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If one of conv vs shockey is scum it is probably conversion.
But tbh I think it's tvt
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On November 03 2017 01:52 ruXxar wrote:
In general it feels like you've just skimmed the thread and not actually taken the time to really understand the arguments that people have been making.
Would you say that is an accurate description?
He says he doesn't have time becuase of work. Said it even before he knew his alignment so I don't know how this makes him scum.
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I don't like ruxxars post. It says tt is scum because he doesn't make a super detailed list post.
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On November 02 2017 23:54 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 23:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Damdred any thoughts on the game so far? Thoughts on TT and Oats? TT has fallen for me, the fight he brusged off was somewhat interesting, his reads poat was lackluster, his tone was still ok thougj. He is someone who I sould consider lynching.
You didn't said more about him than that his read posts lacked a bit. I don't know how he should interact with you about that.
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On November 03 2017 02:04 ruXxar wrote:
Why are you so defensive about TT krogan?
I think your points are weak
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I don't townread him btw. He is null for me.
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On November 03 2017 02:26 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 02:03 happykrogan wrote:On November 02 2017 23:54 Damdred wrote:On November 02 2017 23:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Damdred any thoughts on the game so far? Thoughts on TT and Oats? TT has fallen for me, the fight he brusged off was somewhat interesting, his reads poat was lackluster, his tone was still ok thougj. He is someone who I sould consider lynching. You didn't said more about him than that his read posts lacked a bit. I don't know how he should interact with you about that. Im one of his bottom reads atm, I call him scum for him falling, not responding to whats actually happening in the thread and shoddy reads. And he ignores me. Does that make sense to you?
At least it's better reasoning than saying he has a lackluster list post but his tone is ok.
I can kinda see where you're coming from. I'm still not convinced he's scum though.
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I don't like ruxxar.
Him disliking damer,
scumreading df
and scumreading TT all seems pretty opportunistic.
Also he makes strange posts about conv I don'T think town would make
On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing.
On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different. Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing. Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia.
In the first post it seems like he is scumreading him. I don't see town making a post like this if he actually think he is town.
On November 03 2017 01:14 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 01:08 Conversion wrote:
can we get off this case y'all are wasting thread space
HF votes Damerion b/c he's randomly zealous and pushing people immediately or something like that
Ruxx basically says the same thing ("I like the confidence, it's forced, not sure if one time thing, etc.")
I said his play isn't as good and I get shat on by two people who basically shared the sentiment, but the wording was bad
1) You deliberately used a quote that was from the last game, making it seem like it was something HF said this game. That's not bad wording, that's intentional deceit. 2) The quote you used was wrong, because it was NOT a good scum indicator for damerion, yet you used it anyway pushing your argument as if it had a leg to stand on with HFs name flying high in there.
I don't think it was intentional deceit. It wasn't very good to do that by conversion but he explained that he thought it was clear enough that it was last game.
Also you don't call anyone deceiving who you don't think is scum. Why should town do something like that?
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On November 03 2017 03:35 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 03:18 ruXxar wrote:On November 03 2017 02:56 happykrogan wrote:I don't like ruxxar. Him disliking damer, scumreading df and scumreading TT all seems pretty opportunistic. Also he makes strange posts about conv I don'T think town would make On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different. Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing. Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia. In the first post it seems like he is scumreading him. I don't see town making a post like this if he actually think he is town. On November 03 2017 01:14 ruXxar wrote:On November 03 2017 01:08 Conversion wrote:
can we get off this case y'all are wasting thread space
HF votes Damerion b/c he's randomly zealous and pushing people immediately or something like that
Ruxx basically says the same thing ("I like the confidence, it's forced, not sure if one time thing, etc.")
I said his play isn't as good and I get shat on by two people who basically shared the sentiment, but the wording was bad
1) You deliberately used a quote that was from the last game, making it seem like it was something HF said this game. That's not bad wording, that's intentional deceit. 2) The quote you used was wrong, because it was NOT a good scum indicator for damerion, yet you used it anyway pushing your argument as if it had a leg to stand on with HFs name flying high in there. I don't think it was intentional deceit. It wasn't very good to do that by conversion but he explained that he thought it was clear enough that it was last game. Also you don't call anyone deceiving who you don't think is scum. Why should town do something like that? What is opportunistic about my reads? You literally switched 180 when ticktock started getting additional pressure. If that's not opportunistic, what is? HF, vivax is a coinflip, we don't lynch coinfljps day 1
This.
