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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 19 2017 05:18 GMT
#133
On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux

is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.

Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?

Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.



Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of.
Rux is... ? Is this a meta read?

As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary.


You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.

Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 14:52 GMT
#304
Hiya, im here now and should be all day.

DF usually you are more aggressive especially about not getting lynched, what is happening? and what do you thinl about anyone in the game?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 15:14 GMT
#316
On November 21 2017 00:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2017 23:52 darthfoley wrote:
On November 20 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
On November 19 2017 14:18 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux

is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.

Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?

Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.



Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of.
Rux is... ? Is this a meta read?

As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary.


You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.

Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.


Complete polar opposite to how he looks to me.


This is something I actually agree with. Isn't this exactly the same justification he used last game on ruxx when he was mafia lol

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On November 20 2017 00:37 darthfoley wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:31 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Ruxx and Boson are probably Town


Is this “Ruxx is town” echo chamber related to his meta? O feel like Im missing something.

I feel like Im missing something.

Also, what are your thoughts on Tumblewood and holyflare?


I think Damdred's point on ruxx is decent plus his questioning of Kelsier is what i know to be town!Ruxx.

TW i always think is scummy and it's the same this game. I only remember one comment by HF about mafia number game setup mechanics which is scummy.



??????



I think this is a bit mialeading hf, the second quote came before the first after all.

He clearly liked my three mafia makes rux town read and didnt like the playful read I gave later to justify/add to my rux read.

Shame shame.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 15:15 GMT
#319
On November 21 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Mafia in Stan, Oats, and TW. Honorable mention to Hapa


But which one?

or all three/four?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 15:18 GMT
#324
On November 21 2017 00:16 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 00:14 Damdred wrote:
On November 21 2017 00:04 Holyflare wrote:
On November 20 2017 23:52 darthfoley wrote:
On November 20 2017 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
On November 19 2017 14:18 Damdred wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:28 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 12:20 Damdred wrote:
Chez
Boson
Rux

is the start of an amazing if not marginally insane town circle.

Conversion, does anything give you pause or make you wonder yet?

Boson I would agree that his defensiveness moves him up/down in neutral. I am more interested in seeing him really defend the position on the lynch order.



Just for curiosity, why is Rux on this list? I've strong town vibes from Chezinu unless his mafia is an evil best not spoken of.
Rux is... ? Is this a meta read?

As to his lynch order, it would be more relevant how he pursues it I'd say. Though I do want to understand why you and KeslierSC are at the top of his list. Seems kind of arbitrary.


You know those dumb reads you sonetimes get and just know they are right? Rux is playful and doesnt seem to have much in the way of motives.

Plus what I said earlier about us joking around and about the number of scum etc., its dumb and suoer early but his attitude and all make me not want to lynch him today and think of him as town.


Complete polar opposite to how he looks to me.


This is something I actually agree with. Isn't this exactly the same justification he used last game on ruxx when he was mafia lol

On November 20 2017 00:37 darthfoley wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:31 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 20 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Ruxx and Boson are probably Town


Is this “Ruxx is town” echo chamber related to his meta? O feel like Im missing something.

I feel like Im missing something.

Also, what are your thoughts on Tumblewood and holyflare?


I think Damdred's point on ruxx is decent plus his questioning of Kelsier is what i know to be town!Ruxx.

TW i always think is scummy and it's the same this game. I only remember one comment by HF about mafia number game setup mechanics which is scummy.



??????



I think this is a bit mialeading hf, the second quote came before the first after all.

He clearly liked my three mafia makes rux town read and didnt like the playful read I gave later to justify/add to my rux read.

Shame shame.


No, I simply thought he agreed with all of your reads on ruxxar and somehow has just backtracked. Turns out it was just the first part and I misread his post. No shame.


Ill allow this, you know he has a point about Oats though. Really sort of low energy for him and seems content on df besides a couple bursts of postings. What do you think?

Halfway reminds me of his scum game being content
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 15:26 GMT
#330
On November 21 2017 00:20 Holyflare wrote:
Why did you say ruxx looks like he's having fun, damd?


I felt like our initial interaction he was really loose and was happy and playful with me. I read it as having fun, his later posts werent necessarily fun though and honestly hes lacking some of the pop he usually has. I miss ruxxy
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 15:37 GMT
#336
On November 21 2017 00:28 darthfoley wrote:
Meh. Idk who is more scummy.

Let's vote Petrov and see what the wind blows

##Vote: Stanislav Petrov


Ill ride with this for now and see where it goes.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 16:11 GMT
#349
On November 21 2017 01:09 KelsierSC wrote:
First outcome would be I don't want to lynch oats, I had his name down because it had come up in the thread a few times but I actually like the vibe I get from him and he posted a few things that I found myself nodding to so he's ok.

I don't want to lynch stan, I initially didn't like how he just came out of nowhere and voted darth when the pressure was on darth. But thinking about it more and reading Stan I get the impression that he isn't trying to make friends or hang back and blend in . He was pretty aggressive early on and then just comes out of nowhere with no justification and puts the vote out there.If i'm mafia in that situation I probably say something like
"oh kelsier was scummy but seems ok now and I like the pressure people have put on df so have him as scum"
Yeh I like Stan as town the more I think about it.




