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I’m lynching zen tomorrow
HF are you being srs with vig claim rescind? if so who the hell is vig and who shot vivax/df
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I hope mafia kepe me alive and try to counterclaim me. would make things interesting
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ruxxar or zen lynch or riot
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On November 06 2017 03:03 The_Zen_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2017 22:12 Conversion wrote:idk the more I look at it, the weirder your vote progression gets. 5:45 DF was your top scum read. 5:56 You realize he can't get lynched, so you "switch" onto Shock (actually switched onto TicTock) 5:59 you state this: On November 03 2017 06:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?
Whats your take on the other wagons zen? Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch. I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good. On the ticktock wagon, I liked his posts in the beginning but he hasn't really pushed anyone hard or taken a hard stance since his string of posts. I like that wagon better than rux atleast. But then you try to get off the TicTock wagon on to rux, even though you stated yourself that you like TT > rux for D1 lynch. Why would you jump off it at the last second when Shock wasn't getting lynched, and you preferred a TT lynch? Why did your logic suddenly change from "DF only has one vote, so he can't get lynched. I'm gonna hop off to someone" to "I'm switching to Shock even though I don't really see him getting lynched with less than 30 seconds left to lynch"
At the time of my original vote (22:58 swedish time) it would have been split between Shock, TT and Ruxx so it was still a viable lynch. Since Ruxx was set to be lynched I figured he would want to maybe save himself and Vote Shock. After I made my accidental vote I went back to the thread and made that post, then back to vote thread and wanted to double check voting. That's when I saw my own post and just hurried to change it to what I wanted before. I didn't even see TT vote since I didn't refresh, just wanted to change my vote as fast as humanly possible.
FYI this is straight up a lie. Shock wasn't a viable lynch target unless you got +1 on the shock train with you, which you didn't. so unless you're saying you saw the future and saw ruxxar (I believe he's the only other person who actually wanted to try and jump off and lynch Shock instead of TT) hope onto Shock, in which case your vote would have swayed the D1 lynch to get Shock, he was never really in the running for a lynch.
On November 06 2017 04:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now I could go for a lynch on either Rux, Conversion or Shock. I'm gonna keep my vote on Ruxx for now since Oats is a strong townread for me.
Ritoky is also a townread for me. Maybe it's because he seems like the only sane person after the last few days of dealing with something really stupid. But he did go against a wagon that at the time was very strong and had some good posts on the subject. That's a very town move to make.
So his 2/3 lynch are the two blue roles, ends up switching to me. Comes right after the lynch to try and make himself look good after a town mislynch.
On November 06 2017 07:10 The_Zen_Man wrote:GG man, don't know why everyone voted for you. Especially with Conversion.
Opportunistic scum, lynch him please. Don't care if he was on wagon or not D1.
On November 06 2017 04:05 ritoky wrote:
so conv, oats, shockey, or krogan will be getting my vote; since to me the game seems like basically auto.
the ruxx +1 world only exists if you think the lynch was mvm like oats does from what i gather, which just seems the least likely to me because of shit like why ruxx elects to bus a teammate to save himself when there are alternatives available to him. and the zen +1 world only exists if you think zen accidentally'd his partner, which you seem to believe and i currently don't.
elsewise the game is basically we have 3 lynches guaranteed lynches and 4 people. if 1 of them becomes super town or is blue then it is auto....so game seems pretty simple from where i sit.
JK/Town/Vig
so you going to vote Krogan now?
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almost want to believe it's ritoky/zen but that's too easy
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ritoky, ruxxar, zen, krogan, hf are the only 5 I want to lynch into
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On November 07 2017 00:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Also Conversion, don't know if you've used your ability, but you're a pretty big target for tonight, after calling it out, it might change, it might not.
I mean there's no way scum team is going to not kill me, unless they're going to try counterclaiming and convincing half of time that I'm lying
On November 07 2017 00:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
i wouldn't even mind taking out holyflare if need be. I remember a scum game I played with him where he single handily was able to convince town he was the right dude to vote for in the last few minutes of the game and win the scum game for us, I mean with the godfather out, I wouldn't mind taking a look into his posting style from that game and this game.
The bad thing it's currently night time right?. So we have a few hours to figure out the next person before getting killed.
I think ruxx or zen needs to go today. I thought Oats started my wagon first on trying to paint me as scummy for voting for myself, but it was ruxxar so that was my bad.
HF doesn't need to go first IMO. he doesn't really give us anything, but that's my opinion
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On November 07 2017 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
@Shockey.
Please confirm who you shot.
This is dumb, stop fishing for his kill. Who are your top scum reads with oats flip?
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On November 07 2017 00:41 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2017 00:32 Conversion wrote:On November 07 2017 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
@Shockey.
