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On February 07 2018 22:26 Koshi wrote:
I offcially revoke my leaning townread on rsoultin. I dont want to lynch her today. But fuck this thread control type of play that doesnt push the game forward at all. All stupid safe reads and nothing interesting in over 100 posts.
I am not entertained. You may die.
Cool beans.
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On February 07 2018 22:28 Koshi wrote:
There are 10 more posts in the thread about that. It has nothing to do with skimming. You are just filling your filter and not solving the game. You cannot miss all the fucking posts about this.
-shrugs- It wasn't obvious to me. So sue me.
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On February 07 2018 22:30 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:27 rsoultin wrote:On February 07 2018 22:23 Koshi wrote:
You have to not have read 7-10 posts to not understand the post...
Explain to me in extreme detail why prplhz is town or "ok" for you. I want to completely understand it. There's not much to completely understand. I didn't think there was anything particularly alignment indicative in what he'd posted, which is why I asked you (if I recall correctly) for your read on him. You tr prplhz at some point. Or at least were ok with him. You keep asking me about prplhz and your own read is foggy as fuck. Reread prplhz if needed and explain how you felt about him this entire game. What are you telling me?? You have had no opinion at all on him this entire fucking game? What are you doing?????
Filter diving.
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Lol, you mean the two posts that he'd posted at the time? I still don't think they say much about his alignment, despite your claim that he was nitpicking truffle. Nor do the name questions or saying that you like to be right do anything for me. He's null.
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On February 07 2018 22:33 Koshi wrote:
rsoultin is not solving this game. That is for sure. Blah. Last time you were way more obvious mafia.
I remember my banana apple post.
o.0 I vaguely but don't really remember this.
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There are glimmers of something in mderg's filter until the list post, which is mostly nulullllullululull.
I was gonna bother but you know what?
Truffle felt town to me most of the game until the reversal on Conversion's case. It's not even that Conversion's case was bad, because it wasn't; it's that it touched on the sort of intangibles that the Truffle of years ago didn't tend to find compelling. I think he's still town but don't give him a free pass.
Holyflare is whatever the fuck. I can never tell even when I care.
And I'm sure you all will blame me when you inevitably lynch me tonight after I bugger off for the rest of the day, but personally I only hold myself responsible for the beginning of the day when I was being a bit of a snit. At some point this game just isn't worth it anymore.
Voting mderg.
Don't want to vote DF without talking to ritoky about his read first.
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On February 07 2018 23:05 Damdred wrote:
Tinnnnaaa
Sorry if you're town, Ian. I'm just done. Calling me scum and shooting me multiple exclamation point question mark shouty posts is one thing.
Claiming I'm just filling my filter when I'm trying to leave a post flip legacy is another. Well, it's there. I'm done. I don't know if I'm right or not but whatever.
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On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote:
There are glimmers of something in mderg's filter until the list post, which is mostly nulullllullululull.
I think the problem here is when I originally saw koshi's post on mderg's list post I was typing up a post to the effect of there's a lot of nulls which isn't the same as a lot of scumreads, but realized that I didn't disagree with Koshi's conclusion so there was no real need to correct him on that. So in my head I'd already commented when I hadn't actually already commented.
The irony is you said essentially the same thing as I did about his list post with way more words.
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On February 08 2018 01:18 Conversion wrote:I wrote a big post on what I didn't like with rsoultin's post here: Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently. But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that. Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all: On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..
I believe your arguments are wrong
That sounds so icky. but I lost it in refreshing the thread maybe? I am sad. The point was summed up to be she was at earlier day thinking I was scum for missing posts that could have been met with more scrutiny in filters/reading the thread, and even repeated saying that it was not great behavior (although NAI), and then proceeded to do it with Koshi.
I know, ironic, isn't it? lol
To be fair, he posted that after another post that really wasn't talking about it so I got confused how they were related, but I see no point in talking about it anymore. Apparently I'm an awful baddy for not realizing he wasn't responding to darth foley's most recent post, but the one before. Whatevs.
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As for the truffle read, it's just that he used to have a tendency to focus on tangibles more than intangibles. By that I mean inconsistencies between actions and words, or words and words, kind of like he's still doing throughout the game. So it's actually unusual (but only weakly so given this is a years' old meta read as both he and I have said) that someone posting about intangibles about how I feel within the game vs how I feel within other games would be that convincing to him. Townreading you for it is completely within expectations and he should anyway because he's awesome like me except when I'm not.
@Truffle, that's because Conversion wasn't my main scumread when I was voting ritoky. You have the timing off, perhaps because I poorly communicated it.
I was talking about the point in the game when I posted the below post:
On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.
Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.
Rayn and truffle are town.
DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.
What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him.
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On February 08 2018 01:37 Trfel wrote:
Mderg, what do you think about rsoultin's points on darthfoley?
