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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 20 2017 17:30 GMT
#401
On November 21 2017 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:
damdred am i town?

Zerg for Life
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
November 20 2017 17:36 GMT
#402
On November 21 2017 01:27 Conversion wrote:
I don't like the fact that no one is calling me stupid/bad and that darthfoley is agreeing with me

probably amounts to nothing, but I don't like it

i don't think this is a post scum!conv makes. feels kinda silly but feels right.
good times for all
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 20 2017 17:37 GMT
#403
##Unvote Darthfoley
##Vote Sanislav Petrov

Darthfoley was a test.
Stanislav Petrov failed.
Holyflare failed.
Tumblewood gets a D-.

Stanislav Petrov is all-over-the-place, is throwing shade, and isn't pushing anything coherent. Shortly after giving a lynch list of...
On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along.

Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests.

Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on.

Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick.


I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me.
Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers

... he blind sheeps the darthfoley wagon without really ever pushing it. His next two posts are pushing the wagon without really contributing or attempting to figure out darthfoley:
On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care?

You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him.


...and pushing two other players while having his vote on darthfoley.
On November 21 2017 02:20 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
I intended to me more active but I've been having a fever with a killer headache so I've just done some casual reading and lurking. But I'll be here aswell untill the lynch aswell but as of now I don't see a reason to switch target.

Oat's have definitely been getting away with doing the bare minimum, spam, unserious accusations and asking non-important questions in a 2 page filter.

On Conversation. If he hadn't voted me I'd say he's done nothing but throw questions into the air and hope somebody else picked them up and pushed them for him which is scum play. But he did vote me but looking at that because it also feels ungenuine to me. He sheeped Kelsier for the case and didn't aggressively accuse me of being scum as much as he voted me as a parking vote to pressure me to come back and explain something fairly non-important. And has no other scumreads. I don't like that it feels like he's both pushing me superhard by singling me out as his only scumread and at the same time isn't pressuring me hard at all but just says come back and explain this and until you do I'll have an alibi for voting you.


a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 20 2017 17:38 GMT
#404
Holyflare failed because he's doing the thing where he's being overly antagonistic to his scumreads without trying to be productive. I have generally disliked the way he has pushed DF.

Tumblewood looks bad, but also seems super-lynchbaity. Someone tell me about him so I don't have to tunnel him for the next billion hours.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
November 20 2017 17:38 GMT
#405
On November 21 2017 01:27 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 01:04 Tumblewood wrote:
On November 21 2017 00:47 Holyflare wrote:
On November 21 2017 00:36 darthfoley wrote:
VE, Ruxx, Conversion maybe HF town

HF can you explain how Ruxx is "looking in the wrong places" or whatever you said? Examples etc


Didn't like his questioning on stan or whatever his name is. Was quite obvious he meant that damdred, if mafia, would have a good town read on ruxxar.

Then his posts he picks out throughout the game just seem really odd. He presses the kelsier point far too much and like I said in my post earlier to you, what is mafia kelsier's motive to lie about a post that stuck out from the thread? Seems really fucking stupid to do and a stupid line of questioning.

He's just picking on things that don't align in my mind with what a towny would pick on. His scum list is basically that he couldn't understand a basic stan read and kelsier bs.

ok i know you said rux was town for dumbtelling, but that seems to have disappeared and you also called ve conftown for the same thing. why is rux not conftown in your mind?


This is weird when hf has already said why he doesn't like rux.

it's not weird. i want to know why hf's reasons for scumminess override something that can make someone conftown.
good times for all
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 20 2017 17:39 GMT
#406
@Ruxx who do you feel most confident lynching besides Koshi?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 20 2017 17:43 GMT
#407
On November 21 2017 02:24 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 02:13 ruXxar wrote:
On November 21 2017 01:59 darthfoley wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
all these people off wagon saying I shouldn't be lynched without really providing alternatives.+ Show Spoiler +
shocking


Let’s get a koshi lynch going baby. You know you want to.


I love a good Belgian spanking. Why Koshi over Oats/TW/Stan?


Mm.
Oats is a crap shoot right now. I’m not lynching him until I get more data.
Will see tomorrow.

For the other two, I feel like koshi has been more actively useless, and refuses to give us anything to work with.
No reasoning, town hunting or scum hunting at all.

I know this meta read might be a very personal one since I caught him for the same thing in a previous mafia game.
I have a very strong gut feeling.

That being said, we have to consolidate so gonna jump on Stan or TW soon.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Stanislav Petrov
Profile Joined October 2012
Russian Federation21 Posts
November 20 2017 17:43 GMT
#408
Okey I'll adress this exactly ones because it's taking up way to much threadspace.
Why I think darthfoley is mafia.
1)There was the Boson contradiction
2)His only reads are town
3)His not lynching chez post (Yes it's an unserious joke but mafia are more inclined to write a excuse for doing something both because they have a desire to guard themselves from any inqusitive people before they ask and because since they don't have genuine thoughts they write down their reason so they don't forget themselves)

The first 2 are the major points and they had been stated by others, It add's nothing for me to say it again or by rephrasing it slightly so it looks like my own thoughts.

