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On November 02 2017 14:31 Tictock wrote:Oats if this is what you are talking about re HFvsConcersion... Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 09:23 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
You might say that "oh hf but he already said he's finding town this game instead of looking for scummy things that's why it's different!" but without talking about ongoing games he did very well with the previous strategy so I don't see a need to change it up at all. I'm not putting words in HF's myouth-- he has like 2 posts so far, why did you think I was talking about this game Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 09:25 Holyflare wrote:
That's a quote from last game
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Where he was town? This is crap bickering about stuff from last game. I tend to zone out when people talk around each other, kus Conv was making a point about HF anyways not Damer. Besides Conv's original read on Damer was basically just "he's different than last game, that's weird, that could maybe mean he's scum" Honestly rereading that I feel like HF was blowing shit out of proportion and jumping down Conv's throat. All the while voting the guy Conv had issues with. Do you see why I'm seeing a possible scum!flare here? In fact I don't even think a HF/Damer team is impossible here. I feel like HF has spent most of the game pushing people other than Damer.
Er no? Please reread that
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Also putting reads in spoilers are obnoxious, please don't do that
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How is ruxx free flowing at allllll
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On November 02 2017 23:54 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 23:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Damdred any thoughts on the game so far? Thoughts on TT and Oats? Sure, I wamt damer to xome back and give some thoughts. Initial thought was town but no real follow up has me questioning. Updated read would be nice. TT has fallen for me, the fight he brusged off was somewhat interesting, his reads poat was lackluster, his tone was still ok thougj. He is someone who I sould consider lynching. Zen bjg post was okish, but not enough fo get a solid read on him. At this point seems like he made a big post to get ignored really and it has seemed to work. As for the people up for lynch I dont think I want to lynch them today. As for Oats, should be a healthy amount of fear after last game, but his vote hopping and activity seems more in kine with the game I histed rather than him falling on soneone and afking on a wagon that is going to be lynched like last game.
Rux though
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On November 03 2017 00:58 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 00:49 Damdred wrote:
Lets go baby boy, lots of tt talk bit much votes though The more I read TTs read post the worse it looks. I was gonna summarize each of his reads and why they are so bad, but there's no point when people can just read them themselves. I'm switching to TT.
Why did his earlier posts look so townie that you hard defended him and his later posts look scummy?
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On November 03 2017 03:18 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 02:56 happykrogan wrote:I don't like ruxxar. Him disliking damer, scumreading df and scumreading TT all seems pretty opportunistic. Also he makes strange posts about conv I don'T think town would make On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different. Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing. Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia. In the first post it seems like he is scumreading him. I don't see town making a post like this if he actually think he is town. On November 03 2017 01:14 ruXxar wrote:On November 03 2017 01:08 Conversion wrote:
can we get off this case y'all are wasting thread space
HF votes Damerion b/c he's randomly zealous and pushing people immediately or something like that
Ruxx basically says the same thing ("I like the confidence, it's forced, not sure if one time thing, etc.")
I said his play isn't as good and I get shat on by two people who basically shared the sentiment, but the wording was bad
1) You deliberately used a quote that was from the last game, making it seem like it was something HF said this game. That's not bad wording, that's intentional deceit. 2) The quote you used was wrong, because it was NOT a good scum indicator for damerion, yet you used it anyway pushing your argument as if it had a leg to stand on with HFs name flying high in there. I don't think it was intentional deceit. It wasn't very good to do that by conversion but he explained that he thought it was clear enough that it was last game. Also you don't call anyone deceiving who you don't think is scum. Why should town do something like that? What is opportunistic about my reads?
You literally switched 180 when ticktock started getting additional pressure. If that's not opportunistic, what is?
