup? Or...what? I don't get this. (maybe you just meant HF "first" before prp and not "first" before everyone?) Yes, first before prp. I'm obviously not lynching a townlean before my lynch pool, lol | ||
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But basically if y'all don't like that I'm narrowing a lynchpool D1 through townreads, and that my reads change with new info in the thread, you can suck it. I don't invent reads just to satisfy the masses. Toodles. | ||
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On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her. Most of this is feel based. Normally when I read rsoultin posts I'm thinking they're good points and agreeing with them because they line up with my thought process. But in this game it's like, again, she's on a completely different planet. Something I noticed really early on. + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2018 16:09 MoosyDoosy wrote: Huh. See this just shows how differently people approach the game than me. I thought he was towny because of this post. idk I'm not good at this game tho ? His reads came after mine. Like, really? The tunnel is real. | ||
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##vote: Vivax We need a counterwagon, if only to get discussion into the thread. Even if Moosy feels that I should be that counterwagon  It's actually a little flattering, after the initial frustration, that he thinks I'm that conniving a scum player. I think it's fair to say that a scum!rsoul does cater a bit to Damdred but I think that only extends to defending him? I can't actually remember because it's been too long. @Moosy...there was no reason for me to change my reads so that he would townread me when he was already townreading me for different reads. If you have any legitimate gripes that you'd like to discuss, let me know. There's very little that I can say other than I changed my reads. If you think those changes were unnatural, I can explain the reasons. If you think that changing reads in generaly is scummy: 1) That's simply wrong, and not just because you have my alignment wrong, and 2) Have fun? Cause yeah, my reads did change. Who are the other scum with me, then? | ||
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On March 07 2018 06:32 MoosyDoosy wrote: meh. I'm holding my vote until Damdred comes back and responds to my thoughts. But I am probably going to vote for Tubesock here. There aren't really any other convincing arguments for me other than him and my own suspicions on rsoultin. -pokes- Are you deadset on ignoring me? Cause it feels to me like you've decided I'm scum for WIFOM and having a read you didn't agree with early on and now you're just tuning me out. If that's how you plan to proceed, please let me know so that I can stop wasting posts attempting to clarify things for you. | ||
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On March 07 2018 02:56 Damdred wrote: It was more boring then I originally thought it would be, in that regard i'm slightly...disappointed. But Rsoultin is more than likely town, perhaps hard town in my mind at present. The way she read me seemed like a way she would do in town, and honestly even though I am not quite the player I was she would still like to interact with me then piling on early, also tone is pretty good and not pestering HF to get him to tilt is also a point in her favor. Never doubt this read my friends. Also AMG and Moosey are more than likely town in this situation. Both seem open, inquisitive and a good tone. Also Moosey I believe town read me early which I liked! (I like it when people come up with interesting reasons to townread someone as pro town ^_-, even if I could fake it as scum). I actually don't like FF at this point so far, his tone seemed a bit off earlier and sort of like he was just trying to post to post a bit? But it was still early and its just a lean. Tube I am not sure of, this slip I don't really buy and don't want to lynch him for that so far ehhhh. ^ That's a pretty standard town Damdred post. If you ignore his read on me (which I tend to do in general when trying to get reads off people) he's paying attention to what he wants to in the thread. The scum game we were just in, he only commented on the main talking points. But really it's mostly tone for me with Damdred anyway. I look for how he makes reads D1 and how he responds to people to figure his alignment out. | ||
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On March 07 2018 05:06 darthfoley wrote: I felt bad just peacing without saying anything because Moosy was like "yayyy another person exists!" but at the time I didn't feel like engaging with the thread at all. Personal reasons that I won't get into. I see where you're coming from though It's really almost DF's entire filter after returning that makes me not want to lynch him. But here is where I think a scum DF OMGUS's me. That's how his last scum game went. Four of us were scumreading him and magically made his scum list. | ||
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On March 07 2018 04:50 darthfoley wrote: He wouldn't know you were medic even if he were mafia. You're making this sound like TMI when it just isn't. There are 3 town medics??? Also this is just entirely how I feel about the medic thing. I don't think that this makes HF scum because he just likes these sorts of arguments. He made one on Damdred the last two games we were in together, for example, and was town in both. | ||
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TLDR - organic reads from Damdred in line with a normal D1 for him, plus easy tone earns him a cookie - DF just being a boss and poking into good corners, while responding in a way to a scumread that doesn't resemble my impression of his scum play outweighs any meh feels about his afking earlier Hopefully that clears things up for you. I think you're probably even more likely town for your read on me (sadly), so carry on. | ||
