EPTOn March 08 2018 20:49 rsoultin wrote:
-snorts-
Do you honestly think that quoting the things I saw and quoted as a bs scumread is somehow going to magically help me understand your point of view if you're town?
What the hell do you even find scummy about that?
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On March 08 2018 20:38 AMG wrote:
On March 08 2018 19:57 rsoultin wrote:
Sure, but usually I don't expect two different answers to the same question like the first no longer exists.
Perhaps. Could you explain your prp read to me like I'm two? Particularly your issue with his scumreading you while liking others' reasoning on your scumread.
On March 08 2018 19:04 AMG wrote:
Why do I only get to have one reason to town read someone?
Tube came back, did not do what I was expecting a scum Tube to do, and then continued to talk the same brand of nonsense he was before he disappeared. I got fed up with trying to have an actual conversation with him and realised that this isn't something you can fake as scum, ergo town and I was done speaking with him.
Now lets discuss how I scum hunt since you haven't seen the pattern. I see something off. I ping them with a (occasionally obnoxious) statement. They answer, that either satisfies me and I keep walking or I dig until I get a reaction i'm satisfied with. I was unable to finish that with prplhz since he never bloody came back. My reads are much more accurate through direct interaction, as opposed to observation, where I am notoriously shit (see the last 2-3 obs threads).
On March 08 2018 18:07 rsoultin wrote:
I'm asking you how you can reconcile:
1) Tube is town because he's not coming back with a scumread (i.e. not trying to save himself a la vivax)
and
2) Tube is town because nothing he says makes sense and I can't hold him to that standard.
You gave two separate narratives for your townread that do not appear to go together to me. Maybe I'm just a dunce and there's a connection I'm not seeing, but it almost seems like you forgot your reason.
On March 08 2018 08:56 AMG wrote:
I'm not quite sure what you're asking me to do here?
I don't know how I can further illustrate my thought process more than what i've already put into the thread without just repeating myself.
I know what it feels like when I've latched onto a scum, tubesock didn't feel like that, he felt like incoherent town.
You're welcome to think my reads are boring, I disagree, I was once upon a time known for making reads that fly in the face of thread sentiment (see tubesock read) and I do not apologize for that.
On March 08 2018 08:14 rsoultin wrote:
Yeah...
I'm actually warming up to Vivax's AMG read more.
So I was about to say that there is no way this lines up with the 'doesn't feel like scum' reaction to Tube not trying to make reads to save himself. But I think I'd rather ask you to reconcile those two, AMG, if you can.
The thing for me is while I liked some of his posting independently, the scumreads are pretty boring.
"You didn't talk to me when I had a different read" @tube
"You said people when I only am scumreading one person" "you say you'd normally agree with the reasoning for the tube lynch" (and be wrong) "but you take issue with me jumping on it for a different reason" @prp
There's like nothing whatsoever to these scumreads. By contrast, his townreads are fairly well-reasoned.
On March 08 2018 08:03 darthfoley wrote:
Meh I thought we got him considering he was lurking at deadline
Meh I thought we got him considering he was lurking at deadline
Yeah...
I'm actually warming up to Vivax's AMG read more.
On March 08 2018 07:16 AMG wrote:
I'm a single parent that works. Activity will not be consistent. And when I return to the thread with a point to make, only to see someone has already said it, I see no need to repeat what I'm saying.
And if you can't follow along with my thought process on why I've stepped away from my tubesock read, and, i was being nice about it up until this point, I'll absolutely spell it out for you: he's playing too stupid for me to expect logical and sensible responses and play from and I've gleaned that from our most recent conversation. Therefore I wont be calling him scum for not living up to the expectations that I have of him, I'm going to call him dumb town and move on to discussing other players.
On March 08 2018 06:56 Vivax wrote:
Except all of this happened not at once but you went from prickly->didn't fight your read->disengaged in your argumentation where you placed your vote at the final one after noobking did.
So I can see you as mafia just building on your previous posts reacting to what you wrote to create a tubesock scumread which was consistent with what you already wrote, especially cause of your decision on when to place the vote (when another one already did)
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I am actually open to the idea I'm wrong on either of you atm and after reading a bit of tube (since he talks about himself instead of finding mafia most of the time, but could be cause he's been in the defensive).
And cause I'm always hesitant to lynch possible assets D1 I'm checking if there might be other ones worth lynching over df.
Since you are so hung up on tube though I'd expect you to bring forward something more than what you already have and your read on him hasn't evolved much from that point onwards.
On March 08 2018 06:03 AMG wrote:
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You completely overlook the reason I take issue with tubesock which I've gone over two or three times now. His pricklyness catches my eye, as did him having a read that conflicted with mine, so I challenged his read. He refused to discuss anything with me at all, like he didn't give a shit about my alignment and had no drive to find out why I had a different opinion to him.
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You completely overlook the reason I take issue with tubesock which I've gone over two or three times now. His pricklyness catches my eye, as did him having a read that conflicted with mine, so I challenged his read. He refused to discuss anything with me at all, like he didn't give a shit about my alignment and had no drive to find out why I had a different opinion to him.
Except all of this happened not at once but you went from prickly->didn't fight your read->disengaged in your argumentation where you placed your vote at the final one after noobking did.
So I can see you as mafia just building on your previous posts reacting to what you wrote to create a tubesock scumread which was consistent with what you already wrote, especially cause of your decision on when to place the vote (when another one already did)
_____
I am actually open to the idea I'm wrong on either of you atm and after reading a bit of tube (since he talks about himself instead of finding mafia most of the time, but could be cause he's been in the defensive).
