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AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
February 20 2018 02:22 GMT
#58
/in For the deadline alone
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
February 20 2018 07:07 GMT
#60
Boo. Had myself set to the wrong region. Thought id finally found an Aus friendly deadline
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 06 2018 03:34 GMT
#148
Hello.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 06 2018 04:59 GMT
#152
On March 06 2018 11:36 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 11:26 n00bKing wrote:
On March 06 2018 11:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I miss the presence of a rayn-like person plugging me in the butthole and telling me i suck at this game

I can start telling you that you suck at this game, if that'll help. You'll have to go somewhere else for the rest of that, though.
On March 06 2018 11:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm pretty sure Fecal was exaggerating by his D2 mass claim. Mass claiming is going to happen but I don't see it happening on D2 unless the game is really easy and we nail mafia really early

I dunno, the pre-game discussion sounds to me like people are talking about mass claiming early game and not late game. And now I can't ask them to clarify what they meant, because they either aren't in the game or I can no longer trust them to tell me the truth about it.

But speaking of the pre-game discussion, now that I've read through it again, it occurs to me that I don't even know for sure what the setup for the game IS.

We had this:
On February 19 2018 23:28 Calix wrote:
I'm leaning towards giving mafia another role since people seem to agree that makes the game easier for mafia.

and then this:
On February 19 2018 23:45 Calix wrote:
Two Roleblockers might be fine then. I'll see what other people think and if nobody has a serious problem with it then I'll change the Mafioso to a PR.

and then that was it. So was the setup changed? Am I allowed to ask the Narrator to tell us whether the setup changed? Because if the setup isn't as town-favored as it was initially, that will definitely change my strategy.


Didn't you just chastise me for talking about mass claiming strategy? And here you are talking about setup and strategy.

Your hypocrisy is delicious.


He did not chastise you at all. Why are you so pricky?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 06 2018 04:59 GMT
#153
Prickly... autocorrect or Freudian slip... you be the judge.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 06 2018 06:24 GMT
#158
Being prickly is scummy. You have to accept that people are going to ping you in this game. A prickly reaction usually comes from someone trying to hide something and reacting poorly.

I don't have an opinion for or against people discussing strategy or mass claiming. I'll be spending my calories focusing on the psychology of players as opposed to trying to game mechanics.

I don't find noobking scummy at all, I'm actually pretty certain he's town
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 06 2018 06:56 GMT
#163
On March 06 2018 15:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 15:24 AMG wrote:
Being prickly is scummy. You have to accept that people are going to ping you in this game. A prickly reaction usually comes from someone trying to hide something and reacting poorly.

I don't have an opinion for or against people discussing strategy or mass claiming. I'll be spending my calories focusing on the psychology of players as opposed to trying to game mechanics.

I don't find noobking scummy at all, I'm actually pretty certain he's town


You get a cookie.


I'm diabetic, are you trying to kill me!!
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 06 2018 07:45 GMT
#211
Tubesock, I implied you were mafia by your reaction and said someone you thought was scummy was almost certainly town.. you dont think either of those warrants further investigation or a response?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 06 2018 11:45 GMT
#250
On March 06 2018 18:01 n00bKing wrote:
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On March 06 2018 17:08 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 17:01 rsoultin wrote:
:/

I'm a bit sad I'm not getting more lynch Damdred support.

Like the pressure on tubesock though so I'm going to try not to sulk too obstructively.

I agree with AMG. It's almost like you don't care to get a read on someone with an opposite opinion of you, tubesock.

I don't think I'd get anything out of a conversation with AMG. Prickly players only scum? That's certainly not my experience at all so we don't have common ground there. And I was more interested in n00bking. Which I'm still deciding on. I still don't like hypocrisy. I think his nitpicking is his way of digging deep for more understanding so I think it's towny.

Ugh. I don't like any of that post. Being "more interested in n00bking" isn't a good reason to avoid any discussion with AMG. You can talk to 2 players at once, you know. Keeping a singular focus on one topic helps to keep you from needing to develop opinions on any other subject, and that's not good. And even if you thought you had "no common ground" with him about what makes players prickly (and even if you thought discussing the disagreement with him wouldn't help you determine whether he actually sees it differently, or is just pretending to) you could have just talked to him about something else instead. Like...you could have talked to him about the thing you were "more interested in." ME! Why not ask him why he has the townread on me? He might share something that changes your mind. Or you might share something that changes his. Having NO desire to discuss me with someone who takes the opposite opinion just makes it look like you already know my allegiance.

'splain yourself.

##Vote: Tubesock


Basically, this.

##Vote: Tubesock

Bottom line, i'm 1/13th of the game and you don't seem to care to engage me, I'd like to know why. And saying we disagree on one point is absolutely not an answer.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 06 2018 11:50 GMT
#251
On March 06 2018 20:18 prplhz wrote:
This whole Tubesock push seems like something I'd like, but be wrong about. I'm interested in seeing where it goes though.

AMG seems to be making excuses for scumreading people.


You think me making excuses to scum read people. What people? I have implied one person was scum and did not like their follow up. One person.

So you find my opinion on or attempt at discussion with Tubesock to be forced, or I don't believe what i'm saying when i'm saying it?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 06 2018 12:21 GMT
#252
On March 06 2018 18:06 rsoultin wrote:
I have a proposal.

