Newbie Student Mafia XXVIII - Page 7

On January 25 2018 08:19 Holyflare wrote:
You are massively missing Kmatt's posts.

On January 25 2018 23:48 justanothertownie wrote:

Sure, not pro town at all. But also quite ballsy as mafia. Risky play for a low chance of success given the state of the game

On January 26 2018 00:40 mderg wrote:
I can definitely see Hf's points

On January 25 2018 07:40 Rels wrote:
OK so I reread N2 to check that thing about HF softing he knew Damerion was blue. And it makes no sense if HF is town.

It starts with the first big post Damerion made after coming back, in which he had this part:

To which HF immediately reacted:

So. HF saw the hint that Damerion is blue, and immediately post it in the thread. Why ? What's the point of doing it if HF is town ? It gains town nothing. It's actually detrimental to the town, because if scum manage to understand it, they can use this information and kill or roleblock Damerion.

Then it happens again. In another post later on, Damerion softs on his "green check" on Mocsta:

And HF reacts with these two posts, showing again he thinks Damerion is blue, and more precisely, cop with a green check on mocsta:


Once again, why ? The reasonning is the same as above. It's even obvious in retrospective, anyone searching for blue in the thread will pick it up - IE scums.

So. It makes no sense for a town perspective to act like that. It makes total sense from a scum perspective though. The benefits are twofold:
- it makes HF appear smart and thinking about the game. The ironic thing about it is that it's totally about the appearance. It only serves to appear townie; but when you take the time to think about the town motivation behind it, there is none, and it's actually detrimental to the town. Total scum pointer there.
- if Damerion is his partner, this is a play prepared by both of them. It prepares the claim that will happen after the night is over:

And it attempts to gain towncred for HF:

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Now here comes the meta part of this post. I think the above is sufficient to make anyone scum and making me want to lynch them. What's even scummier is that Holyflare is a player that always tries to play mindgames with the scum in order to make them waste kills or actions on Vanilla Townie. For example, he often says weird thing during the night, or says some player is an obvious blue, to confuse the scum team.

But he has not done that this game. In contrario, he softed exactly who he thought was the cop 3 times in the thread. This is 100% against the way he plays.

Now this is a meta read, so you will have to read some town games of his to verify it if you never played with him. But I think at least JAT can attest to it.

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TLDR: I think HF is scum, and I think Damerion & HF make perfect sense as a team. HF softing he thinks Damerion is blue during the night is (1) totally against a townie's interest and (2) totally against HF own meta. Furthermore, them being together actually explains these posts: it would mean they were preparing the fakeclaim as soon as Damerion re-entered the thread during N2.

On January 26 2018 09:06 Kmatt wrote:
Does this theory on HF account for why he would bus him so quickly? I mean the whole thread was kind of against him but with how much he's been on me there wasn't even an attempt on a counterwagon.

On January 26 2018 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
There's a big disconnect between hf being the best mafia player on the site and mafia holyflare doing something blatantly anti town like calling out a cop claim.

Does not compute.

On January 26 2018 09:13 Kmatt wrote:
Could you link me the game where town ignores cop's check? That takes a special kind of stupid.

I'm not above voting him though, he's been on my list anyway. In fact I don't think he's ever not someone I want to lynch.

On January 26 2018 09:50 Mocsta wrote:
No one is 100% scum till flipped bro

Damerion was 99%

On January 26 2018 09:53 Mocsta wrote:
Rels

Whats less from a townie perspective

Discussing blue claim during night with no blue nk
Or fishing for roles during after cc?

On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
not a good idea

Game is potentially lylo with a mislynch next cycle

Just because a town holyflare scum reads someone. Doesnt mean they are scum

Frankly i prefer kmatt as a lynch to holyflare

I believe all people present feom day1 to now care too much to be scum. Hf is in this group... being wrong doesnt mean being scummy.

Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play

Further. I havent been convinced that the stuff hf and me picked out aboit kmatt is non scummy

On January 26 2018 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
Kmatt has only picked up activity since cop claim which could be a scum teamm all-in play

On January 26 2018 18:22 Mocsta wrote:
pls tell me this is another game?

On January 26 2018 18:31 Mocsta wrote:
hmmm i can see that working actually

Heck once the cop claim came i took my vote off

Its australia day and im drunk.
Will reevaluaye kmatt and holyflare if i make it to tomorrow