EPTOn February 07 2018 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
I don't particularly understand but we vote martyrs in this here town.
whose the martyr?I don't particularly understand but we vote martyrs in this here town.
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Mocsta
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Koshi
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On February 07 2018 23:12 rsoultin wrote: Sorry if you're town, Ian. I'm just done. Calling me scum and shooting me multiple exclamation point question mark shouty posts is one thing. Claiming I'm just filling my filter when I'm trying to leave a post flip legacy is another. Well, it's there. I'm done. I don't know if I'm right or not but whatever. You are not going to get lynched so just breath and try again. | ||
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prplhz
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On February 07 2018 19:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: this is a 100% mafia post for 2 reasons. first on is he "believes" i am wrong. :D Kind of like this post. | ||
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Conversion
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On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote: There are glimmers of something in mderg's filter until the list post, which is mostly nulullllullululull. I was gonna bother but you know what? Truffle felt town to me most of the game until the reversal on Conversion's case. It's not even that Conversion's case was bad, because it wasn't; it's that it touched on the sort of intangibles that the Truffle of years ago didn't tend to find compelling. I think he's still town but don't give him a free pass. Holyflare is whatever the fuck. I can never tell even when I care. And I'm sure you all will blame me when you inevitably lynch me tonight after I bugger off for the rest of the day, but personally I only hold myself responsible for the beginning of the day when I was being a bit of a snit. At some point this game just isn't worth it anymore. Voting mderg. Don't want to vote DF without talking to ritoky about his read first. Could you touch upon the Truffle post more? If you’re willing. And the first line on mderg— is his filter bad or good? Can’t tell. I am running late to work for other reasons so hopefully will be in front of a computer soon. | ||
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Conversion
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Trfel
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On February 07 2018 15:50 Mocsta wrote: Yes, I changed my mind on Conversion because of his post on rsoultin (primarily that anyway). Conversion's analysis was good, regardless of rsoultin's alignment. He's been underwhelming since then, but I'm fine with him as town for now.trfel, i will get back to you tonight on those reads - i havent had the time at work today i was intending. I want to ask you some more questions, but im concerned they are already answered in the thread (e.g. i didnt realise conversion made addition points about rsoultin as you ?alluded? before) However, I am immediately curious about your position conversion. Yesterday he was a scum lean. Today, I assume you changed your mind because of his rsoultin rationale. And voted rsoultin. NOW, you have unvoted rsoultin; how does that influence the read on conversion? I do find it a bit weird that rsoultin says that her suspicion of Conversion wasn't her strongest read at the time (see here), but she voted for Conversion. Why are Koshi/Conversion/Mocsta/etc picking on mderg for having 10 scumreads? To me that seems to be a horrid misinterpretation of mderg's post. I only see him scumreading darthfoley, rsoultin, and Koshi. Is the argument that he's mentioning the things that make him suspicious of each person, focusing on reasons to be suspicious of people rather than reasons to townread them? I see nothing wrong with this. Not that I have a read on mderg myself yet, I just am not sure what this argument is saying. Conversion, rsoultin's read on me is heavily meta based. I can explain it for you if you'd like but if you really wanted to understand it you'd have to do a decent amount of reading and I doubt it would be worth it, especially since I haven't played in over a year and I've probably changed since then. | ||
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Conversion
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Koshi
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One of the easiest ways to solve this game is by PoE. I thought everybody did that. Remove townies from your list and look into others more indepth. If mderg is town he is the first who isnt doing that. Converstion okish and rayn okish iirc. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I completely miss the feeling he does it to solve the game. To come closer to the truth. | ||
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Conversion
United States3308 Posts