HF, vivax is a coinflip, we don't lynch coinfljps day 1
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On November 02 2017 16:39 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 14:31 Tictock wrote:Oats if this is what you are talking about re HFvsConcersion... On November 01 2017 09:23 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
You might say that "oh hf but he already said he's finding town this game instead of looking for scummy things that's why it's different!" but without talking about ongoing games he did very well with the previous strategy so I don't see a need to change it up at all. I'm not putting words in HF's myouth-- he has like 2 posts so far, why did you think I was talking about this game On November 01 2017 09:25 Holyflare wrote:
That's a quote from last game
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Where he was town? This is crap bickering about stuff from last game. I tend to zone out when people talk around each other, kus Conv was making a point about HF anyways not Damer. Besides Conv's original read on Damer was basically just "he's different than last game, that's weird, that could maybe mean he's scum" Honestly rereading that I feel like HF was blowing shit out of proportion and jumping down Conv's throat. All the while voting the guy Conv had issues with. Do you see why I'm seeing a possible scum!flare here? In fact I don't even think a HF/Damer team is impossible here. I feel like HF has spent most of the game pushing people other than Damer. I don’t think you actually understood what went down there between me, Conversion and holyflare, so let me recap it for you: 1) Conversion calls damerion scum, due to the fact that damerion has changed his play style. Conversion says this is scummy because holyflare has said that there was no reason for damerion to change his play style since it was working so well for him. only when questioned by me does conversion admit that holyflare never said that this game, but that it was actually a quote from last game. Conversion also made it seem like it was super obvious he was talking about something holyflare said last game. 2) As if that wasn’t bad enough, the argument that conversion claimed holyflare used to call damerion scum was actually wrong. Holy flare last game claimed that damerion was scummy for changing his play style. Well, Damerion was town last game, so holyflares argument was incorrect. Conversion did not seem to have evaluated that part at all and just wanted more credibility to his damerion read by adding holyflares name to his post. The fact that you didn’t understand that is affecting my view of you negatively.
Ok so this looks like the point where you changed your mind. The problem is that he already stated his opinion earlier about the conv and HF confrontation so why did you only think this one was scummy and not the earlier one?
Also bad comprehension was enough to make you go from a hard townread to a scumread? I don't buy it
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On November 02 2017 08:58 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 08:31 Holyflare wrote:
Ticktock I feel like he comes into the game to make comments that aren't particularly difficult and sounds arbitrary and made up and then he leaves again after "contributing". It feels very artificial to me and I have no idea why so many people say they like it. Despite the unorthodox running commentary style, I like the content and reasoning behind his reads. It’s very down to earth and logical. Maybe if I looked hard enough for a reason to call him scum I would call it cookie cutter reads? That a bit of a stretch though. He just seems like your regular plain straight up and down average vanilla townie.
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On November 02 2017 04:09 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 03:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2017 03:59 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:54 darthfoley wrote:On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to m e.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different. Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing. Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia. The jury is still out but you don't think the guy is mafia? So the jury is in? lolwat Yes, the bickering between him and shockey was enough for me. Either they're both scum or theyre both town. tell me why you think that ticktoc is confirmed town? Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 23:44 ruXxar wrote:
Tick tock - I like tick tock. His string of posts shows he’s interested in having an opinion.
His thoughts are flowing well.
He’s a town lean.
I like his tone. Light hearted and jovial, the same way I play when I'm excited to roll town. His reads are good and consistent on HF and Shockey. Reads the game pretty much the same way I do, which makes it look like he doesn't have a whacky agenda. Explains his reads so that you can see where he's coming from with his thought process.
