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On January 23 2018 21:21 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2018 21:16 Rels wrote:On January 23 2018 21:14 rsoultin wrote:On January 23 2018 21:11 Rels wrote:On January 23 2018 21:10 rsoultin wrote:On January 23 2018 21:07 Rels wrote:
I'm still baffled that Damdred caught himself saying "like" too much and tried to change it. It doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to me. I read it as he caught himself saying 'like' too much generally, not in an alignment-indicative sense. yeah obviously, but it still doesn't make sense to me. I don't know. It's like anything else, isn't it? If you're trying not to, say, get as worked up at people as you usually do it's generally because you don't like the behavior in yourself. Saying 'like' in a grammatically incorrect way (like geript does all the time) reads valley girl. Which in the states translates to stupid rich white girl on the West coast too consumed with her looks, money and material stuff. I have no trouble seeing why he wouldn't want to talk that way if he caught himself doing it. But maybe it's easier to understand from an American perspective because I know where the speech pattern comes from? No I don't understand. For me valley girl meant naïve girl in the wild, but even with that clarification I don't get it. I write what I want to write, and I don't stop thinking about it 'cause I'm already doing the best I can. + Damerion's accusation was about him saying "like" more as an alignment than the other, so it's not even the same thing. I mean, this is all water under the bridge at this point, but given the tone of the rest of his post that's part of why I found it hard to buy holyflare's Damdred panicked story. It was an entirely stupid response to being 'caught'. In the context of the post, that was mostly a brush-off as it read to me, it just sounds like he said whatever without considering how it would look to say it. Which usually means it's just true -shrugs- A truly panicked post I would expect to be aggressively defensive.
I don't agree. I saw what HF saw, IE it looked like Damdred came up with a random explanation to explain Damerion's point and tried to brush it off.
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well you could have saved him. p:
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On January 18 2018 21:31 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2018 21:25 Damdred wrote:On January 18 2018 21:20 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:Hello! Mcosta Rico obviously has a post a bunch of unnecessary fluff. I don't like this. It feels he is trying to inject and clog up the discussion early on, so that later near the vote we don't have a solid lead. On January 18 2018 13:42 Mocsta wrote:On January 18 2018 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
hello comrades On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
who is this mocsta character.... Fear not, for I... am a comrade! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
... and why is he speaking so much? Because I can, Because I want to, Because I desire to... @DarthFoley: Why do you ask?On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction? I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already. Wise words Kmatt. I want to start calling DarthFoley, AxelFoley... get it  + Show Spoiler +Beverly Hills Cop reference. For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal. However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico. Both above feel like mafia in their agenda. But I doubt they are together since it wouldn't make sense for Darthfoley as his team mate to do that. For now both are in my suspect pile until the game develops more. On the oppersite end, Mderg feels the most town. His posts are interacting with the discussion going on and feels like it's coming from a town perspective. Rusissan Rsoultin itch post doesn't get her town in my eyes, as the way she worded it allows her to back track more easily and generally feels like she is not committing to a read. The one's I bolded are the ones Im talking about. On January 18 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not a jimmy hendrix fan i gather?
purple haze bruh
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction? Nope, missed that reference entirely. I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already. So many itches. A holyflare who says hi and scrams when he's at the centre of attention. Though it is late and joke votes obvious, still an itch.Rels hi itchy for similar reasons but less itchy when not center of attention.Darthfoley passive aggression at someone eager to participate ??? (In retrospect this bugs me most at present) Prplhz just needs to be swatted with a newspaper. Mild itchiness with an eager Damdred not being around for game start, but then, it's Damdred; he could have fallen down a set of stairs @.@I hate phone posting  Lazy rsoul should just get on her pc. And yes, itchiness is like a mild form of scummy in case that's not clear. Maybe more accurate to put it as it rubs me wrong and makes me suspicious. QQ phone posting is hard Why doesn't it make sense that they could be scum together (mocsta and DF), they have no real interactions together (yet). Also the comments could be distancing obviously so it does make moderate sense. But still a bit much to make a decision either way I suppose. But both are scummy Lol, as and you shall be given. I didn't consider the idea of distancing each other. But it still doesn't make sense in my head for Darthfoley to put himself into a spot that early on where now he and his teammate MCosta Rico are going to be the top scum on anybody list. Due to Mcosta Rico posting style, Darthfoley should have known that would of have already drawn a bunch of attention to his teammate. Therefore, if no actual progress is made by Mcosta Rico to get into a better spot, Darthfoley has to vote Mcosta Rico, or look very suspious for changing his read since he is clearly thinking Mcosta Rico is scummy for it. If Mcosta Rico does improve, than attention will be shifted to Darthfoley, making it he'll for the team either way. If that makes sense.
