[M][N] Heroes of the Storm Mafia

On November 01 2017 07:53 Damerion wrote:
Shockey has the worst entrance tone wise, he complains on what reads llike a thread that is having fun in the early going (to me reads like totally town uo to that point).

He then makes another post about hoping he has more posts to work with when he geta back without adding to the game himself.

I am above 50% that he is scum at this point.

On November 01 2017 08:40 Damdred wrote:
Ehhhh I feel like shock is a trap vote though. I could see him saying it as town or scum.

Like, I dont want to lynch him right now based on what you said.

But like, I think Damer thought process and push makes him more than likely town besides the tone.

On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:


I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about.

Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary

Let me break down the bolded sentence for you
1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game
2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential
3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off?
4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy.

So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger

On November 01 2017 13:05 darthfoley wrote:


oh hey look, it's the guy that did the same shit last game when he was scum

On November 01 2017 13:09 darthfoley wrote:
I'm just gonna vote you for now

##Oatsmaster

On November 01 2017 13:09 darthfoley wrote:


Why would I look at your other games based off of one post? You're mighty defensive lol. Yea, i'm casually throwing shade. Because you did the same over-aggressive "i'm gonna be a dick" D1 strategy last game. This is mafia. People throw shade. Get over it

On November 01 2017 13:11 darthfoley wrote:
Still waiting for you to contribute anything meaningful to the game. Two vote posts and bickering is weak sauce from uber pro scum hunter Oatsmaster

On November 01 2017 13:07 darthfoley wrote:


Explaining why ruxxar's post is lame as hell and non-committal to the utmost. It's rather obvious what I was doing. Take your attitude elsewhere

On November 01 2017 13:16 darthfoley wrote:


I'm not irrationally scared. You won last game with a similar strategy D1. I am calling out that strategy in this game, for good reason. That's just simply the logical thing to do.

Do you expect me to ignore your scum meta from last game? For most people, changing up scum playstyle is much more difficult than changing up town playstyle. So the fact that your opening reminds me of last game makes it more likely to be scummy imo.

#logic

On November 01 2017 13:16 darthfoley wrote:


Because we're scum together obvi

On November 01 2017 13:21 darthfoley wrote:


It's equally easy to vote for you so that's what i'm going to do. It's funny how quickly you forgot your 100% scum read on Damerion.

Lolzzzz

On November 01 2017 13:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I mean at least he posted. He could of easily not post and you would of still called it lame. Usually negative connotations like that give off a scummy vibe as well so we can do less of.

On November 01 2017 16:34 Holyflare wrote:
Ticktock's string of posts look really fake to me like he arbitrarily picked an alignment for each post and wrote a bad narrative.

On November 01 2017 22:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I don't think I should have to explain myself, but definitely not... DF was calling Ruxxar's post lame, and I just said its better that he posted rather than not. I mean I don't think it's that hard to understand what I meant if people actually read before replying.

So far DF, Damerian and Oats are on my watch list. Conversion is halfway there.

On November 01 2017 22:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Oats is also too sporadic in the voting thread, jumping onto who ever seems the "easiest" to vote off. Him and Damerian posting are so similar it's disgusting. I wouldn't be surprised if both of them flipped red.

On November 01 2017 23:27 Damdred wrote:
Hello

@oats honestly I couldnt say I have never seen him roll scum, just town in the few we have played. So guesswork is all I can say.

more gut reads Tictac is going to be town for his tone and trying to catch up without hiding his thoughts. I liked him a bit. Especially that he was takimg stances.

I have fairly subsrantial town list but no real scum feeling yet meh

On November 01 2017 23:44 ruXxar wrote:
Here’s my first impression aka people I like.

Happy krogan - naturally flowing, really getting into it with a game under his belt.
A lot more active now, seems excited to play.
Good town vibes.

Shockey - I’ve played with before as scum. From what I remember he was more timid then.
I don’t sense that here. I think he’s town.

Tick tock - I like tick tock. His string of posts shows he’s interested in having an opinion.
His thoughts are flowing well.
He’s a town lean.

On November 02 2017 00:47 Tictock wrote:


Why does HF not doing anything make Damer Town?

On November 02 2017 01:06 Tictock wrote:
Ok got through page 15.

I think I'm warming up to Conv a little more, he seems to be sticking to his guns despite the pressure. I'll give him the Town lean back.