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On February 08 2018 02:45 Koshi wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: mderg
Both wagons like fine as I think mafia lies within Rels/Damdred/mderg/prplhz and HF.
So congratz to the ones who get their lynch.
I would never lynch rsoultin today. Way too much value that gets lost if she is town. Wayyyy too much value. Only lynch rsoultin if you believe you will be able to read mderg better as this game progresses or have a townread on him.
I also still haven't read a decent case on why rsoultin is mafia. The best points I saw were meta related. All the rest is not that brilliant.
<3! Not game-related, but warm fuzzies are always nice.
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On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not. On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum is this list post from Newbie. Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people. Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.
Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.
Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.
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On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.
Tina why you talk to me that way when i havent even been hostile as of yet?
Mocata why is me being absent so acum indicative exactly? Seems strange.
Honestly to the thread Mocsta is botgering me a bit honestly the last bit ive read. He pushed Tina pretty hard but ended up elsewhere while soft pushing me so far. Just tickles me in a bad way.
What?
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These are the only kinda sparkly things that I think could indicate a town mderg. Particularly the second, because it was where my mind was at regarding mocsta and his play from Newbie before he started diverting onto other things.
On February 06 2018 20:07 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 11:48 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 11:39 Trfel wrote:
Hi. Darthfoley, what was about Mocsta's posts about going to bed that got to you so much? Doesn't have to be a long answer, I know you said they felt awkward but I'm not really seeing what you are at present.
I'll read Mocsta's case soon. Basically if I were super tired and woke up to post, I would probably not make the second post with typos about going back to bed. For me, I would just be exhausted and fall asleep. The second post sounded like one of those "update on activity" posts mafia sometimes feel like they have to make That doesn't look like great reasoning to me
On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.
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On February 08 2018 03:11 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:On February 08 2018 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Mderg I sort of feel your read on basedgodkoshi is a bit... underwhelming. I think Koshi has on the surface decent points (i disagree with him because your list in review looks the same as last game somewhat.) so I dont necessarily scum level of koshi laziness or going along with the thread sentiment.
Tina why you talk to me that way when i havent even been hostile as of yet?
Mocata why is me being absent so acum indicative exactly? Seems strange.
Honestly to the thread Mocsta is botgering me a bit honestly the last bit ive read. He pushed Tina pretty hard but ended up elsewhere while soft pushing me so far. Just tickles me in a bad way. What? I said your name and you shot up some strange post that seemed to be towards me when i was just saying hi and wanting to talk
Oh yeah sorry. That was me getting aggravated at people for shitting on my attempts to relook at the game and leave reads before I flipped, not aimed at you. I was trying to explain why I was leaving.
What is it that you want to talk about?
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On February 08 2018 03:12 rsoultin wrote:These are the only kinda sparkly things that I think could indicate a town mderg. Particularly the second, because it was where my mind was at regarding mocsta and his play from Newbie before he started diverting onto other things. Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:07 mderg wrote:On February 06 2018 11:48 darthfoley wrote:On February 06 2018 11:39 Trfel wrote:
Hi. Darthfoley, what was about Mocsta's posts about going to bed that got to you so much? Doesn't have to be a long answer, I know you said they felt awkward but I'm not really seeing what you are at present.
I'll read Mocsta's case soon. Basically if I were super tired and woke up to post, I would probably not make the second post with typos about going back to bed. For me, I would just be exhausted and fall asleep. The second post sounded like one of those "update on activity" posts mafia sometimes feel like they have to make That doesn't look like great reasoning to me Show nested quote +On February 06 2018 20:25 mderg wrote:
Mocsta seems townie based on the fact that he kind of seems to know where he's going this game.
Yeah, way more comments and dissenting opinions in Newbie. I'll just link to the filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/529865-newbie-student-mafia-xxviii?user=mderg&page=2
I don't know that it for sure makes him scum, but between that and the fact that there's much more in the way of actual reads in that shorter list post makes me think he's our best chance of lynching scum today.
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On February 08 2018 03:21 Damdred wrote:
idk its a bit strange to me that when i got back you didnt jump on me to try to talk to me... and its annoying when i have postes very few have talked to me.
You didnt evwm talk to me about mocsta or tell me i was wrong and read the thread more idk.
Why should I have done that? I don't fundamentally disagree with you about mocsta.
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On February 08 2018 03:22 Koshi wrote:
HF mafia who lets rayn do the driving D1. Seems plausible.
This I could definitely see.
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On February 08 2018 03:24 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2018 03:21 Damdred wrote:
idk its a bit strange to me that when i got back you didnt jump on me to try to talk to me... and its annoying when i have postes very few have talked to me.
You didnt evwm talk to me about mocsta or tell me i was wrong and read the thread more idk. Why should I have done that? I don't fundamentally disagree with you about mocsta.
Although that does remind me that I did actually have a question for you.
I think ritoky looks good this game. He and Joni are probably my biggest townreads. So what is it that you don't like about ritoky?
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