There are three mafia. If people want to put a vote on tubesock that's fine.

But maybe it's time to give him some room to breathe and start poking in other corners.

Never voting for noob today, just for the record. My memory may be imperfect but this feels like the sort of thing a town noob finds compelling.


We agree on many things, apparently.

In that vein, lets discuss your Damdred read. I open his filter and I get a big old nothing.

What are you seeing?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 06 2018 20:50 GMT
#327
On March 06 2018 16:47 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 16:45 AMG wrote:
Tubesock, I implied you were mafia by your reaction and said someone you thought was scummy was almost certainly town.. you dont think either of those warrants further investigation or a response?


Nope.

I think the idea that only scum get salty is hilarious. You also don't seem to understand why I was "pricky". Do you understand what I didn't like about n00bking?


I'm trying to wrap my head around what you took issue with with n00bking prior to this post.

He says talking strategy is fine early, and he does so, but discussing a d2 mass claim is a discussion better had on day 2, I assume, because there are still things to unfold before day 2, I.e the lynch and the night actions.

I don't see hypocracy or inconsistency in what n00bking is saying.

Since this happened and there's been a pretty big pushback on your attempt to cast shade on him, you're now townreading him because he's too nitpicky with finer details, so he's now town.

Is that an accurate summation of your read progression on n00bking?

And now if noobking is town, where to from here, who is your next prime suspect?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 06 2018 21:04 GMT
#333
On March 07 2018 05:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
@Damdred and @noobking. What do you guys think about what I've said about rsoultin so far? Also anyone else that cares to contribute.


I don't get malice when I read rsoultins filter. It's care free and fun. I think there are absolutely better lynches to be had elsewhere, but I think your heart is in the right place.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 00:31 GMT
#365
It seems to easy to just hand wave everyone who's active as town and say the scum aren't posting anymore/at all. And yet when i look at each active poster in isolation, I don't see mafia, so by process of elimination i'm down to about 5-6 players with a total of less than 10 posts between them.

Luckily, we've been given some extra town-side KP to clean up the inactives, otherwise this could be painful and tedious.

AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 00:47 GMT
#366
I'm just going to think out loud for a post since everyone i'm interested in conversing with is not present.

If I were a medic, I would 100% be going offensive until 1 or more medics have flipped. The probability of friendly fire when trying to save townreads is too high. We have quite a solid town circle forming and I'm thinking the losses we suffer trying to organise medic saves into that group would far outweigh the potential saves. Additionally all mafia have to do is throw their medic into that mix, which is not even a medic at all, since they have no KP coming their way to defend against, their medic is entirely for sabotaging ours. Once a few of the medics (ideally the scum medic) have started flipping, organizing medics defensively becomes far more viable. I think cashing in our medic saves for a vig shot is too good of an opportunity to pass up, especially with the current game state.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 01:40 GMT
#378
On March 07 2018 10:22 Tubesock wrote:
I don't have any scum reads yet. eeewww

It'll probably end up killing me, but I think with Vivax we should wait for him to see if he does his 3 posts to remain "active" which would basically guarantee him being mafia (unless they're great posts) or he gets modkilled.

I won't be voting for rsoul, HF, prplz, moose, or Damdred.


You're advising a wait and see approach to the only counterwagon to yourself?

Interesting.

What do you like about prplhz filter?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 01:53 GMT
#381
You don't feel like mafia.

My vote is in the wrong place.

##Unvote
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 02:12 GMT
#387
On March 07 2018 10:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On March 07 2018 10:53 AMG wrote:
You don't feel like mafia.

My vote is in the wrong place.

##Unvote

What about what Tubesock said makes you think he's not Mafia?


Hes not squirming like mafia do. That and hes advocating a 'wait and see' approach on the only other wagon to himself.... which is a person who hasn't even posted yet. From that Ill extrapolate that they're either mafia together, or Tubesock isn't mafia. Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there.

I find his thought process on n00bking strange, but it feels town strange. I feel like hes getting hung up on something irrelevant, and that's something I associate with townies. Scum, on average, on the other hand get hung up on something relevant, but tiny, and then blow it out of proportion.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 02:19 GMT
#388
His grand return to the thread after copping heat is to return, declare hes got no scum reads, and hes aware that'll probably kill him. And stick to his guns that n00bking is doing scummy things, but isn't scum.

None of this seems calculated like mafia play at all.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 02:40 GMT
#392
On March 07 2018 11:35 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 11:12 AMG wrote:

Hes not squirming like mafia do. That and hes advocating a 'wait and see' approach on the only other wagon to himself.... which is a person who hasn't even posted yet. From that Ill extrapolate that they're either mafia together, or Tubesock isn't mafia. Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there.
.


Does this mean you think Fecalfeast is mafia? (I'm assuming not Rsoultin since you already towned her?) Or are you speaking generally?


What? This has nothing to do with FeFe. I am talking about you and Vivax.

I am speaking generally.

And I have no idea what Vivax alignment is, which is why i considered from both perspectives. Him being town and mafia and you being town and mafia.

My point is that you are declining to push the counterwagon to yourself, which is the self-preservation play. FeFe and rsoultin are not a factor in my read on you.

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