EPT-pokes rels- What am I missing?
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@mderg Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at, too. Pfft. I think the lynch Day 1 clears BTDT. There's always the possibility of bussing for distance, and Darth Foley pointed out BTDT without pursuing him which makes that possibility higher, but I'm not sure why the bother. It's pretty forward-thinking when a Damdred vote from Darth Foley would all but secure a town lynch. Only reasonable counterargument is that scum!BTDT is a non-entity this game that Darth Foley thought would flip before him this game and can win him some towncred later down the road. Really wish there were anything at all from BTDT that I could actually get a read on instead of playing the what was Darth Foley thinking roulette. I don't know what to think about Kmatt. If he were my newbie I'd be telling him to vomit his thoughts all over the thread and not be afraid to sound stupid. Bad play from him regardless of alignment. I'm predisposed to dislike anyone on the prplhz lynch who saw my case on Damerion, which presumably he did. But that's premature without a Damerion flip. And obviously I can't blame anyone for lynching prplhz. Circumstantially he looked guilty as fuck. | ||
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On January 23 2018 20:29 Mocsta wrote: ^^lololol what a misrepresentation. When I checked for defintion: "When the pot calls the kettle black" on wikipedia.. + Show Spoiler + a portrait of HF appeared Seriously, this game is ez street. Its most likely 6-2 on Day3. Damerion lynched = 6-1 -> 5->1 Even the town afk players can win with those odds. To be pragmatic about it, all us here still giving are shit. pains me say: are town.. yes, including you hf. Scum is in the afk stack (TWAT/Kmatt/damerion) Rsoultin case is pretty fuckn good. I wish I had read it before the deadline. So damerion is auto lynch. Between twat/kmatt, can afford a mislynch. Only chance of us losing is if BTDT and darthfoley were bussing. Yes its plausible, but that doesnt mean the most likely scenario. Simple solution guys....its now just a boring waiting game. /night -squints at- Hold the phone. When did holyflare become town to you? | ||
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On January 23 2018 20:36 Mocsta wrote: Its not that i feel he is town Its that with this game at a record low 36pages. I truly think the only people that still care are town. You cant take that away from hf. I would hate to lose the game because he is frustratingly obnoxious. Fair...I just think that's probably not a good reason to townread him. Neither is mine or Rels', though, lol >< Scum can give a shit about winning the game, just like town, and all of the facts don't make holyflare look scum. Moreso if I'm right on Damerion. Gut reads for the win, I guess? @holyflare - mocsta responded to my read on prplhz, then came in with his eureka moment on the same point, which says reading comprehension issues to me rather than being...a sign of mafia trying to find a super cute reason to get on a wagon? I don't find it alignment indicative. On the other hand, it's worth giving him another look, since we have all night phase. | ||
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On January 23 2018 20:44 Mocsta wrote: You got me for another hour. So be my guest I think the problem is that, assuming this is your town game like my gut has been telling me all game, you're...well, you did say you were intuitive, didn't you? You remind me of other players who typically get scumread as town for not making sense to people. | ||
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On January 18 2018 20:55 Mocsta wrote: I agree that DF and prplhz need to be fleshed out more. I think DF entrance is the most forced thing I have read so far. As for prplz: I get it is the weekend, but to be so blatant about AFK is just..meh. I think an acceptable backup option at this point - unless DF equally AFKs. The other stuff means nothing to me given timezones and early day1. This is true. Sucks to talk to yourself  There may be tendencies I have that ppl like HF have vague familiarity with. But i wouldnt call it meta per se. I joined this game for a specific purpose, and that falls outside any notion of "mocsta" meta. Why does odd default "scummy weird"? [b]Im more a thinker than a feeler - can you detail this out more as im struggling to understand the association? Well, now you're just contradicting yourself -_- | ||
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On January 23 2018 20:47 Mocsta wrote: I dont want to hijack into theoretising Re mafia caring If darthfoley damerion and an afk are scum.. i can see plenty of reasons to be demotivated afyer the vig shot. Especially afyer df was almost lynched. Game prob felt like it was 12-1 instead of 10-3 Thats all i will comment on thata If that's true we're playing against ourselves. Which, as a sidenote, is why I'm trying to get town talking so scum at least has to post to try to blend in. Versus now. | ||
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But I understand where you're coming from if you're referring to brigs myers types. I'm an INTJ myself. And anyway, sorry holyflare. I know that if you're town you really want it to be mocsta, but rereading his filter his interactions with darth foley don't look like scum v scum to me. Volatile double buss for what purpose? | ||
