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On February 07 2018 08:29 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
And why does that make that post bad? You literally acknowledge you didn't want to talk about the game because of Mocsta's wall of text etc. I haven't even read his wall of text but Rayn is saying you have a scum read that you aren't pushing and you're not interested in getting involved with the game. I feel much the same way. It's the opposite of a bad post imo. You're very dense Me not wanting to read Mocsta's wall of text =/= me not wanting to read the game. I can interact with the game without dealing with big ass confusing posts. That's like elementary logic
Perhaps you're misunderstanding. I, myself, feel that you are not interacting with the game AT ALL and are being a sideline person that does nothing and has nothing to say. Rayn has echoed that in that post that you linked. So, when Rayn says that you aren't interacting with the game you respond with you don't want to read posts like Mocsta's instead.
I'm pretty sure it is you who is misinterpreting things. Also needlessly insulting people. Probably mafia.
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Let me get this really succinct and clear as a time line:
Rayn says that Darthfoley isn't talking about Rsoultin and that is okay if he does talk about other stuff.
Rayn says Darthfoley isn't talking about anything though.
Rayn says Darthfoley has a scum read he isn't pushing.
Darthfoley responds saying he would be happy to talk about stuff if it wasn't so long winded like Mocsta's posts.
In my eyes you have entirely misrepresented Rayn's argument and manipulated it to be you're not talking about Mocsta when in fact he's saying you're not participating in the game like you normally would as town. Rayn says it looks like you're on the sidelines posting about a scum read but not pushing it in the slightest (like you did last game with Mocsta).
So please, elaborate for my very dense brain why this is such a bad post that requires you to repeatedly insult an individual's talent and intellect.
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On February 07 2018 08:29 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
And why does that make that post bad? You literally acknowledge you didn't want to talk about the game because of Mocsta's wall of text etc. I haven't even read his wall of text but Rayn is saying you have a scum read that you aren't pushing and you're not interested in getting involved with the game. I feel much the same way. It's the opposite of a bad post imo. You're very denseMe not wanting to read Mocsta's wall of text =/= me not wanting to read the game. I can interact with the game without dealing with big ass confusing posts. That's like elementary logic
On February 07 2018 08:35 darthfoley wrote:
It does make me happy that last game HF defended me heavily and this game he is suspicious of me. It just proves that some people really do have the #GOD tier read on you.
On February 07 2018 08:36 darthfoley wrote:
Is anyone else here besides HF? Trying to find people to interact about the game with
This is an exceptionally abrasive response for really quite a rudimentary question of how was Rayn's post bad.
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That was a much better response and I acknowledge it as partially correct. Thank you.
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On February 07 2018 08:43 darthfoley wrote:
I've played like 3-4 games in a row where I have had significant pressure on D1 and it's annoying and frustrating, especially when the accusations are false or lazy as hell. So yea, i'm gonna be salty and I don't really want lectures from people who flame the fuck out of other players acting high and mighty about it.
People accusing me of being a sideliner somehow should take a look at mderg's filter to grasp the meaning of a sideliner.
I don't think I really ever flame the fuck out of other players but okay.
You should probably realise why people scum read you though and acknowledge that they shouldn't be put down for it. You have mentioned how you've been shot night 1 repeatedly as town and from what I've played with you you have been a good player. So, when you don't post as much and aren't at the forefront of this game ready to be a prime shot target night 1 this game then naturally people are going to be suspicious of you. It's not a slight on your character, it's an admirable thing to be called mafia for. It means you're generally good.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now and let you do some more things (like push Rsoultin and Mocsta) and I'll re-evaluate when it comes to needing to do that. Hope that's okay.
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On February 07 2018 08:52 darthfoley wrote:
HF what do you make of Mocsta defaulting to Damdred being the best lynch option ATM?
I haven't read a single word Mocsta has written because it's always over my arbitrary maximum allowed reading word count.
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On February 07 2018 09:26 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2018 08:59 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:54 Mocsta wrote:On February 07 2018 08:49 darthfoley wrote:On February 07 2018 08:36 Mocsta wrote:
Minor stream of consciousness incoming.
