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Reread Boson's case
+ Show Spoiler +On November 22 2017 05:06 Z-BosoN wrote:VE, you're all over the place man. Chronology on HapaShow nested quote +On November 21 2017 08:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm pretty sure mafiaHapa doesn't "test" townies, but anyone is free to debunk my feelings there if there's hard evidence to the contrary. ** Whole bunch of no-hapa posts happen ** Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 20:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like....Hapa is really confusing in a really mafia sort of way. He noticed the same thing I noticed about darthfoley, which made me think DF was mafia, and seemed to make him think DF was mafia. However he then comes in and says it's some sort of test? Like, a bait and switch sort of thing? It's just way more likely that he's not reading the game at all and doesn't care. And that's mafia Hapa to me. Chronology on DFFrom regular scumread Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 18:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't have a massive scumread on anyone, the strongest read I have is on df, and it's just a normal kind of scum read. To townread Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 20:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm ready to just say fuck it, DF was town all along, Hapa took advantage of the quick wagon on DF to inject confusion into the thread and peace out.
That pretty much explains the clusterfuck that Palmar was able to cobble together too, because everyone was pointing fingers at everyone else at the time.
On a semi-related note, I think the breakdown in communication is that DF called what Stan did a 180, where he just voted for DF for no reason. There wasn't any flip in opinion, it was just verbiage that was misused and caused a bunch of confusion. To back to scumread for some association reason. Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 20:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ugh, or DF is mafia and Hapa didn't think the bus vote he cast super early would lead to a potentially lethal deathwagon.
:/
I don't know I wish more people were here or cared. To both Hapa and DF being nice lynches. Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 21:51 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 21 2017 21:43 Palmar wrote:
I'm kinda okay with lynching into TW, Hapa, Kelsier, Chez and DF tomorrow I think I like this list.
There's the "I'm a confused townie that is really trying to understand this game" And then there's the "I'm a scumhead trying to feign confusion oh look I'm so confused." I'm starting to think, given your filter, you are going for the latter. Why, man?
I think Boson's on to something. He's written stuff like this multiple times
On November 21 2017 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:Ugh you guys killed HF? What happened to my beautiful DF wagon? 
Reminds me a lot of Kelscier's response to the lynch.
On November 21 2017 08:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Seems like there's a lot of action to read surrounding the lynch.
Am I to understand that Damdred claimed something on D1 NOT under threat of lynch? Did that happen?
He tries to make this a big deal for like 2 seconds and drops it. This doesn't make a lick of difference and he treats it like some big revelation
On November 21 2017 08:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya I still like Stan. His filter is short but meaningful.
I also categorically just disagree with this assessment. Not meaningful at all.
On November 21 2017 08:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ugh I wish I had been here to fight for DF lynch. My shift blows for flips, sry in advance team.
Oh look, he could've been around to fight for the DF lynch!
On November 21 2017 18:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't have a massive scumread on anyone, the strongest read I have is on df, and it's just a normal kind of scum read.
Remind everyone of your strongest scum read: me!
On November 21 2017 18:31 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 06:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Just park your vote on DF Koshi he's mafia. Just park your vote on, DF, Koshi, he's mafia. Just park. Your vote on. DF, Koshi is mafa! Just park your vote. On DF, Koshi is mafia! ........I don't see it, sry.
Yup, i'm definitely his #1 scum read.
On November 22 2017 12:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya okay sure TW lets go.
##Unvote
##Vote: Hapahauli
All of a sudden he's forgotten about his biggest scum read.
On November 23 2017 05:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Motherfucking there better be votes on Hapahauli when I get back.
Feels fake.
He was so enraged that his beautiful wagon on me didn't lynch me, that he didn't try to lynch me at all D2. /s He also just arbitrarily flip flops on me without interacting with me or inquiring about things that could make me town or mafia.
Plus his response to ruxxar makes no sense. If he thought Hapa was mafia for defending mafia!DF, he should try to lynch mafia!DF and not Hapa. His play lacks basic logic and if you look at his filter, he's interacting with other players less and less as the game goes farther (and it becomes harder to fake shit as mafia). His conclusions have been bad consistently.
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Like he's so insistent about one thing, and does not do that one thing.
His filter does not make any other intentions clear. Like idk what he thinks about the game now, except that Hapa was mafia... he wasn't.
