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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 27 2018 21:19 GMT
#1417
On January 28 2018 06:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 06:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 28 2018 06:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
On January 27 2018 23:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 27 2018 23:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
That means doc saved (2 confirmed) or vet got shot (1 confirmed)

In case of vet, claim now. Same goes for doc.

Claiming is only helpful if it confirms a question mark. Doc shouldn't claim unless it is HF or kmatt basically.

Who are your question marks?

Replace question marks with "people in danger of being lynched". Everyone is a question mark to some degree.

Okay, so who are in danger of being lynched and who is ranked highest on this list, for you?

Well, it's not like I haven't said that multiple times already or anything. You could also have a look at my vote. Even though that could change if HF keeps playing and other people keep afking.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 27 2018 21:43 GMT
#1426
On January 28 2018 06:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
just for the record, as long as jat's alive, I'll vote him over everyone else. Toxicity and ignorance is not exactly something I'm interested in.

That's quite rich coming from you. But if you want to act like a little bitch go ahead.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 27 2018 21:44 GMT
#1427
On January 28 2018 06:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
now this is classic btdt

yup
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 27 2018 21:53 GMT
#1428
On January 28 2018 06:36 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 06:31 beentheredonethat wrote:
expecting an apology to reconsider his alignment. Only reason I see for him to tilt me is he being scum. He can't possibly be a toxic fuck in reality.


oho ho

He is apparently seriously underestimating me ;D
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 27 2018 22:03 GMT
#1431
On January 28 2018 06:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 06:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 28 2018 06:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
just for the record, as long as jat's alive, I'll vote him over everyone else. Toxicity and ignorance is not exactly something I'm interested in.

That's quite rich coming from you. But if you want to act like a little bitch go ahead.

I have not been toxic in this game. Ive been toxic before but what youre doing all this game is being hostile and ad hom towards me. I asked you to stop it, you refused. So youre either scum trying to tilt me or an asshole. Id prefer the first thing since this is a game where we (and the newbies!) Are supposed to have fun. If you as a veteran choose to act how you do without a reason, it gives a shitty impression of tje tl.net playerbase. So i really hope for you youre scum.

Yes, because it clearly is in my interest as mafia to make an enemy out of you. Very smart conclusion.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 27 2018 22:15 GMT
#1432
It is always the same with you. First you post some asinine logic. Then people call you out on it and you go full emo. It is incredibly annoying and I won't empower it. If that makes me an asshole then so be it.
If you want to be a baddy and vote me - do it. I am probably dead before I need your vote for lynching someone.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 27 2018 22:16 GMT
#1433
On January 28 2018 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
Let's just chill out and drop it. No more talk about not game related stuff please. Talk about who is mafia other than me because otherwise you're wasting time.

You are right - I said my part. Good night.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 09:41 GMT
#1504
On January 28 2018 13:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2018 23:20 Damerion wrote:
On January 18 2018 23:04 mderg wrote:
I really don't like the way Damerion is making his case on Damdred, though.

Using the fact that Damdred left the thread is like the weakest reason to push the read I can imagine.


How about this. Using people left the thread as a reason is weak.

Saying Damdred is sitting in discord yapping it up with his raid group/playing another game to escape pressure here isnt the weakest thing ever.

Its a bit cheap and I hope it summons him. Other than that what do you not like about the case?


I don't think Damerion responds to a partner like this with more evidence to clarify a read to justify his damdred wagon. It seems as though he is doing what he can to convince mderg in this situation.

It's weak but its something to me.

I like this.

You are doing a pretty good job in general.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 09:57 GMT
#1505
@btdt
I never said I do not like you as a person. I just hate the things I mentioned about your play. But fine, in the interest of keeping this newbie game civil I will refrain from provocing you any further. If you really want to better yourself you should stop spitevoting me in return. Unless you actually think I am the scummiest player in the game which would be a ridiculously bad read.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 12:11 GMT
#1507
In more game relevant news:

Holyflare almost has me at a point where I would prefer lynching Kmatt who just doesn't seem to be interested in playing this game. But this always happens when HF is about to get lynched.
There are things in his play this game which I can't look past. These are:

- His incredibly tunneled push on damdred. I am not talking about suspecting damdred in general - when I read Damerions post at the time I also thought "wow, this is an insightful read" and I would probably also have latched onto this. The thing that bothers me is his refusal to ever reevaluate despite rsoultin telling him to.

- This kept happening even after damdred flipped when he refused to lynch damerion. HF always read rsoultin town but never even tried to see things from her perspective or entertain that maybe she could be right and he could be wrong. Generally he was extremely uncooperative and tunneled for no good reason.

- Something I cannot get over at all is the stuff with the damerion claim. Damerion has been wrong, basically stopped playing and was heavily pushed by rsoultin. HF even acknowledged this somewhat and said he would lynch damerion after prplhz. But instead he does this weird thing at the end of night 2 that Rels keeps harping on about and instantly believes damerions claim. Why? HF should be able to tell that this is not a setup that makes sense and that this claim is incredibly fishy. I also think the foreshadowing of Damerions claim is completely inexplicable as town.

- The stuff with the rbs is just WIFOM. It is entirely possible that he always thought that btdt is the doc as he now claims anyways and that he either wasn't aware the rb targets get notified or didn't care because it doesn't really confirm the person anyways (usually at least). If I was mafia and thinking btdt is the doc I also would just rb him and not shoot him. Kelsier and rsoultin were definitely more important kills to make for a mafia HF because those are people that can actually lynch him if they try.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 12:13 GMT
#1508
Just to get my perspective out. I still like the effort HF put in today so far although it still lacks a clear direction concerning mafia reads.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 13:05 GMT
#1518
On January 28 2018 21:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2018 21:11 justanothertownie wrote:
In more game relevant news:

Holyflare almost has me at a point where I would prefer lynching Kmatt who just doesn't seem to be interested in playing this game. But this always happens when HF is about to get lynched.
There are things in his play this game which I can't look past. These are:

- His incredibly tunneled push on damdred. I am not talking about suspecting damdred in general - when I read Damerions post at the time I also thought "wow, this is an insightful read" and I would probably also have latched onto this. The thing that bothers me is his refusal to ever reevaluate despite rsoultin telling him to.

