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On November 26 2017 12:54 darthfoley wrote:




This interaction struck me as odd at the time and even weirder in hindsight. Palmar has continued to scum read TW but he hasn't voted for him or pushed him as a lynch, and his reasoning for voting Hapa is really bland and generic. Palmar's probably mafia.









He asks VE who he's been agreeing with and town reading to explain his scum read on someone (TW) that he's been scum reading for days. This is basically exactly what people were accusing me of D1. Except this is D2. Why does Palmar need an explanation from his town read on why his town read is scum reading the same person as him?

On November 27 2017 02:57 Stanislav Petrov wrote:
It's impossible to distinguish apathy from scumplay. I myself have had almost no interest in this game after hapa flipped cop. I'm not judging anybody else who isn't chipping in after that. How do you motivate yourself to put in time and effort when the odds are enormously stacked against you.

darthfoley is almost guaranteed scum. He's active a but doesn't accomplish. The conclusions he's drawn throughout this game I don't feel are likely to drawn by a townie. Sure he could be tunneling convinced he's right and utterly incapable of taking a step back and properly analyzing the information he has. But it's far more likely he's mafia purposely tunneling pretending to be bad. Normal mafia tactic is to spread out during all-townie lynch targets and so far the people voting for him are SIGNIFICANTLY less scummy then the Stan/HF voters and most of them decent players. Nobody but scum advocates lynching a bread-crumbed townie as a top scumread.

One of his partners is Palmar.
Palmar was odd about the entire hapa lynch. The case on Hapa was solid and Palmar was behind that but still cracked comments like viscera get's HIS lynch which felt off. His other contribution to the game was sweeping in day 1, taking control of the lynch. I haven't played with Palmar for a few years but back then his style was finding townie behavior and then mafia by process of elimination. His day 1 reads aren't according to himself better then others and he's said so himself. So he knows his day 1 reads aren't great and yet decided that it's a good idea to swoop down without reading the thread at all and decide a new lynch candidate when half the vets in the game are behind lynching another person. And to that he just pays no mind? If I were town and I came into the thread just before the lynch and hadn't had opportunity to read the thread I would sheep the case most veterans were on. He doesn't do this and is essentially saying I know better then you without even reading. It doesn't fit with his style. As town he would have no reason to act so confident. Not to mention that he knows full well how bad last minute switches are in general and shouldn't be leading one without good reason which he did not have. It's far more likely he tried to save darthfoley, and even in some other bizarre universe where darthfoley is town so all lynchcandidates were town, then it's still a complete scummove because it makes the lynch generate less information and the town never gets to deal with the scummy looking townie, leaving him to continue diverting attention from real mafia.

On November 27 2017 04:28 Chezinu wrote:


I usually don't vote palmar.. ok, let's say you aren't mafia. What do you think about koshi?

Also (anyone can answer), what is the best guess of how many mafia there are? Cause right now if there are 3 mafia (as someone mentioned before), lynch is doomed right now.

We got about an hour. Now, is the time to do something.

On November 28 2017 02:08 ruXxar wrote:


The "why not" is the part that doesn't come from a scum mentality.
Scum don't do things just because "why not", they do things because they plan to do so. (rip zenmaster)

Maybe it wasnt all that risky once hapa and zbo was on HF, but if he's trying to save stan, why does he do that instead of going for DF who is leading in votes?

Unless DF and Palmar are scum together, in which case Palmar just wants to get either Stan or HF lynched.

As a solo scummer(not scum with DF or Stan), what palmar did makes no sense.

On November 28 2017 04:37 ruXxar wrote:


DF is clearly town unless CCd.
I dont think town has another power role, so if someone else was to claim his alignment would come into question.

Also I dont think palmar is scum.

Which leaves me at koshi/tw/stan/kelsier.