such perfect and sure reads 10 minutes into the game. And he sure love talking about DF.
Lol I think he's in love with DF. Basically every single post of his talks about DF. Such attraction.
+ Show Spoiler +On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal.
However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico.
On January 18 2018 21:26 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Also you don't think Darthfoley and Mcosta Rico are together right? If so, why? On January 18 2018 21:31 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
I didn't consider the idea of distancing each other. But it still doesn't make sense in my head for Darthfoley to put himself into a spot that early on where now he and his teammate MCosta Rico are going to be the top scum on anybody list. Due to Mcosta Rico posting style, Darthfoley should have known that would of have already drawn a bunch of attention to his teammate. Therefore, if no actual progress is made by Mcosta Rico to get into a better spot, Darthfoley has to vote Mcosta Rico, or look very suspious for changing his read since he is clearly thinking Mcosta Rico is scummy for it.
If Mcosta Rico does improve, than attention will be shifted to Darthfoley, making it he'll for the team either way.
If that makes sense.
On January 18 2018 21:56 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
If Darthfoley was scum with Mcosta Rico, then I would expect him to have presented his "suspections" more strongly since he knows it to be true.
Maybe I am over estimating. Maybe you are under estimating. On January 18 2018 22:01 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Is meta that thing where people based early reads on a player's past games?
Anyways,
Bold doesn't make since sense everyone who thinks Darthfoley is scum is doing the same.
Can you explain the word usage point more in detail with examples? On January 18 2018 22:29 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2018 22:18 Damerion wrote:
Currently I have very little to go on, mostly just nulls. I will update that as we go.
I am confident that my read on Damdred is correct however, there is clear scum motivation for what he is doing. What is your read on Mcosta Rico and DarthFoley? Damdred just admitted that his meta is to mustang/bus his teammates as mafia. As someone who states he knows his meta, what is your opinion on his reads on them. And what are yours reads on them? On January 18 2018 22:44 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Plus here he looks like he is squirming in the read section. When I pressured him about his DarthFoley + Mcosta Rico team read, he just eventually submitted to me and focused on allying me. On January 18 2018 23:04 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
What do you think of Darthfoley post though? I get the want to have more info on it, but that doesn't rub you as mafia to you?
What about his focus on defending himself. Do you think he is just pressured town? On January 19 2018 01:01 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
So if you don't like the Damdred or Mcosta Rico vote. Then who you want? Holyflare? Darthfoley? On January 19 2018 02:29 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2018 22:38 Damerion wrote:
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As for my read on Darthfoley, I think he is null one post does a case not make unless he claimed scum.
I do not like Mocsta posts, however I do not think his ramblings are alignment indicative. So pressure him fine but I do not see it, strange yes but nothing beyond that. I was worried about him only seeming to have a read on damdred. But it seems strange for him if he is mafia to exclude the other two prime vote targets at the time from his pool. He also didn't seem worried to frabicate a read or what not on them. Bear in mind this is before the damdred votes piled so it would be a major gamble from him to make it impossible to chase Mcosta Rico and Darthfoley based off current suspecious of them. I felt he was town before, but I think this seals it. Thoughts?