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On November 25 2017 03:37 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2017 03:07 darthfoley wrote:Reread Boson's case + Show Spoiler +On November 22 2017 05:06 Z-BosoN wrote:VE, you're all over the place man. Chronology on HapaShow nested quote +On November 21 2017 08:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm pretty sure mafiaHapa doesn't "test" townies, but anyone is free to debunk my feelings there if there's hard evidence to the contrary. ** Whole bunch of no-hapa posts happen ** Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 20:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like....Hapa is really confusing in a really mafia sort of way. He noticed the same thing I noticed about darthfoley, which made me think DF was mafia, and seemed to make him think DF was mafia. However he then comes in and says it's some sort of test? Like, a bait and switch sort of thing? It's just way more likely that he's not reading the game at all and doesn't care. And that's mafia Hapa to me. Chronology on DFFrom regular scumread Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 18:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't have a massive scumread on anyone, the strongest read I have is on df, and it's just a normal kind of scum read. To townread Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 20:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm ready to just say fuck it, DF was town all along, Hapa took advantage of the quick wagon on DF to inject confusion into the thread and peace out.
That pretty much explains the clusterfuck that Palmar was able to cobble together too, because everyone was pointing fingers at everyone else at the time.
On a semi-related note, I think the breakdown in communication is that DF called what Stan did a 180, where he just voted for DF for no reason. There wasn't any flip in opinion, it was just verbiage that was misused and caused a bunch of confusion. To back to scumread for some association reason. Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 20:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ugh, or DF is mafia and Hapa didn't think the bus vote he cast super early would lead to a potentially lethal deathwagon.
:/
I don't know I wish more people were here or cared. To both Hapa and DF being nice lynches. Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 21:51 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 21 2017 21:43 Palmar wrote:
I'm kinda okay with lynching into TW, Hapa, Kelsier, Chez and DF tomorrow I think I like this list.
There's the "I'm a confused townie that is really trying to understand this game" And then there's the "I'm a scumhead trying to feign confusion oh look I'm so confused." I'm starting to think, given your filter, you are going for the latter. Why, man? I think Boson's on to something. He's written stuff like this multiple times On November 21 2017 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:Ugh you guys killed HF? What happened to my beautiful DF wagon? Reminds me a lot of Kelscier's response to the lynch. On November 21 2017 08:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Seems like there's a lot of action to read surrounding the lynch.
Am I to understand that Damdred claimed something on D1 NOT under threat of lynch? Did that happen? He tries to make this a big deal for like 2 seconds and drops it. This doesn't make a lick of difference and he treats it like some big revelation On November 21 2017 08:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya I still like Stan. His filter is short but meaningful. I also categorically just disagree with this assessment. Not meaningful at all. On November 21 2017 08:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ugh I wish I had been here to fight for DF lynch. My shift blows for flips, sry in advance team. Oh look, he could've been around to fight for the DF lynch! On November 21 2017 18:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't have a massive scumread on anyone, the strongest read I have is on df, and it's just a normal kind of scum read. Remind everyone of your strongest scum read: me! On November 21 2017 18:31 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 20 2017 06:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Just park your vote on DF Koshi he's mafia. Just park your vote on, DF, Koshi, he's mafia. Just park. Your vote on. DF, Koshi is mafa! Just park your vote. On DF, Koshi is mafia! ........I don't see it, sry. Yup, i'm definitely his #1 scum read. On November 22 2017 12:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ya okay sure TW lets go.
##Unvote
##Vote: Hapahauli All of a sudden he's forgotten about his biggest scum read. On November 23 2017 05:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Motherfucking there better be votes on Hapahauli when I get back. Feels fake. He was so enraged that his beautiful wagon on me didn't lynch me, that he didn't try to lynch me at all D2. /s He also just arbitrarily flip flops on me without interacting with me or inquiring about things that could make me town or mafia. Plus his response to ruxxar makes no sense. If he thought Hapa was mafia for defending mafia!DF, he should try to lynch mafia!DF and not Hapa. His play lacks basic logic and if you look at his filter, he's interacting with other players less and less as the game goes farther (and it becomes harder to fake shit as mafia). His conclusions have been bad consistently. I did the same thing too
Silence
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I'm going to be traveling for most of tomorrow before deadline. I might be able to check in here and there.