If I really want to nitpick on the mderg point: On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote: A good old summary post you all know and love. Comment: Who actually likes these posts? Damdred: Nothing Comment: Literally says nothing. ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though Comment: translates to, I guess he is town, but disclaimer I didn't do anything this game. Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel. Comment: Says nothing. darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum. Comment: Possible scum Rels: Nothing Comment: Literally says nothing. Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now. Comment: I guess his read was good, but he gets a "pass" since I didn't like his earlier post. Does this mean I am town only for this day? rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch. Comment: We already knew this from his vote and earlier post. raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part. Comment: Says nothing. Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking. Comment: Says nothing aside from I don't like Koshi this game Holyflare: Comment: ??? Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi. Comment: Says nothing. prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point Comment: Says nothing.: This post is literally saying most of the players are null, maybe one is possible scum. It is not a good post. It was unnecessary. | ||
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Conversion
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Koshi, why mderg > prplhz? I may be missing it from your filter, but I'm assuming it's because of mderg's list post and tone. | ||
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Trfel
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Personally I'm not a fan of his read progression on rsoultin. Feels like he goes from nothing to serial killer post was exaggerated to I see some of Mocsta's stuff (but the quality/accuracy of the read doesn't make me townread Mocsta) to passive-aggressiveness to not town rsoultin. Feels like following thread sentiment without adding much. The Mocsta thing really sticks out to me. Did mderg agree with Mocsta's case? It seems like he did, since he was saying that he was seeing it and the biggest reasons he (mderg) is suspicious of rsoultin for are in it. But his own read on Mocsta is that he (Mocsta) is town because of being focused instead of jumping around. Nothing at all to do with Mocsta's suspicions of rsoultin that mderg himself seems to agree with strongly enough to vote. Does anyone else see that? @Koshi, I see what you're saying now. I guess I don't expect everyone to solve the game by POE, I know that I don't. Not opposed to the rest of what you're saying though. Thanks for explaining your prplhz/mderg thing earlier, by the way, that really helped. I had missed rsoultin asking for your prplhz read. | ||
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Conversion
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I think we centralize on prplhz/mderg/rsoul here. I'm leaning more towards prplhz/mderg, but I didn't like rsoultin's latest string of posts either. I will explain that soon. | ||
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Trfel
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I dunno about prplhz. I'm not a huge fan of him but I don't think he's anywhere near as suspicious as mderg given the point above. The main thing I personally find suspicious about prplhz is that it seems as if he is townreading rsoultin for towncredit. Prplhz, if you are there, why do you townread rsoultin? | ||
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mderg
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On February 07 2018 22:45 Damdred wrote: Mderg pretend I havent read the game to a deep level,. If what Koshi says isnt true can you give me your sxum reada with a condensed reason for each? rsoultin: Feels like a completely different person than last game. Much less nice and inclusiv, much more aggressive in questioning people. Koshi: Seems like he is just trying to lynch by number of posts. Feels lazy unlike town hero koshi. darthfoley: Scumread on Mocsta for what I consider dumb reasons, omgus on Trfel, rayn and Mocsta and some general "bitchiness" | ||
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mderg
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On February 08 2018 00:07 Koshi wrote: What mderg did looks way more "what can I say about this filter". Nothing more. Just that. I completely miss the feeling he does it to solve the game. To come closer to the truth. I litterally looked at the player list and thought: "What do I think about them". When I didn't really know I looked at their filter. I very much need to do stuff like that to I keep my thoughts in order. | ||
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Koshi
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On February 08 2018 00:12 Conversion wrote: Man I'm tempted to sheep Koshi 100% and just lynch mderg or prplhz this game. Both filters are terrible. Koshi, why mderg > prplhz? I may be missing it from your filter, but I'm assuming it's because of mderg's list post and tone. I dont really care about which one atm. prplhz is still doing nothing. Is it mafia hiding or a townie who doesnt care? I dont know. Mderg just isnt making the right posts. | ||
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mderg
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On February 08 2018 00:08 Conversion wrote: and I'd like rsoultin to respond, but I doubt she will. It would help her case a lot more if she did so than you, as I need to be able to see what she is thinking and experience her clarifying her points. If I really want to nitpick on the mderg point: This post is literally saying most of the players are null, maybe one is possible scum. It is not a good post. It was unnecessary. Like half the time where you comment "says nothing" it only says nothing because you want it to say nothing. I have exactly 4 null reads: Damdred, Rels, Holyflare and prplhz | ||
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