I'm a tad disappointed to have nothing new from the Damer bros. They seem like the caliber of player that I prefer to take a wait and see approach with though.

Mixed bag about Oats. I felt like so had a way to read him a long time ago but his strong scum game last game makes me want to hold off. He is so all over the place right now that I'm kinda just scratching my head.

HF having RL issues explains him being a bit lacking but don't give him a full pass, he can be a slippery scum player.

On November 02 2017 03:40 ruXxar wrote:


This post is bad and you should feel bad.

On November 02 2017 03:46 ruXxar wrote:


You nitpick on one little tiny itsy bitsy sentence of all the posts the guy makes and you blow it up like front page news and calls him mafia.

Great detective work there.

On November 01 2017 11:06 Tictock wrote:
Screw it I guess I'll sheep Damer for now, all of Shockey's posts are terrible.

##Vote ShoCkeyy

On November 02 2017 03:59 ruXxar wrote:


Yes, the bickering between him and shockey was enough for me.
Either they're both scum or theyre both town.

On November 02 2017 04:09 ruXxar wrote:



I like his tone.
Light hearted and jovial, the same way I play when I'm excited to roll town.

His reads are good and consistent on HF and Shockey.
Reads the game pretty much the same way I do, which makes it look like he doesn't have a whacky agenda.
Explains his reads so that you can see where he's coming from with his thought process.

On November 02 2017 04:18 ruXxar wrote:





I invite you to read the first 2 pages of my filter.

On November 02 2017 04:14 ruXxar wrote:


I've called you town, and I'm now calling conversion town.
It means you're both town.

What I mean by my "both scum" statement is that the only time I've seen people attack each other like that in that manner where is when the both are scum, not as Scum v Town.

Pretty much what it was like when I and rsoul bussed each other as scum.

On November 02 2017 04:20 ruXxar wrote:


What's your point?

On November 02 2017 04:09 ruXxar wrote:



I like his tone.
Light hearted and jovial, the same way I play when I'm excited to roll town.

His reads are good and consistent on HF and Shockey.
Reads the game pretty much the same way I do, which makes it look like he doesn't have a whacky agenda.
Explains his reads so that you can see where he's coming from with his thought process.

On November 01 2017 12:37 Tictock wrote:
Humm, Shokey's more recent posts are ok, but I'm not a fan of the "I play like lynchbait to catch scum" defense.

Especially when he's apparently abandoning that strategy as soon as the pressure is starting to build.

Still the best early vote imo.

On November 02 2017 04:14 ruXxar wrote:


I've called you town, and I'm now calling conversion town.
It means you're both town.
.

On November 02 2017 04:25 ruXxar wrote:
If I had no prior experience with shockey I would most likely also call him scum.

On November 02 2017 04:34 ruXxar wrote:


1) I did not claim otherwise.

2) That's your opinion. I disagree.

3) Again you're picking one post and ignoring my engagement with conversion.

On November 02 2017 04:49 ruXxar wrote:


Because you love taking thing out of context and blowing it up.
You're clamoring for a leg to stand on to call me mafia, and ignoring everything else I've done.
Thats bad scum hunting by every standard.
The post you chose to point out is not even mafia indicative as many people have posted lists.
Besides, your accusation is flat out wrong, I have engaged with multiple people.

I would take you more seriously if you had some credible arguments, but right now you're just grasping at straws.

On November 02 2017 05:23 Holyflare wrote:
Why is his read on Shock good if you don't agree with it?

On November 02 2017 06:14 ruXxar wrote:


Sure, but calling it scummy is a leap of logic when my reasons are perfectly sound.

On November 02 2017 06:04 Vivax wrote:


I'm totally going with thread sentiment if it lynches scum.
Should I scumread him less cause others already did? Nice logic there.

My attitude this day will be lynch schockey or feed. You can keep underhandedly defending him while calling him mafia though.

On November 02 2017 06:16 darthfoley wrote:
Oats I really hope you're town, because if you're mafia I will hate you for at least two weeks

On November 02 2017 06:29 ruXxar wrote:



krogan and shockey are scum
+ Show Spoiler +

ruxxar is scum
+ Show Spoiler +

Dislike ticktock
+ Show Spoiler +

Oats is scum
+ Show Spoiler +

Conversion is possibly scum
+ Show Spoiler +

Krogan is town
+ Show Spoiler +

Shockey is town
+ Show Spoiler +

Oats is town
+ Show Spoiler +

Conversion is town
+ Show Spoiler +

Vivax is scum
+ Show Spoiler +

Zen master is scum
+ Show Spoiler +

I think it's pretty clear you're just jumping from one guy to the next with your scum reads.