Also you scumread/disliked df and damer shortly after scumreads on them appeared.
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On November 03 2017 04:14 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 03:59 happykrogan wrote:On November 03 2017 03:35 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 03 2017 03:18 ruXxar wrote:On November 03 2017 02:56 happykrogan wrote:I don't like ruxxar. Him disliking damer, scumreading df and scumreading TT all seems pretty opportunistic. Also he makes strange posts about conv I don'T think town would make On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different. Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing. Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia. In the first post it seems like he is scumreading him. I don't see town making a post like this if he actually think he is town. On November 03 2017 01:14 ruXxar wrote:On November 03 2017 01:08 Conversion wrote:
can we get off this case y'all are wasting thread space
HF votes Damerion b/c he's randomly zealous and pushing people immediately or something like that
Ruxx basically says the same thing ("I like the confidence, it's forced, not sure if one time thing, etc.")
I said his play isn't as good and I get shat on by two people who basically shared the sentiment, but the wording was bad
1) You deliberately used a quote that was from the last game, making it seem like it was something HF said this game. That's not bad wording, that's intentional deceit. 2) The quote you used was wrong, because it was NOT a good scum indicator for damerion, yet you used it anyway pushing your argument as if it had a leg to stand on with HFs name flying high in there. I don't think it was intentional deceit. It wasn't very good to do that by conversion but he explained that he thought it was clear enough that it was last game. Also you don't call anyone deceiving who you don't think is scum. Why should town do something like that? What is opportunistic about my reads? You literally switched 180 when ticktock started getting additional pressure. If that's not opportunistic, what is? HF, vivax is a coinflip, we don't lynch coinfljps day 1 This. Also you scumread/disliked df and damer shortly after scumreads on them appeared. I've posted my own reads on these people. If you disagree with the points i've made then break down what you think is scummy about my reads.
It is scummy that you made them directly after they were being called out by others.
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On November 03 2017 05:19 happykrogan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 04:14 ruXxar wrote:On November 03 2017 03:59 happykrogan wrote:On November 03 2017 03:35 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 03 2017 03:18 ruXxar wrote:On November 03 2017 02:56 happykrogan wrote:I don't like ruxxar. Him disliking damer, scumreading df and scumreading TT all seems pretty opportunistic. Also he makes strange posts about conv I don'T think town would make On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.
I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.
Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.
and conversion is coming off that way to me.
But I got way off track with that post meh I agree about DF. About conversion... the jury is still out. He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing. Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different. Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing. Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia. In the first post it seems like he is scumreading him. I don't see town making a post like this if he actually think he is town. On November 03 2017 01:14 ruXxar wrote:On November 03 2017 01:08 Conversion wrote:
can we get off this case y'all are wasting thread space
HF votes Damerion b/c he's randomly zealous and pushing people immediately or something like that
Ruxx basically says the same thing ("I like the confidence, it's forced, not sure if one time thing, etc.")
I said his play isn't as good and I get shat on by two people who basically shared the sentiment, but the wording was bad
1) You deliberately used a quote that was from the last game, making it seem like it was something HF said this game. That's not bad wording, that's intentional deceit. 2) The quote you used was wrong, because it was NOT a good scum indicator for damerion, yet you used it anyway pushing your argument as if it had a leg to stand on with HFs name flying high in there. I don't think it was intentional deceit. It wasn't very good to do that by conversion but he explained that he thought it was clear enough that it was last game. Also you don't call anyone deceiving who you don't think is scum. Why should town do something like that? What is opportunistic about my reads? You literally switched 180 when ticktock started getting additional pressure. If that's not opportunistic, what is? HF, vivax is a coinflip, we don't lynch coinfljps day 1 This. Also you scumread/disliked df and damer shortly after scumreads on them appeared. I've posted my own reads on these people. If you disagree with the points i've made then break down what you think is scummy about my reads. It is scummy that you made them directly after they were being called out by others.
You're reads weren't really new. You maybe tried to find some other things you can write on them so people see that you make your own posts and you can defend yourself with this argument.
