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first off, @Kelsier,.I feel like voting on the largest wagon without explaining why they're scummy, saying they're instantly the most suspicious person with 0 references in their filter to said person is the textbook definition of hanging back and trying to blend in.
On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately  Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association. Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho!
also, trying not to make friends? he has like 5 posts and you're trying to do some deeep reading that I'm not seeing from reading his filter.
then all of a sudden you don't like me even though I'm clearing pressuring someone who's play looks scummy? wtf lol
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I'm just going to ignore the fact that you haven't really pressured anyone either and mirror Damdred's sentiment here
On November 21 2017 01:11 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 01:09 KelsierSC wrote:
First outcome would be I don't want to lynch oats, I had his name down because it had come up in the thread a few times but I actually like the vibe I get from him and he posted a few things that I found myself nodding to so he's ok.
I don't want to lynch stan, I initially didn't like how he just came out of nowhere and voted darth when the pressure was on darth. But thinking about it more and reading Stan I get the impression that he isn't trying to make friends or hang back and blend in . He was pretty aggressive early on and then just comes out of nowhere with no justification and puts the vote out there.If i'm mafia in that situation I probably say something like
"oh kelsier was scummy but seems ok now and I like the pressure people have put on df so have him as scum"
Yeh I like Stan as town the more I think about it.
I need you to show how this is true from stans filter
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then we can agree to disagree there
On November 20 2017 03:51 KelsierSC wrote:Darth and Ruxxar are probably worth taking a look at. The feeling I get from rux is that he is asking people to justify or explain things that aren't that difficult to comprehend. It felt like he trying to give the illusion of activity. Show nested quote +On November 19 2017 20:49 ruXxar wrote:On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association. I dont like this post. Its cramming too many thoughts into one post where it ends up being unlegible garbage. I'm not even sure I know what stance you are taking with this. On November 19 2017 08:10 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Actually going to revise what I said, Kelsier was behaving suspiciously in his post at Ruxxar, not with Ruxxar.
Though nothing says they're opposite alignments either.
TLDR Kelsier bad, Ruxxar null. This followup isnt helping when I can't understand the argument you made in the first place. This followed up by asking me to explain a feeling read, I don't know how you can explain feelings. Then again I really didn't like anything darth posted and it felt like he was just trying to mimic thread opinion and almost try and pocket rux. Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 00:18 darthfoley wrote:On November 19 2017 21:03 ruXxar wrote:On November 19 2017 19:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Maybe because it's the latest thing in the thread but Tumblewood's posts seemed really off and had a jarring effect on me.
"jarring effect"... The dude has barely posted 3 lines in total. Care to explain what you mean? Good guy Ruxx Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 00:39 darthfoley wrote:
I still don't think Kelsier's explanation of TWs posts have been explained or believable. Like 3 one liners is not enough material to be considered jarring IMO. Makes it sound like a much more solid read than it actually is.
Maybe I'm just roasting the dude over word choice, but word choice matters Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 00:37 darthfoley wrote:On November 20 2017 00:31 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 20 2017 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
Ruxx and Boson are probably Town Is this “Ruxx is town” echo chamber related to his meta? O feel like Im missing something. I feel like Im missing something. Also, what are your thoughts on Tumblewood and holyflare? I think Damdred's point on ruxx is decent plus his questioning of Kelsier is what i know to be town!Ruxx. TW i always think is scummy and it's the same this game. I only remember one comment by HF about mafia number game setup mechanics which is scummy. darth perhaps you can explain why I have to give a full explanation for my TW read which you don't think I have enough basis for, but you can also read TW as scummy. I probably have darth as my top lynch. I doubt that mafia darth would link up with mafia rux that hard so perhaps rux is ok I just don't think his questions are that useful.
can I ask you why you have darth as your top lynch at this point in time, yet you wouldn't vote to pressure him?
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DF can you explain your TW read? or rehash it if you did already
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I don't like the fact that no one is calling me stupid/bad and that darthfoley is agreeing with me
probably amounts to nothing, but I don't like it
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because he hacked my account and read my role PM. it said town
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we'd all have to consolidate onto the same separate wagon to beat this DF train though
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and yet you still fail to explain your DF read.. can you stop deflecting onto irrelevant fluff and answer the question you acknowledged in your long paragraph of nothing against me?