On November 02 2017 06:35 ruXxar wrote:


Because it was obvious he was looking for reasons to call me scum, and not trying to objectively evaluate why I said what I did. He was looking for plausible cause to push his scum read.

On November 02 2017 06:36 Holyflare wrote:


Well you have bad expectations then?

On November 02 2017 06:39 Oatsmaster wrote:

No, no, tell me how darth's analysis is wrong because it seems like he got it on the nose.

Am I scum too? Cause I agree with what he said.

On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote:
someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum

On November 02 2017 07:08 Conversion wrote:


I can pull out quotes if you want, but he literally bases half of his scum read on me because I tried to form a wagon on him with Damerion. He refuses to answer me on why I would be scum with Damerion and make such a shitty play early in telling Damerion his play is bad or feels weird. Also Damerion actually never voted on him, so I wasn't "forming a wagon" on him

a lot of the crap before it was just semantics that he and I couldn't see eye to eye on, but he constantly dodges that question when he has no reason to as town

On November 01 2017 09:33 Conversion wrote:
but you know what you're right. why do I care so much I bye bye

On November 02 2017 07:33 Conversion wrote:


? what is a leap of logic to you. he cane to the wrong conclusion with wrong information and tried to piece together something to call me scum. this is pedantic

On November 02 2017 07:31 Conversion wrote:
what have I dodged? I’ll answer it immediately here. no one asked me anything, I called myself out for being a shitty player early on, and all of you are just telling me to believe this guy is town but are not convincing me. I’m not moving my vote

On November 02 2017 07:50 Conversion wrote:
and I don’t have to answer you bc you don’t care if this guy dodges me so yeah I’ll dodge your pedantic questions

On November 02 2017 08:57 Tictock wrote:


If you look I think you can tell I wanted to build pressure on Shokey. Good way to do that is point out that others wanted him dead.

Wasn't too impressed by his reaction and nothing from him has stood out to me since. Dude may well be scum.

On November 02 2017 08:58 ruXxar wrote:


Despite the unorthodox running commentary style, I like the content and reasoning behind his reads.
It’s very down to earth and logical.

Maybe if I looked hard enough for a reason to call him scum I would call it cookie cutter reads?

That a bit of a stretch though.

He just seems like your regular plain straight up and down average vanilla townie.

On November 02 2017 08:43 Tictock wrote:
At pg 20 now.

DF and Oats were bickering incessantly last night but now I see DF saying he has mindmelded with Oats over their reads. Feels like a rather quick and convenient turn around to me.

Part of me wants to call BS on the whole argument they had and say it was actually a forced SvS fight, but that is probably far fetched. More likely is a Scum DF buddying Oats.

I actually like Oats calling out my HF read, it is kinda a mixed bag. I was too leinant with HF last time I played and left him slip by as scum when he pretended to be forced to speak Russian. Here I feel like his push on Conv was off when he was pushing Conv for his scum read on Damer when HF himself was voting Damer. Someone mentioned HF and Damer had a history last game though so idk how serious HF's opening vote was.

Also yea Damdred is being pretty lackluster since the game got going.

So Oats more likely Town than DF I think.

On November 02 2017 11:11 Tictock wrote:


I think it is off that HF dropped a vote on Damer with no explanation then pushed Conv for also thinking Damer is scum. Like the post HF made above was the first time I've seen him actually give a reason for his vote.

Thinking about it now it doesn't seem terribly in line for a scum!flare to attack a town!conv for having the same read if his goal is to get Damer lynched.

Still though I see HF sitting on this Damer vote while attacking Conv and myself without really trying to push any of us very hard. Just a lot of what HF is doing this game doesn't add up to me.

As for my read on Shokey, I'd give it a 70% chance he is scum. I'm actually debating if I want to switch to DF ATM kus I feel like he is being very opportunistic and is trying to buddy you. I'm also noting that you have basically ignored DF since you two got into it the other night.

