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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:10 GMT
#1644
On March 12 2018 08:09 Vivax wrote:
Why did they shoot into the VTs though?


So it's not 1 in 3 to find scum I imagine.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:11 GMT
#1652
On March 12 2018 08:10 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
Now I just need to get good lol >< DF is also confirmed town barring extreme crazy scum plays when they could have just taken it down to 4v2. Scum doesn't claim that prior to flip unless they hold their shot and know there won't be any nk.

"Mafia cannot hold their shot"


\o/ Sweet. Now there's 8 of us and we're looking for 2 scum in 6.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:12 GMT
#1656
On March 12 2018 08:11 Vivax wrote:
For all we know they can have shot moosy as well.

Really don't like how rsoultin and df try to quickly pull out the confirmed town card


This is pretty convoluted.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:14 GMT
#1661
On March 12 2018 08:11 darthfoley wrote:
Vivax is confirmed mafia


I agree that he certainly seems to be mafia and can get behind a lynch, but how does this confirm him mafia?

Actually...nvm I'm an idiot. A mafia doc should be double-stacking with viva even if claiming a koshi shot for the double kill, unless moosy is mafia.

So at least one of moosy and Vivax must be mafia.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:16 GMT
#1663
On March 12 2018 08:13 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 08:11 rsoultin wrote:
On March 12 2018 08:10 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 08:09 rsoultin wrote:
Now I just need to get good lol >< DF is also confirmed town barring extreme crazy scum plays when they could have just taken it down to 4v2. Scum doesn't claim that prior to flip unless they hold their shot and know there won't be any nk.

"Mafia cannot hold their shot"


\o/ Sweet. Now there's 8 of us and we're looking for 2 scum in 6.

Ohhhh....I just realized they could attack Koshi though. That is effectively the same as holding their shot.


Also true. So I guess it's not 100% confirmed that df is town, but still seems strange that they'd go for one kill instead of two.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:19 GMT
#1669
##vote: Vivax

People will have to admit that at least some of my reads were good this game as long as Moosy isn't scum and that's why he didn't die. I like that
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:22 GMT
#1672
On March 12 2018 08:19 Vivax wrote:
What is this confirmed mafia shit I keep reading about me. There is no such thing as confirmed when it's clearly wrong, So tell me that reasoning so I can walk you to the mistake.

moosy, rso, hf, slam are the remaining vt claims with 1 mafia and you better have a good reason to lynch into medics first.


Then if you're town you should probably come up with how this happens, don't you think?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:25 GMT
#1675
DF claimed to save me before the day phase, which significantly decreases the chances he's mafia making a play. That would have to mean mafia deliberately chose to go for just one kill in koshi.

And if he's scum hoping to skate by to victory off madplayz, he shouldn't be lynching into medics knowing they'll flip town anyway. It's not a scenario I'm going to entertain.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:26 GMT
#1677
On March 12 2018 08:23 Holyflare wrote:
There are actually variables where vivax isn't mafia but his shenanigans at deadline heavily suggest otherwise.


I agree but frankly I'm not giving Vivax anything more to help him wiggle out. If he's town it's on him to figure it out himself.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:28 GMT
#1682
I'm just making abundantly clear why that's practically impossible.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:30 GMT
#1685
On March 12 2018 08:28 rsoultin wrote:
I'm just making abundantly clear why that's practically impossible.


Also thinking through scenarios in my head tbf. Have a bad habit of posting too much of my thought process.

Anyway, thanks df. I'm out for the night.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:33 GMT
#1687
Who did you heal viva?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:39 GMT
#1690
On March 12 2018 08:37 Vivax wrote:
If you exclude possible scum powerplays you can take out rsoultin and lynch into Slam/HF/Moosy today for 1 guaranteed mafia.

It's obviously Moosy cause FF obviously is mafia. Cause it's bullshit that FF pretends to not have been around during EoD when he was around during EoD 1.

And with FFs assumption that I was healing moosy and Koshi was dead man walking, he chose to just kill Koshi when he could have killed Moosy on top of him, but they are teammates.

If I and DF actually followed through with rsoultins plan to lump us all together, then we'd sit at zero information. Thanks rsoultin.