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On November 03 2017 04:17 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 04:05 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2017 16:39 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 14:31 Tictock wrote:Oats if this is what you are talking about re HFvsConcersion... On November 01 2017 09:23 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
You might say that "oh hf but he already said he's finding town this game instead of looking for scummy things that's why it's different!" but without talking about ongoing games he did very well with the previous strategy so I don't see a need to change it up at all. I'm not putting words in HF's myouth-- he has like 2 posts so far, why did you think I was talking about this game On November 01 2017 09:25 Holyflare wrote:
That's a quote from last game
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Where he was town? This is crap bickering about stuff from last game. I tend to zone out when people talk around each other, kus Conv was making a point about HF anyways not Damer. Besides Conv's original read on Damer was basically just "he's different than last game, that's weird, that could maybe mean he's scum" Honestly rereading that I feel like HF was blowing shit out of proportion and jumping down Conv's throat. All the while voting the guy Conv had issues with. Do you see why I'm seeing a possible scum!flare here? In fact I don't even think a HF/Damer team is impossible here. I feel like HF has spent most of the game pushing people other than Damer. I don’t think you actually understood what went down there between me, Conversion and holyflare, so let me recap it for you: 1) Conversion calls damerion scum, due to the fact that damerion has changed his play style. Conversion says this is scummy because holyflare has said that there was no reason for damerion to change his play style since it was working so well for him. only when questioned by me does conversion admit that holyflare never said that this game, but that it was actually a quote from last game. Conversion also made it seem like it was super obvious he was talking about something holyflare said last game. 2) As if that wasn’t bad enough, the argument that conversion claimed holyflare used to call damerion scum was actually wrong. Holy flare last game claimed that damerion was scummy for changing his play style. Well, Damerion was town last game, so holyflares argument was incorrect. Conversion did not seem to have evaluated that part at all and just wanted more credibility to his damerion read by adding holyflares name to his post. The fact that you didn’t understand that is affecting my view of you negatively. Ok so this looks like the point where you changed your mind. The problem is that he already stated his opinion earlier about the conv and HF confrontation so why did you only think this one was scummy and not the earlier one? Also bad comprehension was enough to make you go from a hard townread to a scumread? I don't buy it I feel like I'm having a deja vu. Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 03:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2017 03:59 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:54 darthfoley wrote:On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to m e.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different. Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing. Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia. The jury is still out but you don't think the guy is mafia? So the jury is in? lolwat Yes, the bickering between him and shockey was enough for me. Either they're both scum or theyre both town. tell me why you think that ticktoc is confirmed town? Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 23:44 ruXxar wrote:
Tick tock - I like tick tock. His string of posts shows he’s interested in having an opinion.
His thoughts are flowing well.
He’s a town lean.
Seriously stop deluding yourself
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On November 03 2017 04:22 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 04:05 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2017 16:39 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 14:31 Tictock wrote:Oats if this is what you are talking about re HFvsConcersion... On November 01 2017 09:23 Conversion wrote:On October 15 2017 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
You might say that "oh hf but he already said he's finding town this game instead of looking for scummy things that's why it's different!" but without talking about ongoing games he did very well with the previous strategy so I don't see a need to change it up at all. I'm not putting words in HF's myouth-- he has like 2 posts so far, why did you think I was talking about this game On November 01 2017 09:25 Holyflare wrote:
That's a quote from last game
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Where he was town? This is crap bickering about stuff from last game. I tend to zone out when people talk around each other, kus Conv was making a point about HF anyways not Damer. Besides Conv's original read on Damer was basically just "he's different than last game, that's weird, that could maybe mean he's scum" Honestly rereading that I feel like HF was blowing shit out of proportion and jumping down Conv's throat. All the while voting the guy Conv had issues with. Do you see why I'm seeing a possible scum!flare here? In fact I don't even think a HF/Damer team is impossible here. I feel like HF has spent most of the game pushing people other than Damer. I don’t think you actually understood what went down there between me, Conversion and holyflare, so let me recap it for you: 1) Conversion calls damerion scum, due to the fact that damerion has changed his play style. Conversion says this is scummy because holyflare has said that there was no reason for damerion to change his play style since it was working so well for him. only when questioned by me does conversion admit that holyflare never said that this game, but that it was actually a quote from last game. Conversion also made it seem like it was super obvious he was talking about something holyflare said last game. 2) As if that wasn’t bad enough, the argument that conversion claimed holyflare used to call damerion scum was actually wrong. Holy flare last game claimed that damerion was scummy for changing his play style. Well, Damerion was town last game, so holyflares argument was incorrect. Conversion did not seem to have evaluated that part at all and just wanted more credibility to his damerion read by adding holyflares name to his post. The fact that you didn’t understand that is affecting my view of you negatively. Ok so this looks like the point where you changed your mind. The problem is that he already stated his opinion earlier about the conv and HF confrontation so why did you only think this one was scummy and not the earlier one? Also bad comprehension was enough to make you go from a hard townread to a scumread? I don't buy it But to answer your question. Yes , it was a very pivotal and important moment in the game for me, and he failed to see it.