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On March 07 2018 07:58 Fecalfeast wrote: So in conclusion, I think I would vote either rsoultin or the person rsoultin is voting, vivax, because vivax afks as scum and I'd bus him asap if he was on my team. Inb4 rsoultin says she doesn't bus -flicks- First thought is this seems awfully self-aware. Second thought is this isnt unreasonable because obviously anyone would bus an afk vivax. (Not sure I would do so first unless the scum team were exactly vivax, tube and myself, but then again vivax could have asked to be bussed too, so whatever. Point is the thought process is fine.) Like I think your entire thought process is reasonable, if you think I'm just going after low-hanging fruit. But it just feels more antagonistic than it should to me. I'm not sure if a town FF is this taunting. Meh. Wish you'd talk about other things so I can decide where you sit outside of null. | ||
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On March 07 2018 15:51 n00bKing wrote: Meanwhile, Does anyone agree or disagree with rsoul's assessment that the silence from Vivax and Kelsier (and especially Vivax) is more alignment-indicative than it is for chaoser? Does anyone even know chaoser? I think it's also worth discussing whether any of those players are strong Town assets *when* they are Town. For example, let's say people generally agree that Vivax is more likely than the average player, to no-show a thread while Scum. If it just so happens that he had done it as Town this time, would we be shooting ourselves in the foot in a major way by mislynching him, and losing the services of Town Vivax, cuz maybe he was going to show up later and be a Scum-wrecking machine? Or is it big upside and only small downside? And then same question regarding our other 2 no-shows. It certainly was this way at one point, with the afking as scum. (And yes vivax can be a town asset for sure.) Though now I'm curious why HF doesn't apparently agree. It was a bit ago when vivax replaced into an 'unlynchable' scum slot because people wifomed incorrectly, and managed to get himself lynched (i think immediately even), and hf led the charge on that despite being the auhor of said incorrect WIFOM. I have one possible explanation. Maybe two. But I want to hear what HF says. Also what specifically bugs him about df so much to put him that low. DF seemed to suggest that my reason for townreading him was only fine because I don't know him so well so maybe I'm giving him too easy a pass, but I thought his posting was pretty good on his return. What are you seeing that I'm not hf? | ||
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On March 07 2018 17:51 MoosyDoosy wrote: oh shit it's a wild rsoultin Hi Moosy. I do have a question for you actually. Why are you waiting on Damdred? Cause obv your one vote won't kill me and can be changed. And I also don't see how his opinion fits into your world view? You seem by your narrative (sorry, but that's what it is) to believe that Damdred is both good at reading me but also that I'm playing to my town meta as scum specifically to fool him. So what information do you actually get out of his opinion? | ||
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I'm kind of in the same I like his tone but he's not really doing anything boat on tube as the rest of the thread. Don't think that his response makes him town AMG and I would have hoped for more, but if he's town looking at the same game I am I can see not having any scum reads to speak of lol >< I still think the pussy play of lynching a vivax is optimal here. | ||
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On March 07 2018 11:46 Holyflare wrote: Actually df I've reread your filter and I think you're below prplhz instead. Lots of holes and pointlessness imo. @HF more specifically, what did you mean by the bolded? Because I read that as you seeing things that don't line up. | ||
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On March 07 2018 18:14 MoosyDoosy wrote: This is a good question. The thing is, he still hasn't addressed what I've said about you so I still don't know what he thinks about it or if he's revised his thoughts on you. So who knows if his world view is actually similar to mine or not. This is also my way of baiting him to contribute more so I can also judge him more accurately since he has contributed very little. While tonally he's town for me there's not much substance to actually go off of. This is also something I normally do in general unless I'm trolling and voting for myself. I use someone more experienced(?) I guess is the word to ping my thoughts off of. I get that, I just don't get why Damdred's opinion specifically you feel should inform yours. Nevermind. While I was breaking down the if-thens I realized I was only looking at it from the perspective of his continuing to townread me, which should mean nothing to you since you think I'm playing him. But his scumreading me would reinforce your read so I guess his opinion would have value to you in that sense. It's a bit annoying that you can't see how I'm town here though, to be honest. While I can see this she had a couple different reads early game and we usually see the game the same way thought process (although I honestly don't remember that being true to the extent that you're putting weight in it), and I see that you like this they're trying to appear towny argument for calling people scum, so the thought process is likely true... I think I'm pretty clearly town this game. And I have no idea how to get you refocused onto helping me find scum when you seem determined to call me scum for having a different Damdred read and painting everything else scummy from that starting point. It does confuse me that you're waiting on Damdred though since in my mind nothing he says would convince you I was town anyway. | ||
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On March 07 2018 18:40 n00bKing wrote: Well, I guess Tubesock either left or "left" before he could answer. But I'm off to bed, so if anyone sees Tubesock tomorrow before I've made it back to the thread, please remind him of this question. Because we know that when he returned to the thread, it was without scumreads, and then he said this to Moosy: And the answer to those questions is...yes. But it didn't look to me like he actually *did* it, so check on his progress tomorrow. The more uncertainty there is about who will be the D1 lynch, the more value there is in getting Tubesock's answer about who he believes it *should* be. So the sooner it happens, the better. Fair. Gnite. | ||
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On March 07 2018 18:43 Holyflare wrote: Vivax can absolutely afk as any alignment. Like I said. It's bad to even push the theory he's mafia because of it. When did that change? | ||
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