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MrLonelyClock
Profile Joined June 2017
87 Posts
October 17 2017 03:19 GMT
#921
On October 17 2017 12:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 12:10 MrLonelyClock wrote:
On October 17 2017 05:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 05:19 MrLonelyClock wrote:
On October 17 2017 03:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 03:15 Holyflare wrote:
Why are people lynching damdred though?

Why aren't people lynching damdred?

Do you think there is no scum that voted on damerion (apart from conv)? You think they would let one member die day 1 to a lynch that could have been easily prevented by them?

I think that it's pointless to assume that mafia know how to play or don't know how to play.

Literally so many games where mafia have done stupid shit that totally screwed town over when we assumed that they knew how to play. Same the other way around.

I disagree. If you assume scum is shit then we will surely lose. Assume scum knows what they are doing and if it turns out they don't then we will catch them eventually. Lynching somebody day 2 who helped lynch scum day 1 is not only a bad idea but a stupid one. There are 2 scum left so take Damdred out of the equation for today and focus on everyone else.

Lol I'm not saying assume scum is shit. I'm saying don't assume anything. Which is what everyone is doing.

Other than your obvious bias, what can you say about damdred that is town?

Ignoring scum player trying to divert town to form a bad lynch for today.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 17 2017 03:20 GMT
#922
On October 17 2017 12:19 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 12:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 12:10 MrLonelyClock wrote:
On October 17 2017 05:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 05:19 MrLonelyClock wrote:
On October 17 2017 03:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 03:15 Holyflare wrote:
Why are people lynching damdred though?

Why aren't people lynching damdred?

Do you think there is no scum that voted on damerion (apart from conv)? You think they would let one member die day 1 to a lynch that could have been easily prevented by them?

I think that it's pointless to assume that mafia know how to play or don't know how to play.

Literally so many games where mafia have done stupid shit that totally screwed town over when we assumed that they knew how to play. Same the other way around.

I disagree. If you assume scum is shit then we will surely lose. Assume scum knows what they are doing and if it turns out they don't then we will catch them eventually. Lynching somebody day 2 who helped lynch scum day 1 is not only a bad idea but a stupid one. There are 2 scum left so take Damdred out of the equation for today and focus on everyone else.

Lol I'm not saying assume scum is shit. I'm saying don't assume anything. Which is what everyone is doing.

Other than your obvious bias, what can you say about damdred that is town?

Ignoring scum player trying to divert town to form a bad lynch for today.

Since you can't know if oats is scum or town how is this helping?

A lot of people bus on TL mafia
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 17 2017 03:21 GMT
#923
well I guess you could know but I don't think you;re scum
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
MrLonelyClock
Profile Joined June 2017
87 Posts
October 17 2017 03:22 GMT
#924
On October 17 2017 12:20 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 12:19 MrLonelyClock wrote:
On October 17 2017 12:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 12:10 MrLonelyClock wrote:
On October 17 2017 05:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 05:19 MrLonelyClock wrote:
On October 17 2017 03:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 03:15 Holyflare wrote:
Why are people lynching damdred though?

Why aren't people lynching damdred?

Do you think there is no scum that voted on damerion (apart from conv)? You think they would let one member die day 1 to a lynch that could have been easily prevented by them?

I think that it's pointless to assume that mafia know how to play or don't know how to play.

Literally so many games where mafia have done stupid shit that totally screwed town over when we assumed that they knew how to play. Same the other way around.

I disagree. If you assume scum is shit then we will surely lose. Assume scum knows what they are doing and if it turns out they don't then we will catch them eventually. Lynching somebody day 2 who helped lynch scum day 1 is not only a bad idea but a stupid one. There are 2 scum left so take Damdred out of the equation for today and focus on everyone else.

Lol I'm not saying assume scum is shit. I'm saying don't assume anything. Which is what everyone is doing.

Other than your obvious bias, what can you say about damdred that is town?

Ignoring scum player trying to divert town to form a bad lynch for today.

Since you can't know if oats is scum or town how is this helping?

A lot of people bus on TL mafia

Found 3rd scum. Ez game boys/girls. lets go.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 17 2017 04:07 GMT
#925
If you mean the general case of I am sort of lazy this game. Yes, but that doesnt make me scum. It makes me lazy or doing things for a reason.

I havent publizied a read list today, and i really do t have a real want of doing it. Lot of people fit this mold actually, doesnt make anyone scum. Just need to figure where people stand on others.

As for the charge i am not figuring the game out, i figured it out enough to vote scum out. So score one for me bitches. (most loving manner possible)

I dont really have much else to say on this case, just feels like grasping atm.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 05:13 GMT
#926
On October 17 2017 13:07 Damdred wrote:

As for the charge i am not figuring the game out, i figured it out enough to vote scum out. So score one for me bitches. (most loving manner possible)


I cant believe that you believe that it makes you town.
Thats ridiculous
##vote FF
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 05:14 GMT
#927
On October 17 2017 12:16 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Also this afk stuff by so many players is annoying as heck. It's so dead compared to Day 1 and it's less than 18 till lynch. Speak up townies, we need to get a good scum lynch again.