I propose we policy lynch Stan for his ninja vote + no posting in the actual thread (for the second day in a row). I'm only sort of joking. He actually has no reads which is why he isn't playing. Filter is butt cheeks. He bandwagoned day 1... and day 2... and day 3...
I'm a broken record at this point. Town has sucked thus far following Palmar's lead, so he's probably mafia. Koshi also probably mafia because of how lame he's playing. Honorable mention to TW.
But we should lynch Stanislav Petrov. So let's do that. It would be pretty silly to lynch me
#Vote: Stanislav Petrov
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On November 26 2017 11:58 Chezinu wrote:Kel, Dam, or Rux?
You
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On November 25 2017 05:29 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
I'm vibing that Palmar is mafia.
Yet you're voting for me you dunce.
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On November 25 2017 06:01 Stanislav Petrov wrote:Sorry. Fixed. Show nested quote +Day 1
Damdred: (0) Stanislav Petrov
KelsierSC: (0) ruXxar, Conversion
Darthfoley: (5) hapahauli, Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes, Chezinu, Stanislav Petrov, Koshi
Stanislav Petrov: (2) Conversion, Darthfoley, Damdred, hapahauli, tumblewood, ruxxar, darthfoley
Tumblewood: (1) KelsierSC, darthfoley
Koshi: (0) Ruxxar
Holyflare: (7) Z-BosoN, hapahauli, Palmar, Damdred, Conversion, darthfoley, Tumblewood
Not Voting: Holyflare
Holyflare is lynched.
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Day 2
KelsierSC: (1) Oatsmaster, Palmar, visceraeyes
Tumblewood: (3) kelsierSC, Hapahauli, Darthfoley
Hapahauli: (9) VisceraEyes, chezinu, stanislav petrov, Koshi, Palmar, Damdred, Conversion, ruXxar, Tumblewood
stanislav petrov: (0) Hapahauli, Darthfoley
Palmar: (0) Tumblewood
Hapahauli is lynched.
This man has a ONE page filter on D3. He spends his time coloring vote counts with no analysis.
He "vibes" that Palmar is mafia, yet votes me. His read on Hapa was bullshit, and his read on me is equally bullshit.
Outside of that, he doesn't actually have any reads.
Ding ding ding: I found mafia. The fact that Stan has played so shadily yet people refuse to vote on him after D1 makes me particularly sure he's just shit scum. The shenanigans onto HF made no sense and Palmar co-led that. Probably mafia? Maybe just terrible?
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This game is so demotivating.
Step 1) The same faces keep smugly making cases on people with little evidence
Step 2) Sheep blindly sheep
Step 3) Person flips town
Step 4) Repeat steps 1-3
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We've lost two blue roles and 2 VTs yet yall are just chilling and afk voting me with no explanation.
Like the 3 people who've voted on me have provided exactly two sentences of garbage logic. Fuck this game man
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I'll be around for a couple hours while I watch The Americans on Amazon Prime. Anyone who decides to grace the thread with their presence can talk to me
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Paging anyone that wants to play mafia: come play
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On November 26 2017 12:21 Damdred wrote:
Also at this moment what I am struggling with the kills is either tumble is the vig or the scum team has a vig.
I am leanig towards thw scum team has a vig and ve blocked him n1. Tumble isnt to curious if hes vig who his shot killed and neither ve or oats seemed to be on his scum pile.
Also if the scum team has a vig it means palmar is not on that team (i think)
I'm confident the vig shot or whatever it was is scum. Town vig would've claimed by now, especially someone like TW who's pretty suspicious. Unless town vig is just trolling.
I kinda agree about Ruxx. He has not seemed very interested in the game after D1. Unfortunately you can say the same thing about many people. Some people have apparently never cared about this game (or they're pretending to not care)
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On November 26 2017 12:18 Damdred wrote:
im here df, today has been demltivated didnt want to spam the thread while I was waiting on people.
Ok so, I sort of am ok with voting stan off here but rux is bother me more today, I am a hypocrit and I am ok with that. But rux who loves to be in the middle of everything and lead activity has kinda fallen by thw wayside here, the d1 lynch om hf seemed so apathetic and halfhearted in retrospect.