I am in the process of re-evaluating where my Day1 vote should go.
Maintaining on rsoultin pros:
1 - I expected her to brush off the case - but attempt to discern my motive further. Instead, IIRC she called me scum and then town for an absolutely stupid reaction test reason.
2 - The wagon hasnt picked up that much traction - which is a good Day1 heuristic to me. Mafia try to resist unfavourable wagons. At this point, Conversion is not a wagon.
Maintaining rsoultin cons:
1 - Ironically, that people are starting to see her as scum (for the same fucking reasons I posted). This makes me twitchy.
2 - I do need to give more credit that early game it is hard to work with people to illuminate reads. That component of my case should be reconsidered.
Some short thoughts on people with ritoky scale
Damdred: -5. I am considering him the best Day1 lynch option.
mderg: -2. subject to a meta dive. I never thought he was sitting in the background being a sheep last game. I dont have that vibe association with him this game.
df: +1 on ritoky scale (and continuing to drop as he continues his rigid thinking)
rsoultin: need to re-read game to confirm position.
conversion: I do see a general lack of care, but i dont see it mafia focused either - and nothing to do with rsoultin. I just dont think mafia would be so blatant about glossing over filters etc.. I am really inclined to default to SK.
other people I dont have a direct concern about at this point. So you're now saying that "1 post" Damdred is the best lynch option after going after rsoultin hardcore all day phase? Now that reminds me of Mocsta vs. darthfoley last game Again. why jump to worst-conclusions. Im saying im considering it because I dont like people are joining me on rsoultin for my reasons - but treating it as their own.The fact that multiple people are doing it, is the only thing that makes me comfortable (as in it indicates i communicated very poorly, vs. malicious intent). Pray tell me though. Do you see anything towny about damdred so far? Flu or not. Very delayed response that says extermely little. Even his first post last game was better. I'm not jumping to worst conclusions. I just don't see why you decide Damdred is the best lynch, but Rels, for example, isn't. Or prplhz or Mderg. Do you see anything town about Rels so far? Damdred was lynchbait last game and I haven't seen anything incriminating from him. Regarding the bold. I'm not sure I understand... you're paranoid that other people are joining you on rsoultin but trying to claim credit for your reasoning. So... 1) When rsoultin flips mafia, you don't look as good? 2) When rsoultin flips town... they look worse? I don't understand the motivation for mafia to join a wagon on town!rsoultin but try to steal the credit for the mislynch. Why make themselves look worse when they could just take the easy route and blame you? I didnt even know Rels was in this game lol. DF is really salty, and I was treating that as enjoying spotlight, but perhaps is just bitter prick about being scum twice in a row. You are continuing to misconstrue everything I say. I havent decided Damdred is the best lynch. hmmmm, im starting to see rsoultin/damdred/df team with conversion as SK.
I mean you literally write you are considering Damdred the best day 1 lynch. What I think you meant is you are considering whether he is the best day one lynch.
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Also I'm officially at peak this wagon is going too fast levels.
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Has anyone in this game thrown out rsoultin being town other than koshi?
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Did I join a themed game or wtf? I'm just a boat man.
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On February 02 2018 00:35 Skynx wrote:Slacking hard, I'll post my normal mini in an hour or so Edit: [M][N] Vendée Globe 16' Mafia is open for signups!
No, it's normal.
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Literally says normal in the thread title. Maybe should have read that.
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I'm not French so it means nothing. They're just random names from the actual event likely with a random role/alignment.
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Rsoultin posting would be nice
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As leader of this wagon I need clarity.
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You should probably do that. I don't need questions answered. Just need rsoultin to post.
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I also won't be around much today because of work anyway. Only reason I'm posting now is because I'm in bed. Work starts in 15 mins and it takes an hour + to get there.
Oops.
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I don't think ritoky has made any posts he couldn't make as mafia in regards to reads. All I remember of ritoky is also just complaining which turned out wasn't even founded in any kind of truth.
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