Please confirm who you shot. This is dumb, stop fishing for his kill. Who are your top scum reads with oats flip? Why should we not know?
why are you fishing so hard for his kill? he shot someone, that's it. unless you're going to counterclaim vig, what's the benefit of the information?
I'm not seeing it
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On November 07 2017 00:44 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2017 00:42 Conversion wrote:On November 07 2017 00:41 ruXxar wrote:On November 07 2017 00:32 Conversion wrote:On November 07 2017 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
@Shockey.
Please confirm who you shot. This is dumb, stop fishing for his kill. Who are your top scum reads with oats flip? Why should we not know? why are you fishing so hard for his kill? he shot someone, that's it. unless you're going to counterclaim vig, what's the benefit of the information? I'm not seeing it Because it’s going to affect my decision for who I want to lynch next.
and who is your lynch pool based on a yes/no answer?
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On November 07 2017 03:25 The_Zen_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2017 23:53 Conversion wrote:On November 06 2017 03:03 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 04 2017 22:12 Conversion wrote:idk the more I look at it, the weirder your vote progression gets. 5:45 DF was your top scum read. 5:56 You realize he can't get lynched, so you "switch" onto Shock (actually switched onto TicTock) 5:59 you state this: On November 03 2017 06:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?
Whats your take on the other wagons zen? Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch. I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good. On the ticktock wagon, I liked his posts in the beginning but he hasn't really pushed anyone hard or taken a hard stance since his string of posts. I like that wagon better than rux atleast. But then you try to get off the TicTock wagon on to rux, even though you stated yourself that you like TT > rux for D1 lynch. Why would you jump off it at the last second when Shock wasn't getting lynched, and you preferred a TT lynch? Why did your logic suddenly change from "DF only has one vote, so he can't get lynched. I'm gonna hop off to someone" to "I'm switching to Shock even though I don't really see him getting lynched with less than 30 seconds left to lynch"
At the time of my original vote (22:58 swedish time) it would have been split between Shock, TT and Ruxx so it was still a viable lynch. Since Ruxx was set to be lynched I figured he would want to maybe save himself and Vote Shock. After I made my accidental vote I went back to the thread and made that post, then back to vote thread and wanted to double check voting. That's when I saw my own post and just hurried to change it to what I wanted before. I didn't even see TT vote since I didn't refresh, just wanted to change my vote as fast as humanly possible. FYI this is straight up a lie. Shock wasn't a viable lynch target unless you got +1 on the shock train with you, which you didn't. so unless you're saying you saw the future and saw ruxxar (I believe he's the only other person who actually wanted to try and jump off and lynch Shock instead of TT) hope onto Shock, in which case your vote would have swayed the D1 lynch to get Shock, he was never really in the running for a lynch. On November 06 2017 04:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now I could go for a lynch on either Rux, Conversion or Shock. I'm gonna keep my vote on Ruxx for now since Oats is a strong townread for me.
Ritoky is also a townread for me. Maybe it's because he seems like the only sane person after the last few days of dealing with something really stupid. But he did go against a wagon that at the time was very strong and had some good posts on the subject. That's a very town move to make. So his 2/3 lynch are the two blue roles, ends up switching to me. Comes right after the lynch to try and make himself look good after a town mislynch. On November 06 2017 07:10 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 06 2017 07:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
GG gl GG man, don't know why everyone voted for you. Especially with Conversion. Opportunistic scum, lynch him please. Don't care if he was on wagon or not D1. On November 06 2017 04:05 ritoky wrote:
so conv, oats, shockey, or krogan will be getting my vote; since to me the game seems like basically auto.
the ruxx +1 world only exists if you think the lynch was mvm like oats does from what i gather, which just seems the least likely to me because of shit like why ruxx elects to bus a teammate to save himself when there are alternatives available to him. and the zen +1 world only exists if you think zen accidentally'd his partner, which you seem to believe and i currently don't.
elsewise the game is basically we have 3 lynches guaranteed lynches and 4 people. if 1 of them becomes super town or is blue then it is auto....so game seems pretty simple from where i sit. JK/Town/Vig so you going to vote Krogan now? First of no it's not a lie. I'm gonna take this really slowly to have you understand because I'm really tired of hearing the same thing. So, when I voted the score would have been 3-3-3 between TT shock and Ruxxar. Now Ruxxar was still set to be lynched because he reached 3 votes first. So knowing this it would be obvious that Ruxxar would want to save himself, making it a lynch that had more than a fair chance of going throgh. And how was I to know about blue roles before the claim even happened? Either you are stupid or just deliberately spreading misinformation on me.
Before the claim happened? You literally asked people why they didn't vote for me after my blue claim
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I'm onto you because you are my least favorite player in the pool of 5 I mentioned, so either you're stupid and you can't read, or you're scum
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On November 07 2017 03:25 The_Zen_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2017 23:53 Conversion wrote:On November 06 2017 03:03 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 04 2017 22:12 Conversion wrote:idk the more I look at it, the weirder your vote progression gets. 5:45 DF was your top scum read. 5:56 You realize he can't get lynched, so you "switch" onto Shock (actually switched onto TicTock) 5:59 you state this: On November 03 2017 06:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?