On November 02 2017 05:56 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 04:48 darthfoley wrote:
Yea I wanna hear who ruxx thinks is scum. And other people if possible Sure. Right now you are my top scum read.
1) You're being wishy washy trying to coast by. Casting shade and town reads around you pretty lightly.
You're keeping every option open, snaking your way around from read to read.
2) This post is incredibly nitpicky and trying to infuse meaning where there is none. One of the worst posts in the game.
It's very over explainy and trying to siphon meaning out of very word instead of trying to understand the overall message of the post.
Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:
I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about.
Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary
Let me break down the bolded sentence for you
1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game
2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential
3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off?
4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy.
So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger
Besides you there's a few people on my to watch list: Oats - for the same reason of also blowing things up and putting emphasis on worthless fact as if they were gold and had some divine scum meaning. Damerion - I detected a change in meta behavior, need more posts to evaluate. Shockey - I know I'm biased due to meta. The threshold for where that meta no longer holds is very thin. But still resides as town. Also the bickering with conversion tips in his favor. HF - His damerion vote with no explanation was a red flag, but his later followup was ok. He's awfully quiet this game, but he has an excuse. Otherwise keeping an eye on him as his meta is different from last game. A bit more laid back. Not sure how to interpret it, will need to wait until he makes a real push.
This are the only "new" points I found (I already said why I think your reasons to be on TT are weak). And I think they are very easy to fake so that you can bring your defense now.
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On November 03 2017 05:47 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 05:44 Tictock wrote:We had a late lynch rush at my morning job so I have shit for time today, basically just the next half hour and I need to eat lunch in that time as well. No time for filters, just gunna skim a bit. This caught my eye: On November 03 2017 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 03 2017 01:19 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2017 00:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I feel a bit odd about TT too, as some one who understands the amount of hours worked, I wouldn't come in posting my thoughts after each person's post in the thread, this caused him to change his view on the game all the time, something I feel like scum wouldn't even care about anyways.
I would of gathered my thoughts first on the overall conversation, and then provide quick bullets on each of the topics i wanted to discuss; Zen's big post here. I felt like TT was just trying to string together posts after each response in the thread to make it look like he was active, while letting his scum buddies do the rest when he's not available. This is literally how I play every game. I like to respond to things as soon as I read them else I feel like I will have a harder time recalling things later on. And yes I always get called out for it as well. And how many of those times were you actually scum? I'm not voting for you yet cause that's not an indication that you can be scum, but it definitely leans towards it. I don't care much for why you're voting for me, but if you're thinking I'm scum over the others that are very likely to be scum, then you obviously see the game differently. First, in response. Hardly any, I think? I haven't been playing much mafia and I've only rolled Town in the past year. Probably an easy thing to check via the database. Second, it occurres to me that scum!Shokey has everything to gain by pushing me here when there is clearly several people scum reading me and he is in danger of being lynched ATM. ##UnvoteGunna put my vote on DF and try to catch up. Lmao okay dude. @Krogan, you seem to have come around to my way of thinking regarding ruxx. Does this mean you're town reading me?
Ruxxar is definetely more scummy than you I want to lynch him today.
I'll look into you again after the lynch but us having the same opinion does make it less likely I guess
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On November 03 2017 05:53 happykrogan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 05:47 darthfoley wrote:On November 03 2017 05:44 Tictock wrote:We had a late lynch rush at my morning job so I have shit for time today, basically just the next half hour and I need to eat lunch in that time as well. No time for filters, just gunna skim a bit. This caught my eye: On November 03 2017 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 03 2017 01:19 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2017 00:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I feel a bit odd about TT too, as some one who understands the amount of hours worked, I wouldn't come in posting my thoughts after each person's post in the thread, this caused him to change his view on the game all the time, something I feel like scum wouldn't even care about anyways.