4)So far darthfoley has still not tried to make a case on anybody else despite being the lynchcandiate.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 20 2017 17:45 GMT
#409
On November 21 2017 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
ruxxar and conversion both seem scummy to me . I don't know if they are trying to get a wagon off df for cred or trying to save a partner. Either way it probably makes Stan town.


You’re damn right I’m trying to save DF.
The guy is super town.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 20 2017 17:48 GMT
#410
.............................................................

that was so false and flailing that i'm not going to respond
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 20 2017 17:48 GMT
#411
nvm i'm going to have to eviserate this man
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Z-BosoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil2590 Posts
November 20 2017 17:52 GMT
#412
On November 21 2017 02:37 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote Darthfoley
##Vote Sanislav Petrov

Darthfoley was a test.
Stanislav Petrov failed.
Holyflare failed.
Tumblewood gets a D-.

Stanislav Petrov is all-over-the-place, is throwing shade, and isn't pushing anything coherent. Shortly after giving a lynch list of...
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along.

Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests.

Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on.

Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick.


I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me.
Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers

... he blind sheeps the darthfoley wagon without really ever pushing it. His next two posts are pushing the wagon without really contributing or attempting to figure out darthfoley:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care?

You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him.


...and pushing two other players while having his vote on darthfoley.
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 02:20 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
I intended to me more active but I've been having a fever with a killer headache so I've just done some casual reading and lurking. But I'll be here aswell untill the lynch aswell but as of now I don't see a reason to switch target.

Oat's have definitely been getting away with doing the bare minimum, spam, unserious accusations and asking non-important questions in a 2 page filter.

On Conversation. If he hadn't voted me I'd say he's done nothing but throw questions into the air and hope somebody else picked them up and pushed them for him which is scum play. But he did vote me but looking at that because it also feels ungenuine to me. He sheeped Kelsier for the case and didn't aggressively accuse me of being scum as much as he voted me as a parking vote to pressure me to come back and explain something fairly non-important. And has no other scumreads. I don't like that it feels like he's both pushing me superhard by singling me out as his only scumread and at the same time isn't pressuring me hard at all but just says come back and explain this and until you do I'll have an alibi for voting you.




So, heuristically I think that Stan would have been less all-over-the-place if he was mafia. He seems like a newer player not sure where to move next. I'd place him in the same category as TW: kinda mafia looking, kinda lynch-baity looking.

Holyflare has done little but tunnel darthfoley, who was already leading in votes. I'm not sure what the townie motivation there is there. He looks a lot more scummy in his defensiveness to my eyes.

I would also be down for an oatsmaster lynch. Please look at his filter and agree.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 17:53 GMT
#413
On November 21 2017 02:43 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Okey I'll adress this exactly ones because it's taking up way to much threadspace.
Why I think darthfoley is mafia.
1)There was the Boson contradiction
2)His only reads are town
3)His not lynching chez post (Yes it's an unserious joke but mafia are more inclined to write a excuse for doing something both because they have a desire to guard themselves from any inqusitive people before they ask and because since they don't have genuine thoughts they write down their reason so they don't forget themselves)

The first 2 are the major points and they had been stated by others, It add's nothing for me to say it again or by rephrasing it slightly so it looks like my own thoughts.

4)So far darthfoley has still not tried to make a case on anybody else despite being the lynchcandiate.


What boson contradictio. exactly?

2 and 3 do t make people scum... and four he has stated his reads which contradict point two anyway.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 20 2017 17:53 GMT
#414
Stanislav are you new to this game? Are you a smurf?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 20 2017 17:53 GMT
#415
On November 21 2017 02:43 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Okey I'll adress this exactly ones because it's taking up way to much threadspace.
Why I think darthfoley is mafia.
1)There was the Boson contradiction
2)His only reads are town
3)His not lynching chez post (Yes it's an unserious joke but mafia are more inclined to write a excuse for doing something both because they have a desire to guard themselves from any inqusitive people before they ask and because since they don't have genuine thoughts they write down their reason so they don't forget themselves)

The first 2 are the major points and they had been stated by others, It add's nothing for me to say it again or by rephrasing it slightly so it looks like my own thoughts.

4)So far darthfoley has still not tried to make a case on anybody else despite being the lynchcandiate.


1) This is not a big deal. I write down my thoughts as I play and I wanted to ask Boson a question. This is also not an original point by you so whatever

2) Just false

3) Lol, not your original point and also not a good point.

4) Also false
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 17:54 GMT
#416
On November 21 2017 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:
damdred am i town?