Right now I'm thankful this game isn't going too fast and I have actually had a chance to keep up. I'm gunna read DF's filter tonight and decide who I prefer between him and Shokey.

I may do a list post sometime too, Right now I know both Vivax and Zen dude posted but we're completely forgettable. I think Bre is the only person to have not posted yet at this point?

On November 02 2017 11:14 Tictock wrote:
Oh and about HF's push on Conv, I didn't agree that Conv's read on Damer was scummy. So HF's scum read on Conv just seems out of left field to me.

On November 02 2017 14:31 Tictock wrote:
Oats if this is what you are talking about re HFvsConcersion...





This is crap bickering about stuff from last game.

I tend to zone out when people talk around each other, kus Conv was making a point about HF anyways not Damer.

Besides Conv's original read on Damer was basically just "he's different than last game, that's weird, that could maybe mean he's scum"

Honestly rereading that I feel like HF was blowing shit out of proportion and jumping down Conv's throat. All the while voting the guy Conv had issues with. Do you see why I'm seeing a possible scum!flare here?

In fact I don't even think a HF/Damer team is impossible here. I feel like HF has spent most of the game pushing people other than Damer.

On November 02 2017 23:54 Damdred wrote:


Sure, I wamt damer to xome back and give some thoughts. Initial thought was town but no real follow up has me questioning. Updated read would be nice.

TT has fallen for me, the fight he brusged off was somewhat interesting, his reads poat was lackluster, his tone was still ok thougj. He is someone who I sould consider lynching.

Zen bjg post was okish, but not enough fo get a solid read on him. At this point seems like he made a big post to get ignored really and it has seemed to work.

As for the people up for lynch I dont think I want to lynch them today.

As for Oats, should be a healthy amount of fear after last game, but his vote hopping and activity seems more in kine with the game I histed rather than him falling on soneone and afking on a wagon that is going to be lynched like last game.

On November 03 2017 00:58 ruXxar wrote:


The more I read TTs read post the worse it looks.

I was gonna summarize each of his reads and why they are so bad, but there's no point when people can just read them themselves.

I'm switching to TT.

On November 03 2017 03:18 ruXxar wrote:


What is opportunistic about my reads?

On November 02 2017 16:39 ruXxar wrote:


I don’t think you actually understood what went down there between me, Conversion and holyflare, so let me recap it for you:

1)
Conversion calls damerion scum, due to the fact that damerion has changed his play style.

Conversion says this is scummy because holyflare has said that there was no reason for damerion to change his play style since it was working so well for him.

only when questioned by me does conversion admit that holyflare never said that this game, but that it was actually a quote from last game.

Conversion also made it seem like it was super obvious he was talking about something holyflare said last game.

2)
As if that wasn’t bad enough, the argument that conversion claimed holyflare used to call damerion scum was actually wrong.

Holy flare last game claimed that damerion was scummy for changing his play style.
Well, Damerion was town last game, so holyflares argument was incorrect.

Conversion did not seem to have evaluated that part at all and just wanted more credibility to his damerion read by adding holyflares name to his post.

The fact that you didn’t understand that is affecting my view of you negatively.

On November 02 2017 08:58 ruXxar wrote:


Despite the unorthodox running commentary style, I like the content and reasoning behind his reads.
It’s very down to earth and logical.

Maybe if I looked hard enough for a reason to call him scum I would call it cookie cutter reads?

That a bit of a stretch though.

He just seems like your regular plain straight up and down average vanilla townie.

On November 02 2017 04:09 ruXxar wrote:



I like his tone.
Light hearted and jovial, the same way I play when I'm excited to roll town.

His reads are good and consistent on HF and Shockey.
Reads the game pretty much the same way I do, which makes it look like he doesn't have a whacky agenda.
Explains his reads so that you can see where he's coming from with his thought process.

On November 03 2017 04:17 ruXxar wrote:


I feel like I'm having a deja vu.

On November 03 2017 04:22 ruXxar wrote:


But to answer your question. Yes, it was a very pivotal and important moment in the game for me, and he failed to see it.

On November 02 2017 05:56 ruXxar wrote:


Sure. Right now you are my top scum read.

1) You're being wishy washy trying to coast by. Casting shade and town reads around you pretty lightly.
You're keeping every option open, snaking your way around from read to read.

2) This post is incredibly nitpicky and trying to infuse meaning where there is none. One of the worst posts in the game.
It's very over explainy and trying to siphon meaning out of very word instead of trying to understand the overall message of the post.