- This kept happening even after damdred flipped when he refused to lynch damerion. HF always read rsoultin town but never even tried to see things from her perspective or entertain that maybe she could be right and he could be wrong. Generally he was extremely uncooperative and tunneled for no good reason.

- Something I cannot get over at all is the stuff with the damerion claim. Damerion has been wrong, basically stopped playing and was heavily pushed by rsoultin. HF even acknowledged this somewhat and said he would lynch damerion after prplhz. But instead he does this weird thing at the end of night 2 that Rels keeps harping on about and instantly believes damerions claim. Why? HF should be able to tell that this is not a setup that makes sense and that this claim is incredibly fishy. I also think the foreshadowing of Damerions claim is completely inexplicable as town.

- The stuff with the rbs is just WIFOM. It is entirely possible that he always thought that btdt is the doc as he now claims anyways and that he either wasn't aware the rb targets get notified or didn't care because it doesn't really confirm the person anyways (usually at least). If I was mafia and thinking btdt is the doc I also would just rb him and not shoot him. Kelsier and rsoultin were definitely more important kills to make for a mafia HF because those are people that can actually lynch him if they try.


I didn't agree with the Damerion read on Damdred, at all. I didn't particularly care for the meta. I cared about Damdred's reaction and his follow up to who he was pushing. A couple of things made it reallllyyyy unlikely he was town for me:

1. His acceptance of the meta. I just thought it was an insane coincidence that he accepted that it was true and conveniently wanted to change it to the detriment of his town game within one or two games. I thought accepting it essentially confirmed him mafia and he was just scared of Damerion's push because from my experience Damerion has always been correct.

Then even if I looked past the above I read DF's filter and he was pushing similar things to myself. Mocsta, Damdred etc. Damdred's scum read of choice was df and he was essentially appealing to emotions instead of ever really pushing DF. I think he had just one sentence on DF the entire game.

I don't know why you'd expect me to trust rsoultin's read of damdred which was entirely tone that I didn't agree with over my own logic based one though.



2. That's not entirely true. I was uncooperative because she tried to paint me as mafia for things that just occurred during day to day life such as being at work and only speaking up when I got home. When we got past that and posted about Damerion we just had differing opinions. I explained my read and she explained hers. She posted a case on him and to be frank I didn't really read much of it. Time, effort etc. It was only when she actually explained away my point that he used the meta too early etc and the fact he never posted about anyone else since that I really just realised I shouldn't defend him.

3. Damerion's claim was an entirely ego based thing. I've spent the game being contradictory and when he finally returned and I see the claim I'm just happy I was "correct" on my read. No, I didn't really think about the whole calling it in the thread thing and nor did I really care if he died or was rbd. I also did not read the op at all and thought there could be a framer and rb to balance it (I talk through this). When btdt claimed being rbd I just thought he was a jk and at that point I knew jk/cop/vig isn't right and I thought that btdt didn't claim rb day 2 because he was blue and they weren't announced. Turns out they were notified, he wasn't blue etc etc. I kept my vote on Damerion after because I asked for his reads and he was unable to provide them. He also didn't play like he was afraid of a rb and I didn't think he'd check btdt either.

But you know that rsoultin is quite successful with tonereading (especially damdred) this way. And you should also know that damdred does stuff like that as town. There is a reason he is often a lynch candidate day1. He is very easy to push as mafia - I can tell from my own experience - and very easy to scumread as town for his somewhat weird way of expressing himself and doing/saying seemingly illogical things (I have also done that quite a few times).

Your answer does not explain why you would soft Damerions claim during the night as town. Ok, you didn't care. But still why would you even do it? It doesn't make any sense to me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 13:15 GMT
#1521
Sure. Go ahead. But I can't force other people to play along with this.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 13:18 GMT
#1522
On January 28 2018 22:14 Holyflare wrote:
What do you think of Mocsta? He seems to always want to be on the right side of what's happening and have his own different opinion and it bugs me. It feels quite unnatural in a way imo.

I remember having a good feeling about him when I read the game. No distinct things I can point to apart from the post rels also mentioned a few times where he posts the pictures. I think this is a really harsh thing to do to your scumbuddy darthfoley. He also definitely wasn't always on the right side of what is happening with the prplhz lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 13:20 GMT
#1523
Also he was always involved and seemed interested in solving the game and keeping a reasonable atmosphere. If we exclude that episode with the btdt rb but I will attribute this to alcohol/special circumstances.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 13:20 GMT
#1524
Why do you think he is mafia? And is he more mafia than let's say rels?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 13:35 GMT
#1528
Before you get lynched you should definitely summarize your kmatt scumread again. From start to finish. If it keeps being your #1.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 13:51 GMT
#1530
But I have to say Kmatt being mafia feels too easy. And I can't really be bothered thinking about that case since he will probably get lynched at some point anyways. In my experience people like him are lynchbait townies quite often.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 13:53 GMT
#1532
Ok, then include that in your case. I obviously have 0 experience playing with him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 28 2018 18:38 GMT
#1538
I really do not see the problem with his "town HF was on cruise control" stuff. He is talking about your point of view where he is mafia and calls it nonsensical that you are backing off despite no changes to his play.
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