Im sorry what? Your scumreads were me and DF, none of who were involved in that "pivotal moment". You are so full of shit it's disgusting
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On November 02 2017 05:56 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 04:48 darthfoley wrote:
Yea I wanna hear who ruxx thinks is scum. And other people if possible Sure. Right now you are my top scum read. 1) You're being wishy washy trying to coast by. Casting shade and town reads around you pretty lightly. You're keeping every option open, snaking your way around from read to read. 2) This post is incredibly nitpicky and trying to infuse meaning where there is none. One of the worst posts in the game. It's very over explainy and trying to siphon meaning out of very word instead of trying to understand the overall message of the post. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:
I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about.
Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary
Let me break down the bolded sentence for you
1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game
2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential
3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off?
4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy.
So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger
Besides you there's a few people on my to watch list: Oats - for the same reason of also blowing things up and putting emphasis on worthless fact as if they were gold and had some divine scum meaning. Damerion - I detected a change in meta behavior, need more posts to evaluate. Shockey - I know I'm biased due to meta. The threshold for where that meta no longer holds is very thin. But still resides as town. Also the bickering with conversion tips in his favor. HF - His damerion vote with no explanation was a red flag, but his later followup was ok. He's awfully quiet this game, but he has an excuse. Otherwise keeping an eye on him as his meta is different from last game. A bit more laid back. Not sure how to interpret it, will need to wait until he makes a real push.
In this post, you literally don't mention the "pivotal moment" at all and it clearly wasn't as important as you claim it is.
Guys, rux is lying to you all and should be lynched today.
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Guys please talk to me why you don't want to lynch Ruxx
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On November 03 2017 03:11 ruXxar wrote:Sure, I'll force him to play.
Why did you vote for a coinflip over your "sure" scumread TICKTOC
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Vivax has 3 posts, he is a horrible lynch today
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On November 03 2017 04:51 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 04:34 Damerion wrote:On November 03 2017 04:30 ruXxar wrote:On November 03 2017 03:44 Damerion wrote:
Hello,
I just woke up from my shift. As such I obviously have a lot of catching uo to do.
I have been trying to keep up with the thread right now and I am in the neighborhood of scum being in these five people.
Shockey/RuxXar/Ticktock/Zen
The fifth person I do not want to say quite yet as I do not want the gane to develop into a war if I am wrong.
But I feel like at least two mafia are in this group listed.
And as I filter dive I will place my vote on Shockey as a place holder. Can I hear your opinion on ticktock and zen? In the moat concise way possible, Very little interaction between either of them. Zen made a rather large post that has enabled him to hide in the aether. Both are very sideline characters not involved in the lynch, and really there posts are mostly surface level things that come from skimming the thread. Overall I would say tt is a 6/10 read and zen is slightly stronger at 7/10. Shockeyy filter is mafia oriented still I believe. I don't know about zen. I feel like when he posts he's not afraid to put himself out there. I'd like to see him post more for sure. Don't want to lynch him today.
Why don't you want to lunch him but you want to lunch Vivax who has done pretty much the same thing as him?!?
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On November 03 2017 05:00 Holyflare wrote:
Oats give me a breakdown if ruxxar thing
He's been tense and reactionary, as opposed to his claimed town attitude of something that isn't tense and reactionary.
He hard defended TICKTOC till a random post which tick tock was just clarifying something he said earlier somehow made rux do a 180. But he claims he didn't do a 180.
He claims that the conversion mistake of quoting you last game talking about damerion was a "pivotal moment" but non of his reads, town or scum come from that whole situation.
And now he's just throwing softballs at damerion for no reason.
How can you tell Vivax is mafia over 3 posts?!?
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