---

Besides you there's a few people on my to watch list:

Oats - for the same reason of also blowing things up and putting emphasis on worthless fact as if they were gold and had some divine scum meaning.
Damerion - I detected a change in meta behavior, need more posts to evaluate.
Shockey - I know I'm biased due to meta. The threshold for where that meta no longer holds is very thin. But still resides as town. Also the bickering with conversion tips in his favor.
HF - His damerion vote with no explanation was a red flag, but his later followup was ok. He's awfully quiet this game, but he has an excuse. Otherwise keeping an eye on him as his meta is different from last game. A bit more laid back.
Not sure how to interpret it, will need to wait until he makes a real push.

On November 03 2017 03:11 ruXxar wrote:


Sure, I'll force him to play.

On November 03 2017 04:51 ruXxar wrote:


I don't know about zen. I feel like when he posts he's not afraid to put himself out there. I'd like to see him post more for sure. Don't want to lynch him today.

On November 03 2017 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
Oats give me a breakdown if ruxxar thing

On November 03 2017 05:11 darthfoley wrote:


You might be right about this, but I think ruxxar is the safer bet.

@Oats all of Vivax's filter is super bland and opportunistic. His two scum reads were me, who at the time had a lot of pressure, and Shockey, who's uber lynch bait and also had thread sentiment against him.

He never provided any town reads, and his reasons for scum reading us were either non-existent or just regurgitating other people's ideas. Sure it's 3 posts, but they're bad posts.

On November 03 2017 05:15 darthfoley wrote:


Yea I've never subscribed to the whole "i'm gonna find town and then PoE" strategy. Idk, Vivax being the fifth person to put me at #1 scum just doesn't sit right.

Also his activity compared to the other mafia game going on according to HF. Might be a lame reason to read someone scum, but oh well

On November 03 2017 05:17 darthfoley wrote:
So it's like 3-3-2 with Shockey-Ruxxar-Me? TT having only one vote after 3-4 people have been shitting on him is mighty mighty interesting.

On November 03 2017 05:22 darthfoley wrote:


I thought Ruxx, Damdred, and 1-2 others were talking about how TT is bad? HF too, no?

On November 03 2017 05:27 Holyflare wrote:


So why is zen scummy for doing that when you literally made 1 post on shockeyy and afkd? What makes him mafia and not just afk? 7/10 is so strong.

On November 03 2017 05:27 Holyflare wrote:


So why is zen scummy for doing that when you literally made 1 post on shockeyy and afkd? What makes him mafia and not just afk? 7/10 is so strong.

On November 03 2017 05:35 Vivax wrote:
Coppola already called, he wants a movie with shockey as the protagonist cause he's so scum

On November 03 2017 05:42 ruXxar wrote:


I'm still going to lynch tick tock. I just wanted to get vivax playing.

On November 03 2017 05:44 Tictock wrote:
We had a late lynch rush at my morning job so I have shit for time today, basically just the next half hour and I need to eat lunch in that time as well. No time for filters, just gunna skim a bit.

This caught my eye:


First, in response. Hardly any, I think? I haven't been playing much mafia and I've only rolled Town in the past year. Probably an easy thing to check via the database.

Second, it occurres to me that scum!Shokey has everything to gain by pushing me here when there is clearly several people scum reading me and he is in danger of being lynched ATM.

##Unvote

Gunna put my vote on DF and try to catch up.

On November 03 2017 05:44 Vivax wrote:


I can't exactly word why but this post comes from town 90 % of the time. It simply is a genuine approach to the game. Not voting TT.

On November 03 2017 05:50 darthfoley wrote:


Who?

Also notice how Vixax has pivoted off of me when thread sentiment did so

On November 03 2017 05:52 Vivax wrote:


Possibly everyone calling you scum didn't even read your filter then.
I'm still in the process of.

On November 03 2017 06:00 Vivax wrote:


What info did Shockey get? What's the point of listing all nonposters besides trying to look helpful.



He even admits looking scummy and justifies it with doing it on purpose. Also no explanation whatsoever why Damerion shouldn't have done what he did as town. If I was right on 3/3 mafias last game, obviously I'm going to expect people to follow my opinion. Shockey tries to turn it into something scummy.

Should I even go on? This guy screams mafia all over.