Whats your take on the other wagons zen? Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch. I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good. On the ticktock wagon, I liked his posts in the beginning but he hasn't really pushed anyone hard or taken a hard stance since his string of posts. I like that wagon better than rux atleast. But then you try to get off the TicTock wagon on to rux, even though you stated yourself that you like TT > rux for D1 lynch. Why would you jump off it at the last second when Shock wasn't getting lynched, and you preferred a TT lynch? Why did your logic suddenly change from "DF only has one vote, so he can't get lynched. I'm gonna hop off to someone" to "I'm switching to Shock even though I don't really see him getting lynched with less than 30 seconds left to lynch"
At the time of my original vote (22:58 swedish time) it would have been split between Shock, TT and Ruxx so it was still a viable lynch. Since Ruxx was set to be lynched I figured he would want to maybe save himself and Vote Shock. After I made my accidental vote I went back to the thread and made that post, then back to vote thread and wanted to double check voting. That's when I saw my own post and just hurried to change it to what I wanted before. I didn't even see TT vote since I didn't refresh, just wanted to change my vote as fast as humanly possible. FYI this is straight up a lie. Shock wasn't a viable lynch target unless you got +1 on the shock train with you, which you didn't. so unless you're saying you saw the future and saw ruxxar (I believe he's the only other person who actually wanted to try and jump off and lynch Shock instead of TT) hope onto Shock, in which case your vote would have swayed the D1 lynch to get Shock, he was never really in the running for a lynch. On November 06 2017 04:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now I could go for a lynch on either Rux, Conversion or Shock. I'm gonna keep my vote on Ruxx for now since Oats is a strong townread for me.
Ritoky is also a townread for me. Maybe it's because he seems like the only sane person after the last few days of dealing with something really stupid. But he did go against a wagon that at the time was very strong and had some good posts on the subject. That's a very town move to make. So his 2/3 lynch are the two blue roles, ends up switching to me. Comes right after the lynch to try and make himself look good after a town mislynch. On November 06 2017 07:10 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 06 2017 07:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
GG gl GG man, don't know why everyone voted for you. Especially with Conversion. Opportunistic scum, lynch him please. Don't care if he was on wagon or not D1. On November 06 2017 04:05 ritoky wrote:
so conv, oats, shockey, or krogan will be getting my vote; since to me the game seems like basically auto.
the ruxx +1 world only exists if you think the lynch was mvm like oats does from what i gather, which just seems the least likely to me because of shit like why ruxx elects to bus a teammate to save himself when there are alternatives available to him. and the zen +1 world only exists if you think zen accidentally'd his partner, which you seem to believe and i currently don't.
elsewise the game is basically we have 3 lynches guaranteed lynches and 4 people. if 1 of them becomes super town or is blue then it is auto....so game seems pretty simple from where i sit. JK/Town/Vig so you going to vote Krogan now? First of no it's not a lie. I'm gonna take this really slowly to have you understand because I'm really tired of hearing the same thing. So, when I voted the score would have been 3-3-3 between TT shock and Ruxxar. Now Ruxxar was still set to be lynched because he reached 3 votes first. So knowing this it would be obvious that Ruxxar would want to save himself, making it a lynch that had more than a fair chance of going throgh.And how was I to know about blue roles before the claim even happened? Either you are stupid or just deliberately spreading misinformation on me.
First off, you're telling me that this realization would have come to Ruxxar within the 90 seconds you came to the thread and voted.
Second, when you switched your vote you would have been at a 3-3-3 with TT/Shock/Ruxxar, and ruxxar still would not be lynched. This happened to me last game when I hit 5-4 and someone voted off me, making it 4-4 between me and Damerion. I still got lynched, even though Damerion "hit" 4 votes first.
So unless you're telling me that mechanics somehow changed between games, you're wrong. Don't belittle me because you're bad at playing mafia.
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Last of all, you still fail to answer why your logic of "I'm not going to vote someone who's not going to be lynched" somehow CHANGED over two cycles and you keep refusing to address it. What was your point in voting off wagon on to me there, when you had a legitimate chance of lynching your other scum read in ruxxar? what a lame way to dodge committing to a wagon, so you vote for me without even realizing my claim. It's just straight up embarrassing.
