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On January 20 2018 06:39 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:38 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
Did Damerion ever say what he thinks of BTDT? Doesn't seem so, looking through his filter. I don't recall him having much of an opinion on anything but damdred. Yes, this is also my problem with him. Being this gung-ho on one person is one thing, but a lack of communication with the rest of the game is something more
This is Damerion in every single game. Pick a mafia, get ignored and very much afk with a focus on one person. Every single game. Person is mafia every time.
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On January 20 2018 06:40 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
You're saying that if df flips mafia then my motivation is a mafia motivation because fuck really blatant observable facts. You are the one going down this shit route. I'm just calling out bs when I see it.
Regardless, I forgot twat and kmatt. Twat goes top and kmatt goes to df tier. No, I'm saying that your motivation could be mafia motivation and that the explanation you gave me is unverifiable. I also clearly said that it could not be. Try calling out bs that actually exists. I already said that your reasoning was fair. It just gets me no closer to sussing you out, which is irritating.
Would you like me to get the emails from work of exactly what I was doing at the time of btdt posts? It's very very easy to prove actually.
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On January 20 2018 06:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.
Why are people voting df? For me it's a static mocsta scumread. His reasoning, that mocsta is focusing on minutiae (first explanation) and/or making vague reads (second explanation) and/or whatever the third explanation was that I should look back up or won't both struck me as inaccurate and being adapted to match the static read. Could be wrong but not going to vote Damdred over him for 1) erroneously applied meta for how Damdred plays day 1 or 2) he admitted to using the word 'like' -_-
All of those explanations of mocsta are correct though? Your post with green or red was a really fucking scummy post with multiple outs. Mocsta defended me from you multiple times and his read on me in that post barely even thought I was anything.
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On January 20 2018 06:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:42 Holyflare wrote:On January 20 2018 06:40 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:38 Holyflare wrote:
You're saying that if df flips mafia then my motivation is a mafia motivation because fuck really blatant observable facts. You are the one going down this shit route. I'm just calling out bs when I see it.
Regardless, I forgot twat and kmatt. Twat goes top and kmatt goes to df tier. No, I'm saying that your motivation could be mafia motivation and that the explanation you gave me is unverifiable. I also clearly said that it could not be. Try calling out bs that actually exists. I already said that your reasoning was fair. It just gets me no closer to sussing you out, which is irritating. Would you like me to get the emails from work of exactly what I was doing at the time of btdt posts? It's very very easy to prove actually. No, I wouldn't. I've come to it means nothing anyway so it doesn't matter. I don't know why you're so focused on my saying I can't prove what you're thinking lol >< It should be obvious that's true regardless of what was going on at work or whether or not you were at work.
Because my ultimate goal is to look towny enough to skate by and do nothing and you're ruining it.
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On January 20 2018 06:46 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:41 Holyflare wrote:On January 20 2018 06:39 darthfoley wrote:On January 20 2018 06:38 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
Did Damerion ever say what he thinks of BTDT? Doesn't seem so, looking through his filter. I don't recall him having much of an opinion on anything but damdred. Yes, this is also my problem with him. Being this gung-ho on one person is one thing, but a lack of communication with the rest of the game is something more This is Damerion in every single game. Pick a mafia, get ignored and very much afk with a focus on one person. Every single game. Person is mafia every time. I find this Damerion the town god image you paint EXTREMELY unbelievable. It's actually tempting to go back through his games. No one in my experience has ever been anywhere close to 100% right while tunneling one person every game they play. That's a ridiculous thing to even claim, hf.
Do it. He's 100%. Then lynch damdred.
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On January 20 2018 06:51 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:45 Holyflare wrote:On January 20 2018 06:43 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.
Why are people voting df? For me it's a static mocsta scumread. His reasoning, that mocsta is focusing on minutiae (first explanation) and/or making vague reads (second explanation) and/or whatever the third explanation was that I should look back up or won't both struck me as inaccurate and being adapted to match the static read. Could be wrong but not going to vote Damdred over him for 1) erroneously applied meta for how Damdred plays day 1 or 2) he admitted to using the word 'like' -_- All of those explanations of mocsta are correct though? Your post with green or red was a really fucking scummy post with multiple outs. Mocsta defended me from you multiple times and his read on me in that post barely even thought I was anything. We don't see things the same. Half of what he said about you when I talked to him was me asking to clarify how you were actually being constructive  Which is not defense, but explanation. But my issue is not whether or not mocsta should be scumread anyway, but how df has been doing it. I think that's pretty clear.
It's a fucking explanation which is entirely a defence.