Eh its just bothing me atm.
I really just don't understand the HF lynch at all. It was 5-5 me and stan and all of a sudden big dick Palmar and VE come in and get everyone to switch off. Refuse to vote for Stan.
Only explanation I can think of is that scum pulled a cheeky play and decided that shenanigans onto HF was more productive for their end goal than just lynching me. I should really go back and read EoD1
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On November 26 2017 12:39 Damdred wrote:
Like Conversion is still a super question mark in the game, he was a little edgey earlier but he really hasnt tried to solve much, kinda just exists. Also tries to buddy up to people a bit.
Rux refusing to move off stan could be distancing if he or stan flips and he really didnt try to save hf even though he townread him. A bit shady imo
Yea the thing I found most confusing was Ruxxar claiming to want to save me really badly but he didn't move onto HF. Just stayed on Stan. I know it ended up being 7-5-2 iirc, but with shenanigans idk why he felt so confident not voting to save me (voting HF) after claiming he really wanted me alive or something
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Koshi also doesn't give a fuck about game state though. He and Palmar are still defacto town leaders even though they've been done jack shit.
At least one of TW/Palmar has to be scum I think. It's hard to believe that HF wagon is pure.
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TW made some comment about Palmar near EoD1 that really felt odd. Palmar called him out on it and said that Tumblewood was like 70% mafia or something but Palmar has ignored him ever since. Super shady. Lemme find it
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On November 21 2017 05:03 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 05:00 Tumblewood wrote:On November 21 2017 04:34 Palmar wrote:
I like this conversion guy. Think I’ll sheep him nah, i don't believe palmar comes back to the thread an hour before deadline and conversion is the guy he sheeps This is a garbage comment btw.
On November 21 2017 05:05 Palmar wrote:TW is like 70% mafia for that comment alone Hf is maybe 60% but has a larger wagon and well... lynching hf is always fun. I get to call him trash in the thread for the rest of the game even if he flips town and he can't say shit back  Of the two leading wagons I don't think I want to kill either of them, but I've been doing this for like 15 minutes so.
This interaction struck me as odd at the time and even weirder in hindsight. Palmar has continued to scum read TW but he hasn't voted for him or pushed him as a lynch, and his reasoning for voting Hapa is really bland and generic. Palmar's probably mafia.
On November 21 2017 05:36 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 05:35 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 21 2017 05:35 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2017 05:33 Conversion wrote:
well I wanted DF alive and stan lynched, so I got one of those things
sorry HF No need hf played like shit Are we lynching me tomorrow? 100% or TW
On November 21 2017 05:38 Palmar wrote:
btw, I think the following people are town:
ruxxar, conversion, damdred, z-boson, stan
The following are meh
oats
the following are scummy
tw
everyone else I have no opinion on yet. I'll read some more maybe tonight, maybe tomorrow. Had to kinda work hard here to create this mess. Games don't get fucked up by themselves, someone's gotta do the dirty work.
On November 21 2017 17:22 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 09:40 Conversion wrote:
tbh that hf lynch was a total crapshoot and just makes wveryone (including me) who lynched scummy. I should have used my head and realized that df dying or stan dying was the best outcome since it gives us info It only really makes TW scummy for his weird strategy bullshit and hesitancy around the vote.People keep forgetting that it's townies who do retarded shit and run around like headless chicken. Who do you think is more likely to jump on my terrible wagon that mafia knows is town? Suddenly an experienced player brim filled with confidence starts yelling at everyone in the thread to lynch some dude. Who is more likely to blindly follow, mafia (who knows I'm wrong) or town (who's just looking for a lynch.... any lynch). I'm inclined to believe most of the people who followed me are town. I'm kinda upgrading Oats to town too, but I'm definitely missing at least one mafia in my town reads (as I always do). But that's mostly fine because it's higher % chance of success by hunting mafia in my scumreads.
On November 21 2017 18:07 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 18:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
They were all confused. I just shook my head. Can you explain your massive scumreads on Koshi and TW?
He asks VE who he's been agreeing with and town reading to explain his scum read on someone (TW) that he's been scum reading for days. This is basically exactly what people were accusing me of D1. Except this is D2. Why does Palmar need an explanation from his town read on why his town read is scum reading the same person as him?
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