So are you confident or not confident in your reads? Cause this reads like you really really want affirmation from other people. Which is unusual
No gg, No skill.
MrLonelyClock
Profile Joined June 2017
87 Posts
October 17 2017 05:26 GMT
#928
On October 17 2017 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 12:16 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Also this afk stuff by so many players is annoying as heck. It's so dead compared to Day 1 and it's less than 18 till lynch. Speak up townies, we need to get a good scum lynch again.

So are you confident or not confident in your reads? Cause this reads like you really really want affirmation from other people. Which is unusual

Confident. Just no1 is really around but 5-6 people atm.

As an aside does anybody know if coolTLname afk's again if he will get kicked or replaced or something?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 05:34 GMT
#929
On October 17 2017 14:26 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 12:16 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Also this afk stuff by so many players is annoying as heck. It's so dead compared to Day 1 and it's less than 18 till lynch. Speak up townies, we need to get a good scum lynch again.

So are you confident or not confident in your reads? Cause this reads like you really really want affirmation from other people. Which is unusual

Confident. Just no1 is really around but 5-6 people atm.

As an aside does anybody know if coolTLname afk's again if he will get kicked or replaced or something?

he should be replaced.

Look, im not saying that people off the wagon are town, im saying dont give a free pass to people JUST because they are on the wagon.

Also FF is super scum lol
No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 17 2017 06:22 GMT
#930
On October 17 2017 08:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
What I'm saying is that if he is town, there should be other supporting evidence other than the vote, but all the supporting evidence shows that he's mafia.


What I'm saying is that if he's scum, he's helped us to lynch scum, aka he's helping town.

If he keeps helping town getting our preferred lynches through, then I don't see a reason why you wouldn't want keep him around.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 17 2017 06:26 GMT
#931
On October 17 2017 14:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 13:07 Damdred wrote:

As for the charge i am not figuring the game out, i figured it out enough to vote scum out. So score one for me bitches. (most loving manner possible)


I cant believe that you believe that it makes you town.
Thats ridiculous
##vote FF


????

So damdred is super scummy and you complain everyone is falling for his bussing strategies and when he just reiterated the point you're making you vote ff??
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 06:28 GMT
#932
On October 17 2017 15:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 14:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 13:07 Damdred wrote:

As for the charge i am not figuring the game out, i figured it out enough to vote scum out. So score one for me bitches. (most loving manner possible)


I cant believe that you believe that it makes you town.
Thats ridiculous
##vote FF


????

So damdred is super scummy and you complain everyone is falling for his bussing strategies and when he just reiterated the point you're making you vote ff??

He obviously isnt getting lynched today dude. Come on, you can read thread sentiment
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 06:29 GMT
#933
On October 17 2017 15:22 ruXxar wrote:
If he keeps helping town getting our preferred lynches through, then I don't see a reason why you wouldn't want keep him around.

Because I think hes mafia??!?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 06:29 GMT
#934
Like literally his defence is "nah dude im town you're wrong"
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 06:31 GMT
#935
On October 16 2017 10:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2017 08:40 Damdred wrote:
I sort of want a wagon on me to build so i can shatter it.

Sure thing boss

##vote damdred

On October 16 2017 10:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2017 08:20 MrLonelyClock wrote:
On October 16 2017 08:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Actually I think we should kill Fecalfeast. His scum reads are all just the 3 people who took pressure yesterday plus he was one of the people on the Damerion wagon and I noticed this call out from Darthfoley.

On October 14 2017 07:17 darthfoley wrote:
Okay, so i really like happykrogan guy. Which makes me also like HF, because he drew the same conclusion that I did: I doubt a newbie like krogan would be this active and not be afraid to call someone out as first time mafia.

I think ruxxar is town, but I can understand why people-- especially new players-- might interpret his play as mafia. I also think Oats is more likely town than not. He was one of the first players to get the game moving, and I like his pressure on the LonelyClock dude. Still waiting for an answer on this, I think

On October 13 2017 15:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 13 2017 14:49 MrLonelyClock wrote:

I agreed about ruxxar posting fluff. Me voting on ruxxar != me thinking he is mafia atm. But I can see how you could come to that conclusion now. I guess we will have to disagree on the counterpoints validity.


So why are you voting for him?


Don't like Damdred or FF right now.

FF:

On October 14 2017 00:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like I said early on, ruxxar is trying too hard


On October 14 2017 01:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tbh i think ruxxar not giving a shit seems towny


This progression is odd and without any sort of explanation. The first post also doesn't say anything. People can try hard from either alignment.

Also strikes me as odd that he's scum reading Damerion for unearned town read on FF...

On October 14 2017 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 14 2017 02:45 MrLonelyClock wrote:
fecal if you think ruxxar is towny then who do you think currently is the most scummy then (can be 1 or more)?