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like OMGUS'ing me and telling a bunch of interpretations to my post when your effort could have been better spent on explaining why you went from this:
On November 19 2017 08:45 Stanislav Petrov wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2017 08:39 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 19 2017 07:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:Lets just lynch Damdred for prodding Oats and backing off immediately Kelsier & Ruxxar look like they're doing scummy stuff together. Though without confirming if Ruxxar's game history is true, I rather slightly liked Damdreds point on dumb-telling. But ofcourse Damdred would know if Ruxxar was town since Damdred would know all the scum through association. Z-bozon I like what you're doing, let's get along muchacho! If you can tell us your mafia buddies, I will be more than glad to just chill and get along. Ignore the other person that called you retarded, he's just that mean. Cooperating with us is in your best interests. Btw, let's not get too deep into these web of associations this early on. Who would you choose as scum out of KelsierSC/Ruxxar/Damdred? One pick. I'd love to be able to oblige you but since I'm not mafia I can't. Truly saddens me. Right now the order I'd like to lynch in is Damdred->KelsierSC->One of the lurkers
to this:
On November 20 2017 08:53 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
##Vote: darthfoley
On November 20 2017 18:28 Stanislav Petrov wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2017 14:46 Tumblewood wrote:
@hf: why is the df wagon okay despite no one trying to stop it? your reasons seem to amount to "he looks scummy", which is fine i guess, but if it's just that he's scummy are you even considering how the wagon forms? like, what would it take to change your mind, or do you just not actually care? You're trying to stop it right now. The 'nobody is trying to stop it so therefore the accused is innocent' argument sound good in theory but has rarely proved accurate in my experience. And that's without considering how disastrous it would be to let that become meta. The facts are darthfoley is the most suspicious person, so we should lynch him.
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On November 21 2017 02:26 KelsierSC wrote:
ruxxar and conversion both seem scummy to me . I don't know if they are trying to get a wagon off df for cred or trying to save a partner. Either way it probably makes Stan town.
I'm not scum, so stop wasting your breath
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I've never defended Stan, nor will I back down from it.
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I'd be willing to switch to a TW lynch today, maybe. I'm at a maybe because I never read Tumblewood correctly in the two games I played him. and he seems scummy, again.
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On November 21 2017 04:04 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 00:30 darthfoley wrote:
@Oats what do you make of TW and Petrov?
@TW can you discuss someone who isnt me? I wanted to Lynch Petrov but you started posting and he's voting for you so yeah
let me try to understand this, oats
1) you wanted to lynch Petrov
2) DF posted, he looked scummier, so you then switched to DF
3) Petrov is voting DF, so adds to the reason why you switched to DF
is that correct?
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On November 21 2017 04:27 Damdred wrote:
Darth is town though I believe, so nope I think Stan is a good place for me.
We can talk kel tonight if you make it df.
I'll join in on this discussion if you allow me 
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well, frankly speaking, your wording was garbage which is why I was trying to get clarification. thanks for that
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There were no contextual clues to your garbage wording of that post, but I'm leaving it at that. go forth with your spammy scum hunting and I'll go along with mine. maybe we'll meet at an intersection down the road later in the game
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On November 21 2017 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Hey ruxxar and conversion I’m interested in what you think about z-boss’ hf case
dunno hf just generally seems very not-give-a-fuck and bored about mafia lately, so I don't think it's a particularly good case. didn't read into it too deeply/check HF's filter because I want stan lynched today
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@Palmar
Disconnect between his lynch list at one point (Damdred->Kels->Lurkers), randomly enters thread voting largest wagon in DF. When asked several times by everyone in the thread why this logical jump happened, he gave an excuse why he wasn't here and then tried to deflect onto me and someone else. then finally gave his reasons why DF was scum
finally gives his reasons, but most of them aren't very good reasons to read DF as scum. looks to be flailing around trying to justify his AFK vote now
On November 21 2017 02:43 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
Okey I'll adress this exactly ones because it's taking up way to much threadspace.
Why I think darthfoley is mafia.
1)There was the Boson contradiction
2)His only reads are town
3)His not lynching chez post (Yes it's an unserious joke but mafia are more inclined to write a excuse for doing something both because they have a desire to guard themselves from any inqusitive people before they ask and because since they don't have genuine thoughts they write down their reason so they don't forget themselves)
The first 2 are the major points and they had been stated by others, It add's nothing for me to say it again or by rephrasing it slightly so it looks like my own thoughts.
4)So far darthfoley has still not tried to make a case on anybody else despite being the lynchcandiate.
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On November 21 2017 04:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2017 04:54 Damdred wrote:On November 21 2017 04:50 Palmar wrote:On November 21 2017 04:45 Damdred wrote:On November 21 2017 04:43 Palmar wrote:
Hey ruxxar and conversion I’m interested in what you think about z-boss’ hf case Once palmar respected me, now he ignores me. Well in that case hf disagrees with you on Ruiz, but I kinda agree with you. I think rxx looks town. So you still exist in my world despite being at best a fancy prop. Fancy prop can be useful. Here is a dirty case on stan, His reads are inconsistent early game and some reads ie read on myself and rux just get dropped and never revisited. He also asks questions about myself and has no follow up and really does not seem to care. When the df wagon starts going at a decent pace he hops on without any real explanation, he then misrepresents df filter to try to overjustify his vote on df. He then dissapears obviously. This all sounds like clueless town. But I have nothing to back that up as I haven’t read a single post of his. Mafia people are generally too careful to fuck up that much
I want to believe this, but last game we had random double mafia bus that we found out was a big mistake on someone's end (was supposed to vote a townie, but ended up voting his godfather off)
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so now we're at 5/5/3 with HF not voting. he's most likely going to vote on the 5/5 wagon, so do we want to pressure him by consolidating onto him?
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EPT