Might be partner indicative.
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On January 23 2018 21:58 rsoultin wrote:
Actually...even though I felt he was organic before, it is odd that twatty apparently had mocsta and darth foley as scum, but not together, but instead interacts with pretty much everyone but them. Even Damdred. Who he votes as a 'placeholder' until his scumreads talk more?
yeah but actually he wasn't in the thread in the same time as both of them. But yeah about the placeholder vote, then never coming back to change it
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On January 23 2018 22:48 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2018 21:46 Rels wrote:On January 18 2018 21:31 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:On January 18 2018 21:25 Damdred wrote:On January 18 2018 21:20 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:Hello! Mcosta Rico obviously has a post a bunch of unnecessary fluff. I don't like this. It feels he is trying to inject and clog up the discussion early on, so that later near the vote we don't have a solid lead. On January 18 2018 13:42 Mocsta wrote:On January 18 2018 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
hello comrades On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
who is this mocsta character.... Fear not, for I... am a comrade! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On January 18 2018 12:58 darthfoley wrote:
... and why is he speaking so much? Because I can, Because I want to, Because I desire to... @DarthFoley: Why do you ask?On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction? I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already. Wise words Kmatt. I want to start calling DarthFoley, AxelFoley... get it + Show Spoiler +Beverly Hills Cop reference. For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal. However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico. Both above feel like mafia in their agenda. But I doubt they are together since it wouldn't make sense for Darthfoley as his team mate to do that. For now both are in my suspect pile until the game develops more. On the oppersite end, Mderg feels the most town. His posts are interacting with the discussion going on and feels like it's coming from a town perspective. Rusissan Rsoultin itch post doesn't get her town in my eyes, as the way she worded it allows her to back track more easily and generally feels like she is not committing to a read. The one's I bolded are the ones Im talking about. On January 18 2018 15:53 rsoultin wrote:On January 18 2018 12:49 Kmatt wrote:On January 18 2018 11:31 Mocsta wrote:
not a jimmy hendrix fan i gather?
purple haze bruh
not interested in why my vote is cast that direction? Nope, missed that reference entirely. I didn't think much of the vote unless you're on some 4d-chess game and know him to be scum already. So many itches. A holyflare who says hi and scrams when he's at the centre of attention. Though it is late and joke votes obvious, still an itch.Rels hi itchy for similar reasons but less itchy when not center of attention.Darthfoley passive aggression at someone eager to participate ??? (In retrospect this bugs me most at present) Prplhz just needs to be swatted with a newspaper. Mild itchiness with an eager Damdred not being around for game start, but then, it's Damdred; he could have fallen down a set of stairs @.@I hate phone posting Lazy rsoul should just get on her pc. And yes, itchiness is like a mild form of scummy in case that's not clear. Maybe more accurate to put it as it rubs me wrong and makes me suspicious. QQ phone posting is hard Why doesn't it make sense that they could be scum together (mocsta and DF), they have no real interactions together (yet). Also the comments could be distancing obviously so it does make moderate sense. But still a bit much to make a decision either way I suppose. But both are scummy Lol, as and you shall be given. I didn't consider the idea of distancing each other. But it still doesn't make sense in my head for Darthfoley to put himself into a spot that early on where now he and his teammate MCosta Rico are going to be the top scum on anybody list. Due to Mcosta Rico posting style, Darthfoley should have known that would of have already drawn a bunch of attention to his teammate. Therefore, if no actual progress is made by Mcosta Rico to get into a better spot, Darthfoley has to vote Mcosta Rico, or look very suspious for changing his read since he is clearly thinking Mcosta Rico is scummy for it. If Mcosta Rico does improve, than attention will be shifted to Darthfoley, making it he'll for the team either way. If that makes sense. such perfect and sure reads 10 minutes into the game. And he sure love talking about DF. Lol I think he's in love with DF. Basically every single post of his talks about DF. Such attraction. + Show Spoiler +On January 18 2018 21:19 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
For example, even for the early stages of the game this post hit me as him prioritizing being fambyont then asking his question to Darthfoley. As town, this doesn't make much sense as it is counter productive to town''s goal.
