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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 12:00 GMT
#1566
On February 09 2018 12:44 Damdred wrote:
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On February 09 2018 12:35 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 12:15 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 12:09 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:56 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:47 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:42 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:38 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
[quote]

I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read


i understand that rsoultin kind of goaded youbinto staying pact on her, but you were really not liming mderg/prp. Can you take me through not changing and staying pact?


The entirety of D1 was me trying to get some bad habits out of my play (too much OMGUS/spammy emotional filter, hence HF’s cheeky cyborg Conversion comment) and another one was my super waffley nature when scum reading people. Waffley nature came out anyways as I got nervous about my vote as it seemed rsoultin was looking better than mderg, so I let it be transparent in the thread that I was not confident. rsoultin goaded me, I guess, but it more served a reminder that I wanted to improve my game, even by a little bit. So I stayed.


Ok, can you take me through why tina was making you feel better before her string of bad posts. I thinl you were absent when both of them decided to vote not each other?


I really disliked mderg’s response to my prodding at him then rsoultin’s. Rsoultin at one point said “ok my play before this was bad, and I will try to start new.” which I feel like I have and would do if I was town.

Mderg’s was just a passively dismissive attitude and I just really disliked it


Ok, what do you think of tina now?


I’d have to revisit her filter but I don’t remember her doing anyhig memorable? Although that’s just more me zoning out than not.

I cannot fathom a mderg + rsoultin mafia team playing that horribly before EoD, but I guess it is not impossible


Ok heres whatbim gwtting at.

You start with a hard enough scum read on tina to want to lynch her, she then wants ti start over which is enough to get you to move your read and just narrow to prp/mderg, rsoultin convinces you to stay on her by calling out your waffles.

You then during the night call tina town, amd have scum between me/rayn/prp, and now dont have an opinion of her but keeping the option open with the last sentence here for a scum read.

So I know you say youve zoned out especially over being angry. But can you explain it to me what im not seeing or misunderstanding because it seems strange?


I don’t see me being unclear. A rsoultin + mderg team would mean that mafia played that EoD horribly, which is why I am less incluned to believe that she is mafia. However, that’s under the assumption that mafia is playing ideally. I know for sure that would have bitten me in the ass when you bussed your partner with Zen had you not gotten mod killed— which is why I am leaving this option as a possibility.

You of all people should know that I tend to keep possibilities open whether they make sense or not. In our coached thread I considered tens of options and doubted myself even though I might have been on the right track and kept questioning what was right or not.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 12:00 GMT
#1567
On February 09 2018 20:59 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 09 2018 20:56 Conversion wrote:
Why did Mocsta just post a PM? Fake or not. Wasn’t that against the rules? Weird play..
its only against the rules if the same from the host.

Get over it

This is what brings you to thread. Pfft


I just woke up you kangaroo.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 12:01 GMT
#1568
On February 09 2018 17:25 Koshi wrote:
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On February 09 2018 11:38 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:20 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 11:16 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:52 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:46 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:43 Damdred wrote:
On February 09 2018 10:39 Conversion wrote:
Damdred you still around? Who’s your preferred lynch today?


Right now im trying to get a better grasp, df is probably my strongest scum read. However wirh talking it out its kind of makes eod more confussing unless mafia team was super acrewed with afk team.


Okay. Wonder where DF went? I feel like he’s been missing after night. I need to park a vote on someone in case I don’t get back Satrday hmMm


idk, who would you want to lynch eoght now after everything that was said so far conversion?


I wasn’t planning to be here, to be honest. I’ll probably park prplhz and see where town ends up D3


i dont understand? i thought you had aome aolid scum reads you wanted to pursue even if you arent here anyway, or is prp your top scum now.


I’ll leave people figuring you or rayn out to other people. prpl is not memorable and I did a quick check with his Simple game and it gave me scum vibes. That’s the extent of the read

Be a hero tomorrow and decide between rayn and prplhz. I think those will be the main choices.


I’m going to end up sheeping you most likely, so probably.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 09 2018 12:06 GMT
#1571
On February 09 2018 21:02 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 09 2018 21:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 09 2018 20:59 Mocsta wrote:
On February 09 2018 20:56 Conversion wrote:
Why did Mocsta just post a PM? Fake or not. Wasn’t that against the rules? Weird play..
its only against the rules if the same from the host.

Get over it

This is what brings you to thread. Pfft


I just woke up you kangaroo.
good morning to you too

Apologies if in your filter but do you think one of hf and rayn MUST be acum?


It is not in my filter. I do not think so. My confidence in damdred/rayn/prplhz is that either Damdred or prplhz is scum, not rayn. If Damdred and prplhz returns town, then yes.

I think that objectively speaking Rels slot, my slot, and DF slot should be the most suspicious. HF looks and feels town and I really doubt he would pass the chance to hammer rsoultin with someone if he was scum with mderg. Also in the realm of really poor mafia play.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 10 2018 01:04 GMT
#1704
I am sheeping. Rayn wins my vote. Literally took a 7 hour trip home and woke up from a nap.

If prplhz is town I am bad. I cannot see how people townread his filter, but eh.

Voting rsoultin and falling back asleep. I like rayn’s plan bc I don’t have to think and people can just lynch me in the progress
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 10 2018 01:05 GMT
#1705
Rayn you are now my shepherd
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 10 2018 17:28 GMT
#1746
On February 11 2018 01:23 disformation wrote:
did take a short look at mocsta again. came back feeling town.
conv is kinda puzzling me in his super defeated tone:
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On February 10 2018 10:04 Conversion wrote:
I am sheeping. Rayn wins my vote. Literally took a 7 hour trip home and woke up from a nap.