And cause I'm always hesitant to lynch possible assets D1 I'm checking if there might be other ones worth lynching over df.
Since you are so hung up on tube though I'd expect you to bring forward something more than what you already have and your read on him hasn't evolved much from that point onwards.
I'm a single parent that works. Activity will not be consistent. And when I return to the thread with a point to make, only to see someone has already said it, I see no need to repeat what I'm saying.
And if you can't follow along with my thought process on why I've stepped away from my tubesock read, and, i was being nice about it up until this point, I'll absolutely spell it out for you: he's playing too stupid for me to expect logical and sensible responses and play from and I've gleaned that from our most recent conversation. Therefore I wont be calling him scum for not living up to the expectations that I have of him, I'm going to call him dumb town and move on to discussing other players.
So I was about to say that there is no way this lines up with the 'doesn't feel like scum' reaction to Tube not trying to make reads to save himself. But I think I'd rather ask you to reconcile those two, AMG, if you can.
The thing for me is while I liked some of his posting independently, the scumreads are pretty boring.
"You didn't talk to me when I had a different read" @tube
"You said people when I only am scumreading one person" "you say you'd normally agree with the reasoning for the tube lynch" (and be wrong) "but you take issue with me jumping on it for a different reason" @prp
There's like nothing whatsoever to these scumreads. By contrast, his townreads are fairly well-reasoned.
I'm not quite sure what you're asking me to do here?
I don't know how I can further illustrate my thought process more than what i've already put into the thread without just repeating myself.
I know what it feels like when I've latched onto a scum, tubesock didn't feel like that, he felt like incoherent town.
You're welcome to think my reads are boring, I disagree, I was once upon a time known for making reads that fly in the face of thread sentiment (see tubesock read) and I do not apologize for that.
I'm asking you how you can reconcile:
1) Tube is town because he's not coming back with a scumread (i.e. not trying to save himself a la vivax)
and
2) Tube is town because nothing he says makes sense and I can't hold him to that standard.
You gave two separate narratives for your townread that do not appear to go together to me. Maybe I'm just a dunce and there's a connection I'm not seeing, but it almost seems like you forgot your reason.
Why do I only get to have one reason to town read someone?
Tube came back, did not do what I was expecting a scum Tube to do, and then continued to talk the same brand of nonsense he was before he disappeared. I got fed up with trying to have an actual conversation with him and realised that this isn't something you can fake as scum, ergo town and I was done speaking with him.
Now lets discuss how I scum hunt since you haven't seen the pattern. I see something off. I ping them with a (occasionally obnoxious) statement. They answer, that either satisfies me and I keep walking or I dig until I get a reaction i'm satisfied with. I was unable to finish that with prplhz since he never bloody came back. My reads are much more accurate through direct interaction, as opposed to observation, where I am notoriously shit (see the last 2-3 obs threads).
Sure, but usually I don't expect two different answers to the same question like the first no longer exists.
Perhaps. Could you explain your prp read to me like I'm two? Particularly your issue with his scumreading you while liking others' reasoning on your scumread.
On March 07 2018 12:36 AMG wrote:
Well, that's not happening. In case its not painfully obvious, the other person that's caught my interest today is prplhz. His attack on me was shit and I want to hear more out of him before I make my mind up for today.
Frankly, Tubesock just doesn't seem to be operating on a coherent wavelength to me. At all.
On March 07 2018 12:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, I didn't think you were grasping at straws to scum AMG, I'm thinking you're grasping at straws to scum Fecal or anyone you can to get in with alignment with AMG who's thrown you the first life rope.
On March 07 2018 12:06 Tubesock wrote:
I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.
Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me....
I asked AMG for clarification about his "Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there" to see if it was a scum read on Fecalfeast or Rsoultin since they are the only ones pushing the Vivax lynch. Turns out he was just speaking generally so it's not a breadcrumb read. LOL I wasn't grasping at straws to scum AMG.
Moosy, do you have any scum reads outside of me? Like I'm pretty sure I'm an easy scumread since the majority of the thread scums me....
Also, I didn't think you were grasping at straws to scum AMG, I'm thinking you're grasping at straws to scum Fecal or anyone you can to get in with alignment with AMG who's thrown you the first life rope.
Well, that's not happening. In case its not painfully obvious, the other person that's caught my interest today is prplhz. His attack on me was shit and I want to hear more out of him before I make my mind up for today.
Frankly, Tubesock just doesn't seem to be operating on a coherent wavelength to me. At all.
On March 07 2018 13:16 AMG wrote:
The more I read this post, the less I like it.
You think the Tubesock push is something you'd normally like, but then be wrong about... so you agree with the logic? And then I'm making excuses to be on that wagon, the one you would normally like?
If you'd normally like this kind of push, but you're opting out, what gives. Why are you going against your better judgement in this one?
On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.
AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.
AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.
The more I read this post, the less I like it.
You think the Tubesock push is something you'd normally like, but then be wrong about... so you agree with the logic? And then I'm making excuses to be on that wagon, the one you would normally like?
If you'd normally like this kind of push, but you're opting out, what gives. Why are you going against your better judgement in this one?
-snorts-
Do you honestly think that quoting the things I saw and quoted as a bs scumread is somehow going to magically help me understand your point of view if you're town?
What the hell do you even find scummy about that?
No I'm just getting damn sick of repeating myself.
If you can't follow along with my thought processes on those above posts then.. well I give up ?