However, I agree with others that Darthfoley entrance and comment about Mcosta Rico felt forced. The tone and way he wrote it felt like he was primarily trying to throw shade onto Mcosta Rico.
On January 18 2018 21:26 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Also you don't think Darthfoley and Mcosta Rico are together right? If so, why? On January 18 2018 21:31 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
I didn't consider the idea of distancing each other. But it still doesn't make sense in my head for Darthfoley to put himself into a spot that early on where now he and his teammate MCosta Rico are going to be the top scum on anybody list. Due to Mcosta Rico posting style, Darthfoley should have known that would of have already drawn a bunch of attention to his teammate. Therefore, if no actual progress is made by Mcosta Rico to get into a better spot, Darthfoley has to vote Mcosta Rico, or look very suspious for changing his read since he is clearly thinking Mcosta Rico is scummy for it.
If Mcosta Rico does improve, than attention will be shifted to Darthfoley, making it he'll for the team either way.
If that makes sense.
On January 18 2018 21:56 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
If Darthfoley was scum with Mcosta Rico, then I would expect him to have presented his "suspections" more strongly since he knows it to be true.
Maybe I am over estimating. Maybe you are under estimating. On January 18 2018 22:01 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Is meta that thing where people based early reads on a player's past games?
Anyways,
Bold doesn't make since sense everyone who thinks Darthfoley is scum is doing the same.
Can you explain the word usage point more in detail with examples? On January 18 2018 22:29 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2018 22:18 Damerion wrote:
Currently I have very little to go on, mostly just nulls. I will update that as we go.
I am confident that my read on Damdred is correct however, there is clear scum motivation for what he is doing. What is your read on Mcosta Rico and DarthFoley? Damdred just admitted that his meta is to mustang/bus his teammates as mafia. As someone who states he knows his meta, what is your opinion on his reads on them. And what are yours reads on them? On January 18 2018 22:44 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
Plus here he looks like he is squirming in the read section. When I pressured him about his DarthFoley + Mcosta Rico team read, he just eventually submitted to me and focused on allying me. On January 18 2018 23:04 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
What do you think of Darthfoley post though? I get the want to have more info on it, but that doesn't rub you as mafia to you?
What about his focus on defending himself. Do you think he is just pressured town? On January 19 2018 01:01 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:
So if you don't like the Damdred or Mcosta Rico vote. Then who you want? Holyflare? Darthfoley? On January 19 2018 02:29 TheTwatyEvildoer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2018 22:38 Damerion wrote:
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As for my read on Darthfoley, I think he is null one post does a case not make unless he claimed scum.
I do not like Mocsta posts, however I do not think his ramblings are alignment indicative. So pressure him fine but I do not see it, strange yes but nothing beyond that. I was worried about him only seeming to have a read on damdred. But it seems strange for him if he is mafia to exclude the other two prime vote targets at the time from his pool. He also didn't seem worried to frabicate a read or what not on them. Bear in mind this is before the damdred votes piled so it would be a major gamble from him to make it impossible to chase Mcosta Rico and Darthfoley based off current suspecious of them. I felt he was town before, but I think this seals it. Thoughts? Might be partner indicative. He mentions Mocsta nearly as much as df tbh. Lots of his posts that mention df are in relation to Damdred having df and Mocsta in his scum pile. The amount of focus he puts on the df and Mocsta scumreads from Damdred is much more unsettling to me.
that's true. I was focused on DF so I didn't see that. Nevertheless the fact that he's seeing almost all the game from only this prism (one of Mocsta / DF is scum, I dont' know which one, Damdred is scum because he thinks both Mocsta and DF are scum) is weird to me. He's, like (lol I'm a valley girl), decided one thing is true, then he's playing the game only using this. It's not fluid, it's not chaotic like an early game should be.
