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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 06 2018 07:36 GMT
#201
On March 06 2018 16:33 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 16:30 Holyflare wrote:
On March 06 2018 16:27 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 08:47 Holyflare wrote:
I'm a medic.


Uhm...you called you a medic....


Yes and as noobking says someone said I can do that as either alignment or any role but you have specifically said I'm a medic. There's a big difference from saying what I said means nothing to saying what I said means I am medic but either alignment. It appears like you know I'm medic but then add a hedge on top as a "oh I don't know" to fit in. It's a weird thought process comparatively to hf can be anything.


Not sure how it's an alignment indicative thought process though? Given how I'd treat it as scum.

How would scum know if your claim were true or not?


A town thought process: hf claimed medic but it means absolutely nothing.

A mafia though process: hf claimed medic shit let's make a post about it since it's a main topic. Oh, he's town so telling the truth based on what he said pre-game. Oh, better throw in a hedge and call him mafia medic though.

Doesn't look right to me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 06 2018 07:38 GMT
#203
On March 06 2018 16:38 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 16:36 Holyflare wrote:
On March 06 2018 16:33 rsoultin wrote:
On March 06 2018 16:30 Holyflare wrote:
On March 06 2018 16:27 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 08:47 Holyflare wrote:
I'm a medic.


Uhm...you called you a medic....


Yes and as noobking says someone said I can do that as either alignment or any role but you have specifically said I'm a medic. There's a big difference from saying what I said means nothing to saying what I said means I am medic but either alignment. It appears like you know I'm medic but then add a hedge on top as a "oh I don't know" to fit in. It's a weird thought process comparatively to hf can be anything.


Not sure how it's an alignment indicative thought process though? Given how I'd treat it as scum.

How would scum know if your claim were true or not?


A town thought process: hf claimed medic but it means absolutely nothing.

A mafia though process: hf claimed medic shit let's make a post about it since it's a main topic. Oh, he's town so telling the truth based on what he said pre-game. Oh, better throw in a hedge and call him mafia medic though.

Doesn't look right to me.


To be fair, i only said it meant nothing in regards to your alignment. Not absolutely nothing as in no information whatsoever.


Yeah, you did the latter one :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 06 2018 07:39 GMT
#205
We'll see how it goes. Do some things tube.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 06 2018 07:40 GMT
#207
Mass claiming is dumb until late game. One medic claiming and coordinating kills through reads and other people is anti-dumb.

Enough about mass claiming.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 06 2018 07:51 GMT
#216
On March 06 2018 16:45 AMG wrote:
Tubesock, I implied you were mafia by your reaction and said someone you thought was scummy was almost certainly town.. you dont think either of those warrants further investigation or a response?


When did he do that?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 06 2018 07:58 GMT
#220
On March 06 2018 16:53 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 16:51 Holyflare wrote:
On March 06 2018 16:45 AMG wrote:
Tubesock, I implied you were mafia by your reaction and said someone you thought was scummy was almost certainly town.. you dont think either of those warrants further investigation or a response?


When did he do that?

Amg called tubesock's scumread town.


Oh that's what he meant. Carry on then.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 06 2018 16:58 GMT
#253
Good chat.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 01:04 GMT
#368
On March 07 2018 05:01 n00bKing wrote:
Thanks for those answers, rsoul.

HF's "good chat" post makes me uneasy. Should it not? You mentioned him as townpile after that post, so I'm assuming it didn't bother you. But since the time that he tried to shut down discussion of a D1 mass claim, he didn't really put forth anything else to discuss in its place. He's barely talked about anything but Tubesock. I'm guessing "good chat" means he's satisfied with the direction of the thread/voting at this stage, but that could be good for Town or bad for Town. lol

@Holyflare: No follow-up questions for your vote target? No reactions to anything else that's been said about your vote target in the meantime? No comments on anything else that's going on? (admittedly, not much else is going on...)

@Damdred: Have any strong impressions on HF? (just with regard to his allegiance, not with regard to whether he is/isn't "a medic" for one side or the other)


None at all really.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 01:33 GMT
#372
On March 07 2018 10:09 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
On March 07 2018 05:01 n00bKing wrote:
Thanks for those answers, rsoul.

HF's "good chat" post makes me uneasy. Should it not? You mentioned him as townpile after that post, so I'm assuming it didn't bother you. But since the time that he tried to shut down discussion of a D1 mass claim, he didn't really put forth anything else to discuss in its place. He's barely talked about anything but Tubesock. I'm guessing "good chat" means he's satisfied with the direction of the thread/voting at this stage, but that could be good for Town or bad for Town. lol

@Holyflare: No follow-up questions for your vote target? No reactions to anything else that's been said about your vote target in the meantime? No comments on anything else that's going on? (admittedly, not much else is going on...)