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On January 23 2018 20:56 Holyflare wrote: What did you just tell me about looking at facts? I would 110% be pushing this game in a different direction more gung ho if I was mafia. It's just a summarisation of what she's been repeating since day 1..... Dude, chill. I'm stating reality. I've said, multiple times since night 1, that I'm tonereading you town despite your scumsiding play. And, by the way, did you look at the spoilers? Yes, I repeated what I said based on feels from reading those filters, but I took quite a lot of time to confirm that those feels actually reflected reality. And presented the evidence for you. Meanwhile you say the evidence was stacked against Damdred and you rely on evidence. Unless you have a reason other than "I don't think scum hard pushes a town lynch there" which they do, and you do as scum, so hello bullshit meter, there's your evidence. And I don't want to hear any more degrading my case. It's good. I could be wrong, but it's solid. It doesn't look like his town game because he wasn't as engaged when he was active in the thread, and there is no way his meta test on Damdred's play could have possibly given him such a strong read on Damdred so early. He's either an idiot with meta (possible, but unlikely given his former town play) or he has to know that was bullshit, i.e. scum. | ||
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But you don't give me the courtesy of 1) Fully reading something I've worked quite some time on, and 2) Shit on it. I don't care if you disagree. That's fine. (Well, I do a little, but that has more to do with wanting to persuade people.) Downplaying it pisses me off. | ||
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On January 23 2018 21:07 Rels wrote: I'm still baffled that Damdred caught himself saying "like" too much and tried to change it. It doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to me. I read it as he caught himself saying 'like' too much generally, not in an alignment-indicative sense. | ||
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On January 23 2018 21:11 Rels wrote: yeah obviously, but it still doesn't make sense to me. I don't know. It's like anything else, isn't it? If you're trying not to, say, get as worked up at people as you usually do it's generally because you don't like the behavior in yourself. Saying 'like' in a grammatically incorrect way (like geript does all the time) reads valley girl. Which in the states translates to stupid rich white girl on the West coast too consumed with her looks, money and material stuff. I have no trouble seeing why he wouldn't want to talk that way if he caught himself doing it. But maybe it's easier to understand from an American perspective because I know where the speech pattern comes from? | ||
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On January 23 2018 21:16 Rels wrote: No I don't understand. For me valley girl meant naïve girl in the wild, but even with that clarification I don't get it. I write what I want to write, and I don't stop thinking about it 'cause I'm already doing the best I can. + Damerion's accusation was about him saying "like" more as an alignment than the other, so it's not even the same thing. I mean, this is all water under the bridge at this point, but given the tone of the rest of his post that's part of why I found it hard to buy holyflare's Damdred panicked story. It was an entirely stupid response to being 'caught'. In the context of the post, that was mostly a brush-off as it read to me, it just sounds like he said whatever without considering how it would look to say it. Which usually means it's just true -shrugs- A truly panicked post I would expect to be aggressively defensive. | ||
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On January 23 2018 21:19 Rels wrote: lol HF didn't change his reads once. Don't know if he's ever scum this game. It would make no sense Eh, you've probably got a point. His scum game is good enough to allow for read changes. I shouldn't badger him about scum-siding before we have a Damerion flip, but it's hard. | ||
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On January 23 2018 21:24 Rels wrote: I don't agree. I saw what HF saw, IE it looked like Damdred came up with a random explanation to explain Damerion's point and tried to brush it off. -shrugs- I don't really see much point to jabbering about this unless it's helping you get a read on me because you didn't understand why I didn't think that Damdred was scum? Cause honestly it just comes down to I read Damdred correctly and y'all didn't. And he's dead. So...yeah. | ||
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On January 23 2018 21:28 Rels wrote: well you could have saved him. p: God don't remind me lol >< I might have overposted before to the point of detrimental, but that's the most overt case for sure. I remember going to look at the vote thread, pouting that even if I changed to BTDT against Damdred's wishes (and yes I did hesitate cause I'm an emotional goober before deciding fuck Damdred's town read) he'd still be lynched cause evil Rels had switched. Wrote out my pout. And you'd fucking swtiched to BTDT ;o; In retrospect, it may have been for the best; I think the Damdred issue would have dominated the thread until he flipped. But I miss him. And I'm a boob -_- | ||
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Nevermind. I think I'm just oversensitive. Did you read my spoilers? It's in pretty colors to make it easy to compare. I legitimately would like to know why you don't find the case convincing, if it's more than what I mentioned just a moment ago. @Rels...maybe. I really am not sure on things like that. The way I play scum, my issue tends to be ignoring my teammates because I don't know what to do with them. But I recognize others may play differently. | ||
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On January 23 2018 21:58 rsoultin wrote: Actually...even though I felt he was organic before, it is odd that twatty apparently had mocsta and darth foley as scum, but not together, but instead interacts with pretty much everyone but them. Even Damdred. Who he votes as a 'placeholder' until his scumreads talk more? Disregard. Contextually it makes sense when you take into account that neither were really in the thread when he was. Back to square one for Tina lol >< | ||
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