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On January 23 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:
My plan is working. Excellent.
I'm gonna be mad at myself if that's true. And I'll be a living hell in all future games we're in together
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On January 24 2018 01:48 Damerion wrote:
It might of been a small pool where we have played together, but Damdred has a remarkably large pool of games to pull from. Also it is not beyond the realm of possibility that in our long conversations Damdred and I discussed some aspects of how each other approaches the game.
I don't understand the wording. Did you or did you not have long conversations about how you approach the game with each other where you discussed that point ? It should not just be in the realm of the possiblity, you should know for certain since you were the one having a discussion.
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On January 24 2018 09:06 Damerion wrote:
Also to give plenty of time for discussion and since I believe it clears more than myself anyway.
Hard claiming cop
Night One I checked Mocsta before my shift and it returned green.
Night two I checked Beentheredonethat and it returned green.
Holyflare caught me softing it and i seem to think it makes him town for me not being shot.
Vig + Cop + what I assume is a protective role since it's a newbie seem like too much for me.
So maybe there isn't a protective role. If that's the case, OK that claim is believable.
If there is one though, this is a fakeclaim.
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On January 24 2018 09:06 Damerion wrote:
Holyflare caught me softing it and i seem to think it makes him town for me not being shot.
also this screams like "PREPARED"
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So basically. It's very, very unlikely there are 3 blues in this setup. But if there isn't another blue it's OK. Debating if we should force a mass claim or not.
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On January 24 2018 16:40 justanothertownie wrote:Yep? All of these setups are less town favored than Cop + Vig alone.
And ?
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On January 24 2018 16:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2018 16:42 Rels wrote:On January 24 2018 16:40 justanothertownie wrote:Yep? All of these setups are less town favored than Cop + Vig alone. And ? So basically if this claim was true the setup would be unprecedentedly town favoured.
Oh I read that the other way around. Maybe. It's true game could be over N1 with that setup because of the 2 invesgative roles, which is usually not the case. I don't know if there is ever 2 powerful investigative roles in a 13 players game.
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yeah it makes no sense. We don't have 2 investigatives in a newbie.
##Vote Damerion
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+ coming from the guy most likely to be lynched today, and whom biggest townie rsoul was attacking and shot even with the likely possiblity of a medic protection on her.
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On January 24 2018 17:48 Holyflare wrote:
I would still believe btdt over Damerion though after d1 vote count.
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On January 24 2018 18:40 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2018 18:12 Rels wrote:On January 24 2018 17:48 Holyflare wrote:
I would still believe btdt over Damerion though after d1 vote count. ? the problem with the darthfoley vote on btdt, is that it came about after talkign with rsoultin (who was voting btdt) hard to say if it was to appease a high town cred person, or an easy town wagon to sheep. The complexity comes in that his next post he calls rsoultin scum. (amongst btdt/me and kelsier) if you want to look @ end of wagon, it comes down to whether scum would risk bussing btdt if one of the 2 afk suddenly voted. i think its very expected on day1 for everyone to vote (heck, everyday, everyone should vote).. so i dont like a world where scum btdt/df were hoping the afks wouldnt hammer btdt.
My interrogation with this post is that HF would still "believe" BTDT over Damerion, indicating he thinks BTDT might claim something, unless I misunderstood. So I want him to expand on that thought.
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On January 24 2018 18:41 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2018 18:05 justanothertownie wrote:
The only thing I see in his filter is that he apparently got rbed twice. well roleblocker is more synonymous with vig + protective role whilst godfather with cop. i.e. likely that scum have an RB.
Scum almost always have a RB. And they usually have a GF or framer regardless of the existence of a cop, so the setup cannot be guessed by the mere presence of it.
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On January 24 2018 18:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
Apparently we're lynching Damerion, is there a red check?
why are you posting if you can't be bothered to read the 3 pages since the flip ?
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