I would of gathered my thoughts first on the overall conversation, and then provide quick bullets on each of the topics i wanted to discuss; Zen's big post here. I felt like TT was just trying to string together posts after each response in the thread to make it look like he was active, while letting his scum buddies do the rest when he's not available. This is literally how I play every game. I like to respond to things as soon as I read them else I feel like I will have a harder time recalling things later on. And yes I always get called out for it as well. And how many of those times were you actually scum? I'm not voting for you yet cause that's not an indication that you can be scum, but it definitely leans towards it. I don't care much for why you're voting for me, but if you're thinking I'm scum over the others that are very likely to be scum, then you obviously see the game differently. First, in response. Hardly any, I think? I haven't been playing much mafia and I've only rolled Town in the past year. Probably an easy thing to check via the database. Second, it occurres to me that scum!Shokey has everything to gain by pushing me here when there is clearly several people scum reading me and he is in danger of being lynched ATM. ##UnvoteGunna put my vote on DF and try to catch up. Lmao okay dude. @Krogan, you seem to have come around to my way of thinking regarding ruxx. Does this mean you're town reading me? Ruxxar is definetely more scummy than you I want to lynch him today. I'll look into you again after the lynch but us having the same opinion does make it less likely I guess
If ruxxar dies and flips scum I will townread you
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On November 03 2017 07:09 Rels wrote:Final Day 1 vote count![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/S6r16kP.jpg) Tictock (4): Damdred, ruXxar, ruXxar, Damerion, The_Zen_ManruxXar (4): Oatsmaster, Darthfoley, happykrogan, Tictock, conversion ShoCkeyy (2): Tictock, Oatsmaster, Conversion, Vivax, Damerion, the_zen_men Vivax (1): Holyflare , ruXxarDamerion (1): Holyflare, ShoCkeyy darthfoley (0): Oatsmaster, happykrogan, ruXxar, The_Zen_Man, TictockConversion (0): Conversion, ruxXarOatsmaster (0): DarthfoleyHolyflare (0): OatsmasterNot voted (1): Breshke Tictock is the lynch.
If the last two votes would have counted
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Darthfoley made some really good points about the possibility of ruxxar bussing.
I doubted it first after the flip nut it's actually pretty likely.
A vigshot would really help though.
I think there is no reasons not to shoot because in the OP it seems like he can shoot every night.
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On November 03 2017 19:54 ruXxar wrote:Some people seem to have lost all sense of reason. Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 07:09 Rels wrote:
Final Day 1 vote count
Tictock (4): Damdred, ruXxar, Damerion, The_Zen_Man
ruxXar (4): Oatsmaster, Darthfoley, happykrogan, Tictock
ShoCkeyy (2): Conversion, Vivax,
Tictock is the lynch. If I am mafia with tick tock here, I would jump on shockey together with tick tock. The only time where this doesn't make sense is if the mafia team is literally me, shockey and ticktock. A couple people who haven't lost their heads picked up on this (damdred, shockey)
If you jumped together that would have been extremly scummy.
People would think you're obviously partners. But how it is now you got a lot of towncred from it.
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I guess df's dead means either rux or oats is scum?
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On November 04 2017 09:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2017 09:15 Conversion wrote:
DF was pushing ruxx pretty hard, so maybe scum shot him to make us lynch ruxx for "information" to then lead into Oats lynch?
or one of ruxx/oats is mafia, and they're trying to make noise to lead us off DF's last posts? hmm Why would I kill DF?
Why would I kill DF?
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On November 04 2017 09:24 happykrogan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2017 09:16 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 04 2017 09:15 Conversion wrote:
DF was pushing ruxx pretty hard, so maybe scum shot him to make us lynch ruxx for "information" to then lead into Oats lynch?
or one of ruxx/oats is mafia, and they're trying to make noise to lead us off DF's last posts? hmm Why would I kill DF? Why would I kill DF?
He is townreading me and says you or ruxxar is scum which would be an easy mislynch if you are both town
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On November 04 2017 09:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2017 09:25 happykrogan wrote:On November 04 2017 09:24 happykrogan wrote:On November 04 2017 09:16 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 04 2017 09:15 Conversion wrote:
DF was pushing ruxx pretty hard, so maybe scum shot him to make us lynch ruxx for "information" to then lead into Oats lynch?
or one of ruxx/oats is mafia, and they're trying to make noise to lead us off DF's last posts? hmm Why would I kill DF? Why would I kill DF? He is townreading me and says you or ruxxar is scum which would be an easy mislynch if you are both town Because you think he's gonna change his mind
No that's weak. I probably would have killed damdred who already found mafia.
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