Idk, dont have a read on you. And honestly i do t like your stan read at all.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 20 2017 17:55 GMT
#417
On November 21 2017 02:52 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 02:37 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote Darthfoley
##Vote Sanislav Petrov

Darthfoley was a test.
Stanislav Petrov failed.
Holyflare failed.
Tumblewood gets a D-.

Stanislav Petrov is all-over-the-place, is throwing shade, and isn't pushing anything coherent. Shortly after giving a lynch list of...
On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along.

Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests.

Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on.

Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick.


I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me.
Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers

... he blind sheeps the darthfoley wagon without really ever pushing it. His next two posts are pushing the wagon without really contributing or attempting to figure out darthfoley:
On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care?

You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him.


...and pushing two other players while having his vote on darthfoley.
On November 21 2017 02:20 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
I intended to me more active but I've been having a fever with a killer headache so I've just done some casual reading and lurking. But I'll be here aswell untill the lynch aswell but as of now I don't see a reason to switch target.

Oat's have definitely been getting away with doing the bare minimum, spam, unserious accusations and asking non-important questions in a 2 page filter.

On Conversation. If he hadn't voted me I'd say he's done nothing but throw questions into the air and hope somebody else picked them up and pushed them for him which is scum play. But he did vote me but looking at that because it also feels ungenuine to me. He sheeped Kelsier for the case and didn't aggressively accuse me of being scum as much as he voted me as a parking vote to pressure me to come back and explain something fairly non-important. And has no other scumreads. I don't like that it feels like he's both pushing me superhard by singling me out as his only scumread and at the same time isn't pressuring me hard at all but just says come back and explain this and until you do I'll have an alibi for voting you.




So, heuristically I think that Stan would have been less all-over-the-place if he was mafia. He seems like a newer player not sure where to move next. I'd place him in the same category as TW: kinda mafia looking, kinda lynch-baity looking.

Holyflare has done little but tunnel darthfoley, who was already leading in votes. I'm not sure what the townie motivation there is there. He looks a lot more scummy in his defensiveness to my eyes.

I would also be down for an oatsmaster lynch. Please look at his filter and agree.


You think oats filter is bad? Try reading koshi.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 20 2017 17:55 GMT
#418
On November 21 2017 02:54 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 21 2017 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:
damdred am i town?



Idk, dont have a read on you. And honestly i do t like your stan read at all.


damdred is probably mafia,

if he is town he 100% reads me as town at this point.
Zerg for Life
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 20 2017 17:56 GMT
#419
I definitely thought Petrov was a smurf but idk. His play reminds me of my first game on TL which I also rolled scum
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 20 2017 17:56 GMT
#420
On November 21 2017 02:52 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 02:37 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote Darthfoley
##Vote Sanislav Petrov

Darthfoley was a test.
Stanislav Petrov failed.
Holyflare failed.
Tumblewood gets a D-.

Stanislav Petrov is all-over-the-place, is throwing shade, and isn't pushing anything coherent. Shortly after giving a lynch list of...
On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along.

Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests.

Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on.

Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick.


I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me.
Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers

... he blind sheeps the darthfoley wagon without really ever pushing it. His next two posts are pushing the wagon without really contributing or attempting to figure out darthfoley:
On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care?

You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him.


...and pushing two other players while having his vote on darthfoley.
On November 21 2017 02:20 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
I intended to me more active but I've been having a fever with a killer headache so I've just done some casual reading and lurking. But I'll be here aswell untill the lynch aswell but as of now I don't see a reason to switch target.

Oat's have definitely been getting away with doing the bare minimum, spam, unserious accusations and asking non-important questions in a 2 page filter.

On Conversation. If he hadn't voted me I'd say he's done nothing but throw questions into the air and hope somebody else picked them up and pushed them for him which is scum play. But he did vote me but looking at that because it also feels ungenuine to me. He sheeped Kelsier for the case and didn't aggressively accuse me of being scum as much as he voted me as a parking vote to pressure me to come back and explain something fairly non-important. And has no other scumreads. I don't like that it feels like he's both pushing me superhard by singling me out as his only scumread and at the same time isn't pressuring me hard at all but just says come back and explain this and until you do I'll have an alibi for voting you.




So, heuristically I think that Stan would have been less all-over-the-place if he was mafia. He seems like a newer player not sure where to move next. I'd place him in the same category as TW: kinda mafia looking, kinda lynch-baity looking.

Holyflare has done little but tunnel darthfoley, who was already leading in votes. I'm not sure what the townie motivation there is there. He looks a lot more scummy in his defensiveness to my eyes.

I would also be down for an oatsmaster lynch. Please look at his filter and agree.


Oats is behaving like oats. It's been a while since I've played with him, but all his games are pretty one-linery-ish, incoherent, spammy, etc. What specifically about him is damning?
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