Don't be mean.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:41 GMT
#1693
See the thing is, Viva sitting on Moosy as scum doesn't make much sense unless they're scum together. And the buss doesn't make much more sense, either.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:43 GMT
#1696
On March 12 2018 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
To be really honest I think the best play here is to not lynch vivax.

We kill into the VTs (slam) and then we get ff/df to heal vivax, nk to heal rsoul and vivax to heal df.


You do realize that if it's NK that practically confirms Moosy scum.

Only FF could theoretically (if mafia medic was the one to claim medic) have not targeted a town Moosy.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:45 GMT
#1700
On March 12 2018 08:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 08:41 rsoultin wrote:
See the thing is, Viva sitting on Moosy as scum doesn't make much sense unless they're scum together. And the buss doesn't make much more sense, either.


You don't know if I was sitting on Moosy though. I could have been doccing anyone while claiming to have been on moosy and given the blame to whoever else was claiming to heal him with me.

I don't know where your town bias towards me is coming from here.


Pardon?

I'm not an idiot that you could have lied, but your 'reads' are based on you healing Moosy which makes no sense if you're town actually trying to figure out who scum is.

So what is your point?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:47 GMT
#1702
On March 12 2018 08:45 Vivax wrote:
If I had been scum I'd have just claimed to heal Koshi and healed Koshi, knowing he was town.

Yeah okay, wifom plays aside this is where the town bias could be coming from.

I also know why you aren't able to see why I thought going for moosy was good since you don't know my alignment.


I think you don't get that I'm saying that the chances are actually not that high that you're scum here @.@ Because otherwise I don't understand what you're arguing about.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:47 GMT
#1704
On March 12 2018 08:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 08:43 rsoultin wrote:
On March 12 2018 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
To be really honest I think the best play here is to not lynch vivax.

We kill into the VTs (slam) and then we get ff/df to heal vivax, nk to heal rsoul and vivax to heal df.


You do realize that if it's NK that practically confirms Moosy scum.

Only FF could theoretically (if mafia medic was the one to claim medic) have not targeted a town Moosy.


Don't see how but ok.


Why would scum not take the 3 kills here? NK was here to double stack. He didn't. Thus, if he's scum, that practically confirms Moosy scum, doesn't it?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 11 2018 23:54 GMT
#1706
On March 12 2018 08:49 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 08:47 rsoultin wrote:
On March 12 2018 08:46 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 08:43 rsoultin wrote:
On March 12 2018 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
To be really honest I think the best play here is to not lynch vivax.

We kill into the VTs (slam) and then we get ff/df to heal vivax, nk to heal rsoul and vivax to heal df.


You do realize that if it's NK that practically confirms Moosy scum.

Only FF could theoretically (if mafia medic was the one to claim medic) have not targeted a town Moosy.


Don't see how but ok.


Why would scum not take the 3 kills here? NK was here to double stack. He didn't. Thus, if he's scum, that practically confirms Moosy scum, doesn't it?


No? They could have been wary about saying they are on koshi and koshi not dying. They could have thought vivax was lying if vivax is town. They could have been ff and afk. They could have been any amount of things tbh.

Talk about my nk plan a bit. Any holes in it?


This makes no sense if they think that two town medics are on koshi.

And I just said if NK is mafia. If FF is it doesn't necessarily mean anything.

My main point was that moosy should not be excluded from consideration as scum, especially if you still have suspicions of NK.

Your nk plan makes sense on the surface but I think I'd rather sleep on it because that's a lot of iterations for sleepy Tina brain to work through.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 12 2018 00:04 GMT
#1709
On March 12 2018 08:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 08:39 Holyflare wrote:
To be really honest I think the best play here is to not lynch vivax.

We kill into the VTs (slam) and then we get ff/df to heal vivax, nk to heal rsoul and vivax to heal df.


With this plan we can confirm all the medics and keep two basically confirmed town alive right?

Df basically confirmed town. If vivax does not die ff is mafia confirmed.

If rsoul or df die mafia is confirmed.

If vivax dies and rsoul and df stay alive we still have 2 confirmed alive which is great.


Slightly more complex than what you wrote here, but yeah I think this works.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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