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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 21:19 GMT
#1528
On March 12 2018 06:09 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:53 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:50 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:49 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:40 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
A full vt game is the most perfect game you can get you pleb. Who gives a shit if they kill rsoul and nobody else? That's just gravy.

And what is "most perfect" supposed to mean?

The game I want to play and should have been hosted instead of this travesty.

Long as you admit it doesn't mean "most town-favored." Lots of setups are more town-favored than a full vanilla game. Like THIS one. ESPECIALLY if we follow the plan from the mass claim. So stop trying to turn THIS game into a full vanilla game, instead of one that favors the town. I'm NOT stupid.


Semantics
Semantics
Semantics

Come to a unanimous decision.

Pointing out the FACT that you are actively trying to reduce the town's win % is NOT semantics.


You have a chip on your shoulder and you're arguing with your mafia read. If I am mafia it is my exact goal to find the most favorable setup for mafia to win. I think not getting people killed and maximising that ability should be my ultimate goal. None of this factors into anything you say. You literally just spent three pages quoting my posts and contradicting what they say just to say "oh that's not the MOST town favoured it's what favours you the most!" Not once did you call me mafia for pushing this mafia strategy or anything. It is in fact semantics you are arguing. The minutiae about a plan and correcting it instead of using it as ammo to further your case is what makes me think you're very much mafia.

Of course I'm arguing with my mafia read. I'm trying to keep anyone else from listening to you, and I'm trying to COORDINATE the medics into KILLING YOU. Defeating your arguments is how that process goes. Have you played this game before?

Not once did I call you mafia for pushing this mafia strategy? I've called you mafia for it NON-STOP. What are you even talking about?
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
At the end of the day I say we should nk slam and df agrees and you just go "Fine, let's nk slam. It's not optimal but I'll do it." THIS IS A KILL THAT I JUST PROPOSED AND YOU ARE FINE JUMPING ON IT

Such a load of bs. I'm NOT fine jumping on it, but I've consistently maintained that splitting the kills is not optimal and that the medics should coordinate. I've said that every step of the way. If Slam is the best I could get, that's still better than splitting the kills. We can afford to be wrong, thanks to the leniency gained from the mass claim YOU opposed, and the resulting plan that YOU oppose. It wasn't YOUR idea to kill slam, DF proposed it long before you ever did. Why can you not even make a single post without saying something that is verifiably false?


Df and noobking healing hf.

Vivax and ff healing koshi.

None of that looks like df proposing a unanimous kill on slam I'm afraid.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 21:23 GMT
#1536
I think moosy is a bad kill and vivax looks bad proposing it.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 21:38 GMT
#1555
On March 12 2018 06:26 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 06:19 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 06:09 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:53 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:50 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:49 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:40 n00bKing wrote:
On March 12 2018 05:35 Holyflare wrote:
A full vt game is the most perfect game you can get you pleb. Who gives a shit if they kill rsoul and nobody else? That's just gravy.

And what is "most perfect" supposed to mean?

The game I want to play and should have been hosted instead of this travesty.

Long as you admit it doesn't mean "most town-favored." Lots of setups are more town-favored than a full vanilla game. Like THIS one. ESPECIALLY if we follow the plan from the mass claim. So stop trying to turn THIS game into a full vanilla game, instead of one that favors the town. I'm NOT stupid.


Semantics
Semantics
Semantics

Come to a unanimous decision.

Pointing out the FACT that you are actively trying to reduce the town's win % is NOT semantics.


You have a chip on your shoulder and you're arguing with your mafia read. If I am mafia it is my exact goal to find the most favorable setup for mafia to win. I think not getting people killed and maximising that ability should be my ultimate goal. None of this factors into anything you say. You literally just spent three pages quoting my posts and contradicting what they say just to say "oh that's not the MOST town favoured it's what favours you the most!" Not once did you call me mafia for pushing this mafia strategy or anything. It is in fact semantics you are arguing. The minutiae about a plan and correcting it instead of using it as ammo to further your case is what makes me think you're very much mafia.

Of course I'm arguing with my mafia read. I'm trying to keep anyone else from listening to you, and I'm trying to COORDINATE the medics into KILLING YOU. Defeating your arguments is how that process goes. Have you played this game before?

Not once did I call you mafia for pushing this mafia strategy? I've called you mafia for it NON-STOP. What are you even talking about?
On March 12 2018 05:59 Holyflare wrote:
At the end of the day I say we should nk slam and df agrees and you just go "Fine, let's nk slam. It's not optimal but I'll do it." THIS IS A KILL THAT I JUST PROPOSED AND YOU ARE FINE JUMPING ON IT

Such a load of bs. I'm NOT fine jumping on it, but I've consistently maintained that splitting the kills is not optimal and that the medics should coordinate. I've said that every step of the way. If Slam is the best I could get, that's still better than splitting the kills. We can afford to be wrong, thanks to the leniency gained from the mass claim YOU opposed, and the resulting plan that YOU oppose. It wasn't YOUR idea to kill slam, DF proposed it long before you ever did. Why can you not even make a single post without saying something that is verifiably false?