Damerion for giving me a town read for basocally no reason. Seems tmi to me


When Damdred has somehow managed to townread like 6 people and put them into "no lynch" pile just 24h into the game. Yet no mention of Damdred. It's like he doesn't exist.

Speaking of Damdred

On October 14 2017 03:21 Damdred wrote:
Ok, so I feel a little guilty at this point in time and I will try to be tge old Damdred this game.

Fact check away on my reads this train aint got no breaks and i aint got time to quote on phone.

Town Reads:

Damerion, he has this thing he does as town where he will have this skrt of mission statement about how he will approach the game. He has checked that, he gives clear concise reada with hard reasoning behind it, done. He also seems to try to draw people into conversation instead of existing.

Rux rux baby: Off the cuff read, the eay he responds to the pressure is town. Does t care, tries to be helpful and then establishes where he wants to be in the game. I think hes just going to be town for the tone and the lressure, but his reads were not bad.

If anyone tries to lynch rux at least today I will let slip the dogs of war and create chaos.

FF: Hey buddy we should work together, care free attitude. Gives some opinions still a bit weak on a few points, overall would not kynch today.

Gracky: Posts his thoughts, goes against thread sentiment a post or two ago. Seems to be looking where others dont, no lynch today.

Oats: Seemed to be reading the game a d his lressure wasnt horrid. It is defi ately not top town worthy but enough for a pass.

Xenon and nylonelylock are both town i feel for how they approached the game as newbs. Meh they were soitting fire earlier

Everyone else is in this null range besides hf who I love dearly but am ignoring until he wants cuddles.


Besides the fact that Damdred has only given vague town/null leans on virtually every active player, one read sticks out to me as more scummy than others. Damdred's read on FF feels fabricated. FF "gives some opinions" but FF is "weak on a few points" yet Damdred would still not lynch him today. He never specifies what points he's weak on, doesn't try to follow up with FF and clarify those "weak points." Talk about an unearned town read.

So I have no idea why FF isn't scum reading Damdred considering his self imposed criteria regarding Damerion.



In the last game FF slipped by carelessly saying that he would just sheep HF without noticing that HF was pushing somebody he was town reading. He went from calling Ruxxar scum for trying too hard to calling him town because he doesn't give a shit in an hour, and it was around the time people's opinion of Ruxxar seemed to be shifting.

Important to note that DF says that he doesn't like Damdred giving a free town read on FF and FF doesn't even mention Damdred in his posts. Quite peculiar interaction there indeed.

I would lynch damdred

On October 17 2017 00:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ya ok damdred isn't scum I'll just vote damerion again last vame he was 3/3 on scum by day 2 and today nothing afaict

On October 17 2017 07:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 07:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why don't you think damdred is mafia anymore? And do you have other reasons for damerion being mafia other than that he is wrong?

He voted mafia and I think that should give him a free pass.

Damerion isn't a force to be reckoned with this game compared to his relentless pushing last game. Maybe it's because I wason the receiving end of it last game but this game he feels soft.

On October 17 2017 12:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Aight I could sheep to damdred then if you feel that strongly about it

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 06:31 GMT
#936
thats all I have to say about that
No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
October 17 2017 06:31 GMT
#937
On October 17 2017 13:07 Damdred wrote:
If you mean the general case of I am sort of lazy this game. Yes, but that doesnt make me scum. It makes me lazy or doing things for a reason.

I havent publizied a read list today, and i really do t have a real want of doing it. Lot of people fit this mold actually, doesnt make anyone scum. Just need to figure where people stand on others.

As for the charge i am not figuring the game out, i figured it out enough to vote scum out. So score one for me bitches. (most loving manner possible)

I dont really have much else to say on this case, just feels like grasping atm.


I'd really like to hear who you want to lynch today damdred.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 17 2017 08:08 GMT
#938
Day 2 Votecount

Fecalfeast (5): Grackaroni, Holyflare, ruXxar, happykrogan, Oatsmaster
Oatsmaster (2): MrLonelyClock, xenonn40
Damerion (1): Holyflare, Fecalfeast
Damdred (0): Oatsmaster, Fecalfeast, happykrogan
Grackaroni (0): ruXxar
Holyflare (0): ruXxar

Not Voting (4): Damerion, Onegu, Damdred, coolTLname

As of now, Fecalfeast is getting lynched!



Day 2 ends Tuesday, Oct 17 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is mandatory. Only votes made in the voting thread are valid.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 17 2017 08:38 GMT
#939
On October 17 2017 03:57 xenonn40 wrote:
I am parking my vote on Oats. I want to even up the vote a bit (see my last post) and see how this plays out.


What does this mean by the way? Why do you want to even up votes?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 17 2017 13:47 GMT
#940
So since I'm probably not going to make people see that I'm town how about we do a little thought experiment. In they hypothetical world where I flip town today, who would you all want to lynch afterward?
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