If prplhz is town I am bad. I cannot see how people townread his filter, but eh.

Voting rsoultin and falling back asleep. I like rayn’s plan bc I don’t have to think and people can just lynch me in the progress

don't understand why he still has this tone even though he is at least not horrible in most ppls eyes...


Because I don’t have a lot of time now and I think if there’s a process that can solves the game without people making guesses as to what my alignment is, it is a positive.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 10 2018 20:11 GMT
#1810
I chose to sheep the right person. Also my case D1 wasn’t complete horseshit, and we had two mafia up for lynch D1. That is great.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 10 2018 20:21 GMT
#1820
I find it very interesting rsoultin didn’t try harder to direct and convince some of us sheeples into voting off of her. Although I guess rayn’s slam dunk post on how to approach the game was very hard to argue against
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 10 2018 22:50 GMT
#1877
On February 11 2018 05:38 disformation wrote:
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On February 11 2018 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 11 2018 05:34 disformation wrote:
so without a lot of doublechecking/filtering i'd say its probably either damdy or conv.

why would yo uthink conversion is scum?

super defeated tone/martyrism all the time after d1 (which might happen if both your partners were the wagons d1)
there were some other points I and koshi pointed out n1.

though... if it is koshi that might be moot


Idk, letting rsoultin get lynched when thread sentiment was still fresh enough to not get her lynched is just poor showing on my end, if I was scum. Which I am not.

Although this game is on auto right now since we haven’t mislynched once. Biggest doubt on me doesn’t make sense unless you’re saying I double bussed which is super risky play and wouldn’t guarantee a win. But eh.

Also if you’re scum reading me while keeping the logic of people on mderg wagon is pure, that wouldn’t work. What makes me scummy for putting rsoultin on blast and giving her lynch train some more steam on D1? Also, my decision between rsoultin and mderg now looks even less scummy since I was debating between two scum, no?

Defeatistm and such makes sense. I have some personal shit I had to deal with for the past few days so I apologize for being like that.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 11 2018 15:14 GMT
#1922
On February 11 2018 23:44 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 11 2018 15:57 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 18:48 rsoultin wrote:
I think I want to lynch into conv/rit/mderg today.

Not sure on mocsta...it's hard to tell with someone tunneled on you.

Rayn and truffle are town.

DF...I'm not sure. I see the issue truffle has with him, and it's part of why I'm reading truffle town, but I still think that tonally DF is kinda towny. Relaxed. Also, it doesn't really look like last game where he was scum.

What bugs me about ritoky most is he seems to have a decently strong reason to scumread conversion but isn't pursuing it. If conv ends up being scum, he probably is, too. Actually, he's probably scum anyway. I really don't get the focus on koshi over people who are actually scummy to him.
I think this also clears ritoky.

Note the addition of mderg @ the top which is classic scum play to hedge a set of reads with a team member; again a heuristic to strengthen a town read on: conversion + ritoky.

The DF support is very interesting - in particular the phrasing.
Note the thread sentiment at this point in time:
- trfel = heaps of town cred
- trfel scum reading DF. Several agree with this.
- rsoultin could easily bandwagon; but instead we get "kinda towny' (which equally means "kinda scummy") and a scum push on AFK ritoky.

Hey hey.. look its Marco the soft bus!!
[image loading]


Do yourself a favour and ctrl+f "darth" or "df" within Rsoultin filter


Agreed with your point on ritoky probably being Town. And I appreciate your bus picture.

But I can say with confidence that I am not mafia




Yeah, but you’re obligated to say that even if you were mafia.

/eyebrow raise


Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 11 2018 18:48 GMT
#1928
On February 12 2018 03:45 darthfoley wrote:
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On February 12 2018 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Df who mafia?

Disfo who mafia?


I think rayn, mocsta, and Damdred are town. Prplhz is also probably town

Mafia lies somewhere between you, disformation, koshi and Conversion


Am I mafia by process of elimination? If not I am curious to hear your reasons as to why I am mafia.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 11 2018 18:54 GMT
#1931
Cool. I look forward to hearing your thoughts because me being mafia means I basically pulled off a huge balls play in calling both mderg and rsoultin out like that D1
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 11 2018 20:09 GMT
#1961
does parody cop or whatever return different checks on blues? also who saves Koshi over rayn on that might :l
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 11 2018 20:10 GMT
#1962
Like does VT check and blue check return a difference?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 11 2018 20:11 GMT
#1965
also if prplhz is mafia then I played a decent game. My first decent one

On February 08 2018 00:26 Conversion wrote:
Someone (I think DF) also called out how hilarious it was that mderg commented on how he liked Mocsta for kind of knowing where he was going in the game, but also said he had a hard time really understanding his posts..

I think we centralize on prplhz/mderg/rsoul here. I'm leaning more towards prplhz/mderg, but I didn't like rsoultin's latest string of posts either. I will explain that soon.

Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 11 2018 20:16 GMT
#1967
Okay. My vote is sitting on prplhz unless rayn says his powers work differently than the above questions
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 11 2018 22:30 GMT
#1995
Are unaware millers normally in normal setups?

Also why would you lynch rayn if DF flips town? Or are you saying you’ll lynch rayn if DF doesn’t return unaware miller?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 12 2018 14:21 GMT
#2074
I'm going to read Rayn's case now. Finally in front of a computer.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 12 2018 14:27 GMT
#2075
HF what parts of Rayn's case is factually incorrect? Aside from his "HF only makes jokes when he is mafia" bit.
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