Df and noobking healing hf.

Vivax and ff healing koshi.

None of that looks like df proposing a unanimous kill on slam I'm afraid.

lol, DF has been talking about killing slam since the phase STARTED. His FIRST post in N2 says he's fine vig'ing Slam tonight.


S e m a n t i c s.

He was not wanting to kill slam when it called for a consolidation until now. So the FACT still stands that a consolidation onto slam did not attempt to occur until I suggested it and he agreed to always wanting it and people were fine for it. Therefore I started the unanimous decision. Now you are fine wanting to nk who I wanted!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 21:43 GMT
#1559
Bahahahahahahahahahhahahaha
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 22:07 GMT
#1579
Darthfoley and moosy ars without a doubt in my mind town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 22:07 GMT
#1581
On March 12 2018 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
We can just yolo onto who we think is scum anyway and say fuck the risk, but not if vivax is going to be obstinate.

If it were just me I'd play it safe because I don't know who the scum is. Some of the others of you seem more convinced. I think I'd still prefer HF, and I know Vivax has dug in his heels against an HF shot.

I'd say that vivax forcing a split shot is at best anti-town, and at worst a deliberate attempt to cause confusion and get town to spread out over multiple targets. In terms of yolo shots, I might actually prefer a shot on him if he refuses to set aside his stubborness. Definitely would regardless if not for the fact that it would be even more damaging to wrongly shot a town medic than a vt.


You having a fucking laugh?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 22:30 GMT
#1596
On March 12 2018 07:10 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
On March 12 2018 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
We can just yolo onto who we think is scum anyway and say fuck the risk, but not if vivax is going to be obstinate.

If it were just me I'd play it safe because I don't know who the scum is. Some of the others of you seem more convinced. I think I'd still prefer HF, and I know Vivax has dug in his heels against an HF shot.

I'd say that vivax forcing a split shot is at best anti-town, and at worst a deliberate attempt to cause confusion and get town to spread out over multiple targets. In terms of yolo shots, I might actually prefer a shot on him if he refuses to set aside his stubborness. Definitely would regardless if not for the fact that it would be even more damaging to wrongly shot a town medic than a vt.


You having a fucking laugh?


-shrugs- I'm sorry if I'm wrong, especially considering I'm having the worst time this game finding who the scum is in the VTs and even the ones that I feel are town are for reasons that are laughably weak even to me.

That's why I said that I would just play it safe and vig koshi even if I really don't expect him to flip scum. I know my limits.

But it doesn't change the fact that, gun to my head, I think you're the most likely non-claim to flip scum here.


There's literally million people above me it could be.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 22:32 GMT
#1597
Like there's quite literally koshi posting nothing but setup and inaccurate statements, there's slam jumping back and forth between opportune targets on noob and me but not quite really saying anything etc etc.

I don't think it's good enough to say you're having a hard time but also saying I'm mafia while doing absolutely nothing at all to figure me out. That's just bad, not "a hard time".

What makes me mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 22:39 GMT
#1604
On March 12 2018 07:15 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 07:07 Holyflare wrote:
Darthfoley and moosy ars without a doubt in my mind town


why? and what do you make of rsoultin?


I think the way moosy reacted is increasingly towny. It felt natural and omgus-y and still tried to give information despite being potentially dead.

Your reaction is pretty much the same at a "wasted" vivax action etc.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 22:40 GMT
#1607
You're dead mate. Shouldn't have played so shit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 22:45 GMT
#1614
On March 12 2018 07:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
Or I got played by hf


.??? I said to heal slam
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 22:55 GMT
#1623
Because you've said to lynch myself or vivax all game and called me town because "I'm an annoying shit who you want to murder" but still said to lynch me.

Perhaps.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:01 GMT
#1628
I like it df gj
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:10 GMT
#1643
On March 12 2018 08:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think the Koshi lynch actually confirms Vivax is scum but not because of his reads because I have my doubts he even read properly


Hah it does!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:11 GMT
#1651
##vote vivax

Living that confirmed mafia life.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:14 GMT
#1660
And is also fucking retarded?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:17 GMT
#1666
On March 12 2018 08:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Alright I'm going to go get food and take a break. I want all of ya'll to know that it was me who sniffed out the bullshit in the fast one Vivax tried to pull though.


And it was me that called you town all this time. Never forget.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:23 GMT
#1673
There are actually variables where vivax isn't mafia but his shenanigans at deadline heavily suggest otherwise.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:26 GMT
#1678
Nobody is saying df is mafia lol?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 11 2018 23:27 GMT
#1679
On March 12 2018 08:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2018 08:23 Holyflare wrote:
There are actually variables where vivax isn't mafia but his shenanigans at deadline heavily suggest otherwise.


Shenanigans? I formed a scumread and tried to kill it.

Explain what the shenanigans are.


The fact we agreed to do a unanimous nk and you bailed at the last second to cause the most confusion on a terrible read. Much like d1 tbh.
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