Yeah honestly I don't know. I think your last three would be tough to beat in almost any combo, but the one you picked was probably the least likely to work.

rsoultin

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February 04 2018 09:51 GMT

#2127

You did extremely well with a crippled scum team against a stacked town, mocsta...JAT and koshi replacing into two afk slots boned you hard.

Any scum team that manages to mislynch all three of Damdred, Rels and HF is pretty baller; I think you'd have been fine without the replacements. (Also not sure if I ever would have caught you after lynching Damerion. Maybe after mislynching HF lol...hard to say when I didn't in obs but would have put more work in if still in the game. Maybe you should have taken me to lylo!)

And yes @kita. I do think setting the newbie standard to no replacements after the start of D3 would be justified. Also, thanks for the hosting, man

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

February 04 2018 09:54 GMT

#2128

On February 04 2018 18:44 Mocsta wrote:

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As per monologues lol, I was mostly concerned that mderg wouldnt be present for the 48hrs and then land an unpredictable last minute vote.

So true lesson is, I should have fought harder to avoid the Rels mislynch.
I needed Rels in the final 3.

Probably, yeah. I think you were cataloguing how much people could be influenced? You had toughies left

Not that Rels can't be stubborn, too.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

February 04 2018 09:55 GMT

#2129

Generally if taking confirmed town to lylo can be avoided, I would :/

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

February 04 2018 10:35 GMT

#2132

On February 04 2018 19:30 Mocsta wrote:
I still think biggest shame of this game is that the replacements were for new players.
Even more unfortunate is that it appears some left as they were not getting any enjoyment.

I do not know what the solution is; nor, what it could entail.

Is this the majority of what is left with TL-Mafia?

Honestly don't know. Been out for a year. This game didn't seem like it should be scaring newbies away in terms of atmosphere, though. The most acerbic parts of the game were after the replacements happened. I know for some it's just more involved, a greater time sink, than anticipated.

I also think people age out and there aren't as many younger ones coming in :/ But that may be the nature of the site itself.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

February 04 2018 10:36 GMT

#2133

On February 04 2018 19:34 Koshi wrote:
Kids these days...

-pokes- It's a wild koshi!

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

February 04 2018 11:31 GMT

#2136

To be fair, even if Damdred failed at 'looking innocent' because he was a goober and didn't instantly call Damerion out for taking something that he'd told Damerion he was trying to change in his play and using it to mislynch him (which is mind-boggling to me, Ian, lol, that could never be a town push with the information you had), he was getting through to some people in the game still.

I'm sad that he couldn't elaborate on his mocsta read better. I find that Damdred's way of looking at games resonates with mine more, and likely would have found his reasons more convincing. Of course, I'm also stubborn. So there's that.

-pokes Mocsta- I want to see your townplay though :/

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

February 04 2018 11:34 GMT

#2139

That said, JAT's point is generally right. Good reads don't mean much without the other two. And, actually, bad reads aren't as crippling as you might suspect...maybe you can't find mafia, but if you find a few good solid town reads that are better at finding mafia than you and sheep them, that's just as valuable. Sometimes moreso. Because even people who have some of the best reads are still quite often wrong.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

February 04 2018 11:45 GMT

#2140

On February 04 2018 20:34 Holyflare wrote:

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Me? It's pretty much because I work full time now and practically invest almost 0 time to thinking about the game and just post what I'm feeling at that current time so it all becomes a jumble of jumping between one thing and another. Unfortunately, it makes me bad even if I point out good things. Like I said, I'm not good any more. Just used to be.

I was suspicious of you but since nobody was really acknowledging it or agreeing then it felt like a wasted investment and then people started accusing me which is my biggest distraction/weakness. Now people know that I love getting in "pointless debates" as any alignment so it's all good for me.

Actually, I don't think you carried things too far this game in the 'pointless debate' department.

Ever since Himalayas I've been paranoid about you getting into arguments with me. Your scum QT with your 'shit the thread up by arguing with rsoultin' approach now just makes me question every argument we have, lol. I think I can discern the difference now. It was why I kept tonereading you town this game. So that's a plus?

I definitely still need to work on not posting emotionally. Or as much in general. It's getting better, but still reared it's ugly head with you far too much this game. Apologies for that.

rsoultin

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February 04 2018 11:52 GMT

#2142

On February 04 2018 20:47 Mocsta wrote:

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No idea what it is. I havent played since end of 2013.

I would have been classed as paranoid and overly convoluted back then. I hope that has evolved somewhat now.

Maybe we'll get to see it in Globe 16 or whatever...

Also, thanks JAT! You broke my years' long mafia losing streak @.@