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On November 04 2017 21:50 The_Zen_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2017 21:27 ruXxar wrote:On November 04 2017 21:24 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 04 2017 20:28 ruXxar wrote:On November 04 2017 19:46 The_Zen_Man wrote:
About the night kill, As some have pointed out already it's suprising that none of the 3 that voted for TT died tonight and instead DF. If not the three then I was pretty sure Oats would die, he seems the most townie to me. It could have been a mafia vote for mafia on TT to deflect suspicion, and they just didn't expect me accidently also voting for him. Looked more to me like you mis-voted and then were scrambling at the last second to vote for shockey to save your team mate. See, here's why I don't like you: 1) Here you say that you're going to switch to shockey, because he "has a chance of being the lynch".Fair enough. On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?
Whats your take on the other wagons zen? Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch. I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good. Next thing you go into the vote thread and vote tick tock by accident. 2) Now back in the thread, you say that you prefer a Tick tock lynch over a Ruxxar lynch.On November 03 2017 06:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?
Whats your take on the other wagons zen? Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch. I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good. On the ticktock wagon, I liked his posts in the beginning but he hasn't really pushed anyone hard or taken a hard stance since his string of posts. I like that wagon better than rux atleast.
Now back in the vote thread the vote looks like this with 1 minute to go: On November 03 2017 07:09 Rels wrote:
Tictock (4): Damdred, ruXxar, Damerion, The_Zen_Man
ruxXar (4): Oatsmaster, Darthfoley, happykrogan, Tictock
ShoCkeyy (2): Conversion, Vivax,
You unvoting tick tock and then voting shockey at this point is really scummy because you are going against both of the points you made earlier: 1) You wanted to vote shockey because he had a chance to get lynched. Well at the point you tried to unvote tick tock there was NO chance of shockey getting lynched. 2) You liked the Tick tock lynch better than the Ruxxar lynch. By attempting to unvote Tick tock, you were effectively setting up the hammer for my lynch by making it 4-3 in favor of me. Again the same, trying to fit your view by ignoring reality of what happened. I clearly said I wanted to vote shock, and then I tried to switch when I realised my mistake. Anyone should be able to realise that the voteswitch wasn't alignment indictive at all yet you using it as an argument is really strange. My vote was on Shockey from the beginning, that was what I meant to do and that was what I wanted my vote on. Yeah, I preferred TT wagon over you, but I preferred Shock over both of you, something I said several times. At this point it seems you are just ignoring the truth and cherry picking to fit your view. What was the point in voting for shockey at the last minute when: 1) He wasnt going to get lynched 2) You would let me get lynched over your preferred tick tock lynch Because he was who I wanted to vote for in my original vote. And when I was gonna vote for him he was actually a possible lynch. What aren't you getting about this? My vote was never on TT, it was always on Shockey which is why I tried to correct my mistake. I wasn't thinking about "Changing this vote will get Ruxxar killed" but "I accidently voted for TT and not Shock like I wanted to, let's change it to what I wanted".
This is your answer to why you voted Shock, because he was a possible lynch. Fine, but how does your logic hold now that I wasn't even close to a possible lynch?
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On November 07 2017 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
I also agree with that, no need for name calling.
I only called him stupid because he did, tbh. If you're going to hurl insults, be ready to have it thrown back at yo
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On November 07 2017 03:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2017 03:42 Conversion wrote:
Last of all, you still fail to answer why your logic of "I'm not going to vote someone who's not going to be lynched" somehow CHANGED over two cycles and you keep refusing to address it. What was your point in voting off wagon on to me there, when you had a legitimate chance of lynching your other scum read in ruxxar? what a lame way to dodge committing to a wagon, so you vote for me without even realizing my claim. It's just straight up embarrassing. Who else was there at that time? I was clear from the start that I read Oats as town so I was clerly not going to vote for him. The second biggest wagon was the one on me, and after that you were the third biggest one. It was an obvious choice really.
I was on my own wagon, then I immediately voted off of it. Oats voted off of it before your vote, then you hopped on just as Ruxxar hopped off
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On November 07 2017 03:54 The_Zen_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2017 03:36 Conversion wrote:
I'm onto you because you are my least favorite player in the pool of 5 I mentioned, so either you're stupid and you can't read, or you're scum If you don't like me that's fine. But try to be a little objective here instead of just going after people you don't like. You honestly don't seem to be able to take even the slightest bit of criticism, however small.
You're the one insulting me when I'm asking you a very simple question:
You state you don't like voting on wagons that won't get anywhere, so why are you voting me instead of Ruxxar, who is also one of your scum reads?
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I'm calling you scum for the exact same reasons I called shockey D1. you don't do anything, you only respond/have opinions of people who are attacking you. Your entire D2 summary is "I think Ruxxar or Conversion should be lynched because they attacked me. Shock too, from D1. And oats is town"
you don't contribute to anything else, you tell everyone you're tired of hearing/repeating the same thing, yet you don't do anything after addressing the same point 5-6 times, then you randomly show up for votes and completely miss a blue claim for the D2 lynch.
what's your thoughts on D3 lynch, and who's your top lynch candidate?
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