He can't have that read on me unless he knows that alignment imo.
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I have read df's filter and I have determined he is not the lynch.
AT ALL.
I'm sticking my neck out and taking a stance.
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I don't even see why he has votes at all tbh.
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On January 20 2018 06:51 mderg wrote:
skimming through damerion's games he doesn't look much different from usual. I haven't bothered to check, if he was right or wrong in his reads, though.
You should check. He's the mafia bonjwa.
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wtf is his november game and was I in it?
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he has never got a read wrong in any game I have played with him
he always pushes a lynch on mafia
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On January 20 2018 07:06 rsoultin wrote:
Heroes of the Storm, and yes, Shockey. I'm not saying he wasn't scumreading most of the rest of the scum team or whatever cause he was. Thus pretty good reads. But not perfect. And hardly the I TUNNEL SCUM and nothing else picture.
Meta read out of nowhere, super sure...idk if you're this right maybe you do have an ego that size. But how does he come to at least some correct meta points but then apply them completely differently from me? Or is this the one game that Tina fucks up on Damdred's alignment majorly? It's not impossible. But some of his points being similar and with my generally good track record on Damdred, us applying them differently suggests he's wrong even if town and overconfident.
Mrt.
we have a winner
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On January 20 2018 07:26 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 07:23 rsoultin wrote:
Damerion's first game comes closest to actually matching Holyflare's characterization. Extremely good reads there, mafia team call outs early. Still not the one at a time to exclusion of everyone else bit, but solid.
Lol it's funny rels cause my thought is I kind of want to lynch Damerion >> I just...why the fuck mischaracterize something so easy to check in hf's case? no this doesn't prove anything, HF thinks this is true whatver alignment he is. But he's so focused on Damdred for something so minor. So sure. And then when Damdred comes and says BTDT is town, automatically they're a team. And then this whole pointless debate about him being at work, which goes nowhere. Just a pointless discussion in which he argues just to win the debate, just like he does as scum.
categorically false
I said btdt is mafia for being wagoned and then being apathetic to it and fucking off
it just so happens that damdred and btdt are a team too and then everything damdred did afterwards proves it
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this game reads exactly like every damerion game ever
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link me one that disproves this
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I don't understand why it's so fucking hard to lynch damdred when he's literally doing shit all and makes a post to appease people and fucks off again. It's really quite simple that this is nothing like town damdred at all.
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On January 20 2018 07:37 Rels wrote:Yep I really hate all of these. Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:30 Holyflare wrote:
Hey your accusation is changing. Better get that in check. I had a bit of free time at work previously to skim and see a btdt post where he fucked off said lol mafia and went about working again. Now I'm home with more free time and am posting more.
What you're seemingly saying is that I'm doing mafia things deflecting off df when he's going up for lynch even though I'm saying I don't care if he dies. Even though I've stuck to my same scum reads and have pushed the same things.
Maybe I should be less active instead then? HF you're spending so much time defending against this accusation. Nobody else gave a shit. Then later: Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:40 Holyflare wrote:
You're also doing irrelevant Damerion questioning. There's two people up for lynch afaik. Damdred and df. I would like a little more focus on that. Or even mocsta.
Why are people voting df? So you're fighting strongly for BTDT/Damdred to be lynched over DF but you have no idea why people scumread him. Makes no sense ot me. Then later Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
I have read df's filter and I have determined he is not the lynch.
AT ALL.
POINT OUT WHERE I STRONGLY GO FOR THEIR LYNCH OVER DF LOL
I'm sticking my neck out and taking a stance. Cool. Why ? But more importantly, it's super late compared to your strong stances about BTDT / Damdred in the posts above. And this whole pointless explanation about how you didn't post before because you were working but now you can post is pointless.
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no idea where the text went but it said:
POINT OUT WHERE I FIGHT STRONGLY FOR BTDT AND DAMDRED OVER DF.
It's literally 2 fucking posts outlining legit points and then I read df and he looked fine
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no rels that is complete bull shit
they are all responses to "HF is pushing btdt and damdred over df now!"
and who gives a shit if I was? I don't remember df doing anything bad and I remember all those others doing bad things and damdred, my scum read, deflecting to df
should I not be pushing anyone?
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On January 20 2018 07:48 Rels wrote:
HF why is Damdred scum again ? Why is DF town ? Why does Damerion's read is better than your owns ?
nothing to do with damerion, damdred's reaction
df isn't doing anything bad and his read on btdt wasn't too bad and his mocsta read is good, I agree with it
I don't care about damerion's read reasons, I care about his certainty enough to say damerion is town but damdred is mafia independently of damerion's reasons
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