@Damdred: Have any strong impressions on HF? (just with regard to his allegiance, not with regard to whether he is/isn't "a medic" for one side or the other)


None at all really.


Who are you scumreading? or town reading?


amg/noob
rsoul

big gap of nothing

damdred
moosy

darthfoley

prplhz
tubesock

bunch of afkers and vivax being one of them means absolutely nothing


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 01:33 GMT
#374
On March 07 2018 10:22 Tubesock wrote:
I don't have any scum reads yet. eeewww

It'll probably end up killing me, but I think with Vivax we should wait for him to see if he does his 3 posts to remain "active" which would basically guarantee him being mafia (unless they're great posts) or he gets modkilled.

I won't be voting for rsoul, HF, prplz, moose, or Damdred.


why not me when all I've done is claim medic and effectively try and lynch you and afk?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 02:41 GMT
#394
On March 07 2018 11:37 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 10:33 Holyflare wrote:
On March 07 2018 10:09 darthfoley wrote:
On March 07 2018 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
On March 07 2018 05:01 n00bKing wrote:
Thanks for those answers, rsoul.

HF's "good chat" post makes me uneasy. Should it not? You mentioned him as townpile after that post, so I'm assuming it didn't bother you. But since the time that he tried to shut down discussion of a D1 mass claim, he didn't really put forth anything else to discuss in its place. He's barely talked about anything but Tubesock. I'm guessing "good chat" means he's satisfied with the direction of the thread/voting at this stage, but that could be good for Town or bad for Town. lol

@Holyflare: No follow-up questions for your vote target? No reactions to anything else that's been said about your vote target in the meantime? No comments on anything else that's going on? (admittedly, not much else is going on...)

@Damdred: Have any strong impressions on HF? (just with regard to his allegiance, not with regard to whether he is/isn't "a medic" for one side or the other)


None at all really.


Who are you scumreading? or town reading?


amg/noob
rsoul

big gap of nothing

damdred
moosy

darthfoley

prplhz
tubesock

bunch of afkers and vivax being one of them means absolutely nothing




So you agree on 3/4 my town reads but view me on the scummier side. interesting


I don't think you've done a single thing this game so yes. Don't care if you "share" the same reads 95% of the thread has already rehashed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 02:43 GMT
#395
On March 07 2018 11:40 Tubesock wrote:
Holyflare, why don't you like prplhz?


For the exact opposite reason you town read him. He calls you scummy and then says that probably makes you town. It bypasses any kind of discussion about what the exact points he would be scum reading you are and just waves it all away.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 02:46 GMT
#396
Actually df I've reread your filter and I think you're below prplhz instead. Lots of holes and pointlessness imo.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 03:09 GMT
#402
On March 07 2018 11:57 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 11:43 Holyflare wrote:
On March 07 2018 11:40 Tubesock wrote:
Holyflare, why don't you like prplhz?


For the exact opposite reason you town read him. He calls you scummy and then says that probably makes you town. It bypasses any kind of discussion about what the exact points he would be scum reading you are and just waves it all away.


Lets discuss.

What do you think of the last page out of Tubesock. Do you still think he is mafia?

Would you be interested in lynching prplhz today over Tubesock?

list
I am fine with lynching any of the bottom of my list (now including df). If I really have to comment on Tube's posts then I'll just say I like the tone of his new posts way better. They're open, calm and collecte. I dislike the content entirely. It's just a bit too hollow for me. Talks about claims, says he town reads a few people. Really non committal stuff.

The counter wagon points you raised are also pretty irrelevant when he only got like 3 votes and there's a wholw day left.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 09:43 GMT
#458
On March 07 2018 15:51 n00bKing wrote:
Meanwhile,

Does anyone agree or disagree with rsoul's assessment that the silence from Vivax and Kelsier (and especially Vivax) is more alignment-indicative than it is for chaoser? Does anyone even know chaoser?

I think it's also worth discussing whether any of those players are strong Town assets *when* they are Town. For example, let's say people generally agree that Vivax is more likely than the average player, to no-show a thread while Scum. If it just so happens that he had done it as Town this time, would we be shooting ourselves in the foot in a major way by mislynching him, and losing the services of Town Vivax, cuz maybe he was going to show up later and be a Scum-wrecking machine? Or is it big upside and only small downside? And then same question regarding our other 2 no-shows.


Vivax can absolutely afk as any alignment. Like I said. It's bad to even push the theory he's mafia because of it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 09:47 GMT
#461
Forever ago? I've lynched him as town for those exact same reasons. Also this tube shit is tedious as fuck.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 09:57 GMT
#462
If he has some meej attempt to have activity later then he might be mafia. Flat afking doesn't mean anything though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 10:34 GMT
#466
it's a descending town order with afks being in a different plane of existence
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 10:57 GMT
#469
Yeah, it's really not too complex lol.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 07 2018 11:16 GMT
#474
There is no null line. Everyone is something.
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