On November 03 2017 05:52 ruXxar wrote:


If it works it works. Don't hater the player, hate the game.

On November 03 2017 06:10 Vivax wrote:
Some of his accusations are "you didn't read", "I've done more than you", "Breshke never posted" , "He voted me and didn't post again", "he tried to start a bandwagon on me and then didn't post again" and to me "you didn't finish reading but call me scum", "you're spamming for large filter" to conversion.

If you take the pants off your head, you will realize he isn't actually finding reasons for people to be mafia, he's just finding reasons to blame people for something.

On November 03 2017 06:28 Damdred wrote:
ok, so i dont want to lynch ruxxy today.

or shockey, we should consolidate on tt though

On November 03 2017 06:28 Vivax wrote:
Well my vote stands and I explained why I'm not going to vote TT.

I'm not feeling a Ruxxar lynch either atm.

Shockey is simply the best lynch and I'm not going to do anything besides pointing to today's arguments and voting him for the rest of the game.

As I said, lynch shockey or feed.

On November 03 2017 06:35 Damdred wrote:
Let me say it like thia, i dont like lynching people who agree with me and I like rux tone and O dont hate all of his posts.

Really I had a gut read on him early and I dont want to go back on it atm.

On November 03 2017 06:45 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Hey guys, just got caught up and I'm gonna post about some of the people that have stuck out for me when reading thread and some stuff I didn't have time to write last night. Also want to clarify, I like doing big posts like this rather than a few smaller posts, both to gather my thoughts and have others see my views more easily.

Conversion:

Conversion for me right now is neutral. His point about Damerion changing his playstyle has some merit too it, although I disagree that it has to be a scum-tell. What most people seem to fixate about him was his reaction when being attacked by others. I'm gonna have to defend him here, no one likes to being accused of being scum. Was it an overreaction? Yes, but both mafia and town are going to be upset if they are accused of mafia. He's been aggressive which I think is a point towards him as town and backs up his votes and accusations with his reasons why he does. However I did find something weird about him. Back early in the game when people were attacking him, after reacting the way he did he simply left and said he was being attacked for posting his views. This was really a strange move for me. Someone said he was "martyring" himself and I have to agree. That's why he gets a neutral read in my book.



Damerion

I just went through Damerion's filter. His early posting is fine, he voted for Shock but gave reason for it. But then he posted this not too long ago



He gives 4 people as mafia, but with no reasoning for any of them before he is asked to do so, and then only does so for two of the 4. He also hides one of the names for fear of "developing a war". I feel this is more a scum thing to do, since scum are more afraid to get attention to themselves and want to just quietly slip under the radar. I also want to bring into attention this post he made:



The bolded part is exactly what Damdred said a few hours earlier. He basically just copied what he said and passed it off as his own thought. This is very scummy thing to do, and he is scum-lean for me. I still think both Darth and Shock are more scum than him, but he's number 3 on my list.

Oatsmaster

Oatsmaster is right now the only one I read as town. He is aggressive and pushes his lynches relentlessly, both qualities that I believe make you town. But I feel like he's tunneling rux a bit hard and his reason for it are not that strong. He has a lot of post, but from what I understand he says Rux lies about saying shock was town early in the game, and now he is still going for him because of it. I looked at that Rux post and it's kind of a strech to say that he lied. He said ticktock reads the game same as him, but then calls shock town while ticktock called him mafia. This isn't really lying in my book.

Darth is still my number one in scumlist so I'm gonna keep my vote on him.

On November 03 2017 06:50 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Oats, am I misunderstanding something here or is your reason for wanting to lynch rux simply because of that post about "my reads are same as ticktock"?

Also, could you not post all the time when most of it is stuff you are repeating? It drowns out the things you really want to say when you have a sea of posts where most of them don't really say anything.

On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?

Whats your take on the other wagons zen?

On November 03 2017 06:54 darthfoley wrote:
Basically this is Ruxxar vs. TT with 7 minutes left. i'm trying to figure out what the VC is

On November 03 2017 06:54 Tictock wrote:
Sneaking a minuet in at work. I feel like we need to consolidate but have no idea where votes are at.

If I end up the lynch look into the Damer-bros.

DF feels so sidelined this EoD too, I don't know why everyone forgot about him.