I need you to show how this is true from stans filter
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 16:13 GMT
#350
me and df should just hydra while we are tag teaming kels post high and low.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 16:40 GMT
#372
Kel I require you nit to ignore me and expand right now on your stan read with examples. Because it reads like total bullshit
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 16:52 GMT
#381
On November 21 2017 01:45 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 01:41 Koshi wrote:
Opened hapa and palmar tgeir filter. Then decided to open hf filter against better judgement. Now I am very sad.

I have it on good authority that there are 3 mafia. So it is ok to ml a couple times.

This is all the help I will give town today. Maybe I will be mpre generous in future days.


What does this even mean


Its impossible to know, trust me I asked
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 17:53 GMT
#413
On November 21 2017 02:43 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Okey I'll adress this exactly ones because it's taking up way to much threadspace.
Why I think darthfoley is mafia.
1)There was the Boson contradiction
2)His only reads are town
3)His not lynching chez post (Yes it's an unserious joke but mafia are more inclined to write a excuse for doing something both because they have a desire to guard themselves from any inqusitive people before they ask and because since they don't have genuine thoughts they write down their reason so they don't forget themselves)

The first 2 are the major points and they had been stated by others, It add's nothing for me to say it again or by rephrasing it slightly so it looks like my own thoughts.

4)So far darthfoley has still not tried to make a case on anybody else despite being the lynchcandiate.


What boson contradictio. exactly?

2 and 3 do t make people scum... and four he has stated his reads which contradict point two anyway.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 17:54 GMT
#416
On November 21 2017 02:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 01:51 KelsierSC wrote:
damdred am i town?



Idk, dont have a read on you. And honestly i do t like your stan read at all.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 17:59 GMT
#422
On November 21 2017 02:56 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 02:52 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 21 2017 02:37 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote Darthfoley
##Vote Sanislav Petrov

Darthfoley was a test.
Stanislav Petrov failed.
Holyflare failed.
Tumblewood gets a D-.

Stanislav Petrov is all-over-the-place, is throwing shade, and isn't pushing anything coherent. Shortly after giving a lynch list of...
On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately

Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association.

Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!


If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along.

Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests.

Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on.

Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick.


I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me.
Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers

... he blind sheeps the darthfoley wagon without really ever pushing it. His next two posts are pushing the wagon without really contributing or attempting to figure out darthfoley:
On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care?

You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him.


...and pushing two other players while having his vote on darthfoley.
On November 21 2017 02:20 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
I intended to me more active but I've been having a fever with a killer headache so I've just done some casual reading and lurking. But I'll be here aswell untill the lynch aswell but as of now I don't see a reason to switch target.

Oat's have definitely been getting away with doing the bare minimum, spam, unserious accusations and asking non-important questions in a 2 page filter.

On Conversation. If he hadn't voted me I'd say he's done nothing but throw questions into the air and hope somebody else picked them up and pushed them for him which is scum play. But he did vote me but looking at that because it also feels ungenuine to me. He sheeped Kelsier for the case and didn't aggressively accuse me of being scum as much as he voted me as a parking vote to pressure me to come back and explain something fairly non-important. And has no other scumreads. I don't like that it feels like he's both pushing me superhard by singling me out as his only scumread and at the same time isn't pressuring me hard at all but just says come back and explain this and until you do I'll have an alibi for voting you.




So, heuristically I think that Stan would have been less all-over-the-place if he was mafia. He seems like a newer player not sure where to move next. I'd place him in the same category as TW: kinda mafia looking, kinda lynch-baity looking.

Holyflare has done little but tunnel darthfoley, who was already leading in votes. I'm not sure what the townie motivation there is there. He looks a lot more scummy in his defensiveness to my eyes.

I would also be down for an oatsmaster lynch. Please look at his filter and agree.


Oats is behaving like oats. It's been a while since I've played with him, but all his games are pretty one-linery-ish, incoherent, spammy, etc. What specifically about him is damning?


Last three or four games hes been hyperactive oats with the wffort.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 18:11 GMT
#431
So lets see

DF
Me
Kel
Bos

Rux
Conversiom
Chez

Those are my towns atm, hf could be near there but yeah. Kels reaction to a null read is mu h likelier to come from his town self imo
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 18:36 GMT
#444
Just from my place I dont want ro lynch tw today, I feel bad about being hard om him and always having his alignment wrong.

However I could be tempted into a Palmar or Koshi lynch. If we dont stick with stan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 18:40 GMT
#447
Focus ruxxy, tell me something interesting.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 18:46 GMT
#448
I think it is a bad post but not scum indicative.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 19:24 GMT
#474
On November 21 2017 03:47 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2017 03:46 Damdred wrote:
I think it is a bad post but not scum indicative.


Why not? Off wagon person telling the rest to not screw up is Town indicative?


Its null at worst imo, if you want to make a case based off everything kel did im listening but this one incedent isnt enough.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
November 20 2017 19:27 GMT
#481
Darth is town though I believe, so nope I think Stan is a good place for me.

We can talk kel tonight if you make it df.
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