Didn't really have an update tbh. He was just being too nice towards me all game and it's my blind spot so I just put a mental note to be wary. To be honest I don't even know the reasons he was lynched :D

Holyflare

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October 15 2017 23:24 GMT

#824

On October 16 2017 08:02 ruXxar wrote:

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Mistake how?

Mistake because Conversion could have just jumped to a non partner wagon that was building to save the team? I still think Damerion is independently fishy though but less than before.

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 10:54 GMT

#843

On October 16 2017 18:52 xenonn40 wrote:
I was leaning towards voting Damerion, because if he is not Mafia, I think it is pretty likely that the other mafia are among Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Oatsmaster.

Honestly, I could be swayed to vote for any of these 4 at at this point.

And it does make sense, as some people have pointed out, that the situations where it makes sense for Damerion to be Mafia are very improbable.

Here's the thing, Damerion COULD be town but only in a world where FF/Oats are also mafia. That's also not entirely unlikely at all. Seeing as Conversion voted Damerion it kind of changes things a lot, that was their out to save Conversion most likely so mafia is almost certainly one of FF/Oats.

I don't think Conversion votes his partner in that situation instead of jumping on the next highest wagon ruxxar/oats.

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 11:21 GMT

#846

No, I'm here to play mafia which is a game of deduction using reasoning and logic. That's why I call people stupid because if I pose a case toward people and they don't follow it they need >>>reasons<<< to not follow it and to engage me in a healthy debate. It's frustrating to put effort into a game where you test your deduction/reasoning/convincing/debating skills to be met with "Lol I think he's town" or "Nah this other guy cos no reasons".

I only call people stupid that don't engage me.

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 11:24 GMT

#847

I am, at times, abrasive because I don't appreciate other people's styles of just one liner irrelevant unexplained reads. It's annoying. Sorry if I annoy you, I don't mean to.

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 11:25 GMT

#848

For what it's worth at this juncture, until we know the alignment of Damerion it's kind of hard to lynch anyone on the Conversion wagon. I think focus should be diverted at Oats/FF/Grack/Onegu with a bias towards Oats and FF.

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 11:30 GMT

#849

On October 15 2017 02:22 Holyflare wrote:

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It's interesting you mention why Damerion over FF when in this post you highlight that you wouldn't lynch FF over Xenonn and that FF is playing just like he was in a game you lynched him (and was presumably town) and that Damerion looks lacklustre.

Very interesting.

I think I made a very good point without realising it. Reading my filter is a gold mine. He shits all over ff constantly but always avoids trying to vote him over other people.

When asked who he would vote he says Damerion over FF but then when you look back on his quoted post he'd lynch Xenonn above FF even so the fact he mentioned Damerion vs FF was really strange at the time. Probably partners.

##unvote
##vote fecalfeast

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 14:06 GMT

#853

about 0 worth really

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 14:19 GMT

#855

but you witnessed the power of the bus just last game damd

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 15:37 GMT

#859

So, FF, you're saying that the mafia team is Conversion/Damerion/X and that I give you "Scummy vibes" but you've actually voted the same wagon as me day 1 and had similar reasoning to me and then effectively been sheeping me all game. Now, when I spent the whole night talking about Damerion you're voting him again for similar reasons so:

1) What gives you scummy vibes from me and why are you just lynching Damerion if he was the guy I was pushing non-stop?

2) Why are you voting Damerion when Conversion also voted for Damerion instead of the next highest wagon on Oats or Ruxxar?

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 15:39 GMT

#860

On October 17 2017 00:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ya ok damdred isn't scum I'll just vote damerion again last vame he was 3/3 on scum by day 2 and today nothing afaict

And why is he not mafia? You're living in a world where Conversion AND Damerion are mafia right now, Damdred is saying that he's not mafia because he hammered on Conversion INSTEAD of Damerion but in your world they're both mafia so why does Damdred suddenly become not mafia for hammering one of two partners?

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 15:47 GMT

#861

Oats wasn't even a wagon until right at the last minute when Damerion switched to him tbh.

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 16:33 GMT

#864

On October 17 2017 01:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Good point idk I haven't read that far into it

that it?

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 16:55 GMT

#868

There were two main wagons, one being Damdred's town read (Damerion) and the other being Conversion. I don't think Damdred would have been able to switch off Conversion at that point effectively sacrificing Damerion because he'd come under a lot of flak.

Was it a bus? It's pretty unlikely. Is it possible it was a bus? It's not impossible.

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 16:56 GMT

#869

Especially with the posts FF is making I think it's pretty likely he's one of the other mafia players.

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 18:13 GMT

#883

There's 24 hours yet for you to care about being lynched as mafia though.

Holyflare

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October 16 2017 18:15 GMT

#884

Why are people lynching damdred though?

Holyflare

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October 17 2017 06:26 GMT

#931

On October 17 2017 14:13 Oatsmaster wrote:

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I cant believe that you believe that it makes you town.
Thats ridiculous
##vote FF

????

So damdred is super scummy and you complain everyone is falling for his bussing strategies and when he just reiterated the point you're making you vote ff??