On November 03 2017 06:54 Tictock wrote:


DF feels so sidelined this EoD too, I don't know why everyone forgot about him.

On November 03 2017 06:56 Tictock wrote:


If this is true I'll vote Ruxx for survival. I'd really like to be able to put in more than fleeting minuets.

On November 03 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:


I'm fine with a Ruxxar vs. TT lynch, but I prefer Ruxxar. I don't have any hesitation with TT

On November 03 2017 06:58 Conversion wrote:


I'm not switching my vote off. I made and stated my reasons

On November 03 2017 06:59 Conversion wrote:
zzzz

On November 03 2017 07:18 ruXxar wrote:
DAMDRED I LOVE YOU <3 <3 <3

On November 03 2017 07:20 ruXxar wrote:


I dare you to call it a bus.
Go on, call it a bus.

On November 02 2017 17:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
And here comes the bus

On November 03 2017 07:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Zen and conversion the next two?

On November 03 2017 06:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Idk about Ticktock, but I definitely think vivax is mafia after seeing his return engagement...

On November 03 2017 07:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
The way zen tried to hop off TT to vote me at last second looks way to scummy. Zen?

On November 03 2017 07:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Sleeping, I woke up 10mins before then was forced to go eat so I've been trying to play catch up on my phone.

On November 03 2017 07:25 Conversion wrote:
especially since TT flipped godfather.. why would I even risk him getting remotely closed to lynched and not vote earlier and push ruxxar hard?

On November 03 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
I dont know what to think about zen answer, it seems to honest(?) to come from scum necessary bit the action is justvweird.

On November 03 2017 07:30 Vivax wrote:
Good stuff, I don't see bussing here so that's 4 very very likely townies for now.

Shockey is still mafia, cya.

On November 03 2017 07:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Oats why would Ruxx be mafia? He voted for his own partner? Where's the logic in that...

On November 03 2017 07:46 darthfoley wrote:


I'm still on the ruxxar scum train fwiw

On November 03 2017 07:58 Damdred wrote:
Shooting rux is wasteful, the narrative that is being constructed is that rux decided to bus tt because he needed to be townread.

But lets not forget that before I started pushing tt the lynch looked way different, rux could of supported a shockey lynch whicv btw would of gotten ahock lynched.

Or helped push a df lynch which qould of been just as close, but instead he needed to bus tt?

That doesnt make sense to me at all

On November 03 2017 08:01 Damdred wrote:
i guess the only way the rux bus theory worjs is if the mafia team is shock/tt/rux.

But idk why you bus the gf instead of a goon/whatever there?

On November 03 2017 08:09 Vivax wrote:


idk what you are talking about in regard to the 2 h before deadline. Shockey being mafia has nothing to do with ruxxar or TT. But Ruxxars vote timing speaks for him being town and not bussing.

On November 03 2017 08:38 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But Ruxx isn't scum? So it would of been the death of a town... Which comes to my next point, I think you're mafia as well. I personally think you're working with DF to try and push Ruxx while tonight you might either kill off Damdred, or Holyflare, get the bigger names out of here right?

On November 03 2017 08:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Personally, I would of rather saved my buddy, and vote "shockeyy" off who was also the most scummy of the first night. Because that's how the mafia should be played. The more mafia towards the end of the game the quicker it is to win. Why let a partner die so early in the game?

On November 03 2017 08:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I don't mind sheeping that for now till Oats and DF make a viable point as to why they're not mafia, then I can make a decision on who to start the train on before votes are in.

On November 03 2017 08:56 ShoCkeyy wrote:


This post also looks scummy because A) Vivax always calls me scum first in every game we've played together B) he seems pretty busy in his other game. I feel like this is part of the narrative Oats is pushing to try and get two towns lynched. I don't even remember why Oats thought Vivax could be mafia lol, now I gotta filter dive again d;

On November 03 2017 09:24 Conversion wrote:
I like shock just a tiny bit more and I'm hesitant to believe Oats' claim on Ruxxar bussing mafia GF..

hmm

On November 03 2017 10:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:


You've actually never said it, I haven't seen one post in your filter that says that...

I do see





Then a few post later you're instantly calling him mafia along with ruxx.

On November 03 2017 10:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:


So you're not denying the lie you just mention then, great, thanks. ##vote Oatsmaster

On November 03 2017 05:17 Oatsmaster wrote:

He has no activity in that game too lol