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On October 19 2017 06:30 Damdred wrote: Explain what you dont like rux I don't like the fact that you don't claim what role you are. This gives you a cop out in the way that: 1) We can't argue if the role you claim is even likely to exist in the game. 2) You don't allow yourself to be counterclaimed by someone who actually has the role you claim to be. | ||
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On October 19 2017 06:35 Oatsmaster wrote: I mean, there are a minimum of 2 blue roles so unless you want to counterclaim him, he's definitely blue. And there might even be 3, who knows?!?!? That's the point. Right now without claiming his role, it looks like he is trying to bait out a counterclaim of a real blue. Here's 2 scenarios: 1) Let's say damdred is mafia and claims "blue". Now lets say a medic counter claims and says thats not right "I'm medic". Damdred now says, "oh but I'm vig". Damdred mafia runs away no problem. 2) Let's say damdred is mafia and claims "medic" Now let's say a medic counter claims and says thats not right "Im medic". Damdred says "no you're right". Fighting ensues and we catch 1 mafia. I want scenario 2 to happen. Without damdred claiming a role, only scenario 1 can happen. If he was really a blue as he claims, he should want us to gain his trust by revealing what role he claims to be. | ||
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On October 19 2017 06:52 Holyflare wrote: Ruxxar hammered mafia, town read by a lot, not dead. Far too agreeable. This makes me mafia how? | ||
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On October 19 2017 10:45 Damdred wrote: Hard claiming medic Thanks. | ||
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On October 19 2017 11:45 Oatsmaster wrote: I didn't really mean to post that only lol. Why aren't you lynching damerion rux? What puts grack above him I find the way grack reads this game to be ingenuine. 3 examples of the top of my head: 1) he calls you mafia for a toneread which I disagree with. 2) he thought conversion was more towny than DF. 3) he called damerion more townie this game compared to last game. Which I also disagree with. Ill look for some more clues tomorrow. | ||
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I’ll have to do some more digging. | ||
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You voted for Oats two days in a row, yet I have a hard time deciphering why did so. Here's your reasoning for voting oats day 1: On October 14 2017 12:32 xenonn40 wrote: Because I think Rex is town, and Oatsmaster is the only alternative at the moment, and the first to vote for Rex. This was early day 1. You had plenty of time to change your vote before the lynch but you didn't. On October 15 2017 03:01 xenonn40 wrote: I did not think Ruxxar was Mafia, a kind of arbitrary opinion at this point, to be honest, but I did think the fact that there were three votes for him immediately seemed suspicious. I felt like only people who have real information (mafia) would have a reason to gang up on someone at this point. If this is right, and we lynched one of Oatsmaster, MrLonelyClock , or happykrogan, we could have a good idea that one of the other two, if not both were mafia, which would give us very helpful information. Since Oatsmaster was the only other person voted for at the time, he was "the only other option" to me. This was your explanation pre-lynch for why you were voting oatsmaster day 1, but no consideration for ever changing your vote. I also find it really strange that you're talking in past tense(!!) when the lynch hasn't even been through yet as if there's nothing you can do to change your vote. You follow up with this: On October 15 2017 03:34 xenonn40 wrote: I mean, we have 27 pages already, and almost no actions to base our discussion on. I like the idea of a post on your thoughts at the end, and not 10000 posts of fluff in between. Okay, but why are you still voting for oatsmaster? The day ends and you don't mention a word to anyone about your thoughts, why you made a bad call on oats or why you kept voting for oats. On October 15 2017 06:18 xenonn40 wrote: Damerion's vote at the end seems very suspicious to me. He votes for Oats over a vote for Conversion to make himself safe from the lynch. He is last minute scrambling to target someone else. Seems like a desperate attempt to save a fellow mafia. I am not sure if Godfather shows up as town when lynched, if so, perhaps Damerion is Godfather. That's it. No mention of your vote. Day 2 this is what we get: On October 16 2017 18:52 xenonn40 wrote: I was leaning towards voting Damerion, because if he is not Mafia, I think it is pretty likely that the other mafia are among Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Oatsmaster. Honestly, I could be swayed to vote for any of these 4 at at this point. And it does make sense, as some people have pointed out, that the situations where it makes sense for Damerion to be Mafia are very improbable. On October 17 2017 03:57 xenonn40 wrote: Okay, so you think damerion is mafia then? I am parking my vote on Oats. I want to even up the vote a bit (see my last post) and see how this plays out. Why???????? This guy is: 1) Not re-evaluating any reads. 2) Not giving good reasons for any of his reads. 3) Not engaging in any conversations or taking a stance on anythhing. 4) Not calling anyone scum at all. He just votes oats because ??? He definitely seems smart enough to undestand what's going on, and maybe the first day he didn't understand too much, but by now there's no excuse anymore. Here's what I want to know 1) Why did you not re-evaluate your vote day 1? You had plenty of time to understand how the game functioned before the lynch. There was a lot of discussion going on pre-lynch, and you were there, posting, but just simply ignoring it. 2) Why did you vote for oats day 2? I don't understand your explanation, it makes no sense from my point of view. When you vote someone two days in a row, it indicates to me that you think they're mafia. But not once have you given any explanation for why oats is scum or worthy of a lynch. | ||
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On October 20 2017 06:43 xenonn40 wrote: a) Life has had some unexpected turns the last few days. I have had less time than expected. b) Day one, I was quite unsure how to play, and honestly I didn't have a clue who to vote for. I wasted my vote, because I did not see anything better to vote for. c) After the day one votes, I was quite certain either Damerion was mafia or two of Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Oatsmaster where mafia. I had been convinced it was unlikely Damerion was mafia. (the Scenerios where this made sense were very unlikely.) d) This brings us to Holyflare, Fecalfeast, and Oatsmaster. When I cast my vote, Fecal had 3-4 votes, Holy none, and Oats 1. I wanted to even up the vote, so that there was some competition to force decisions to be made. As it was, Fecal won by a lot, so this did not happen. It did not matter if I changed my vote at the end, and I was somewhat happy as the majority was on one of the three. e) I am still highly suspicious of Holy and Oats, and the fact that they both voted for the same person (Damerion) day 3 makes me inclined to believe they want to push an agenda as we get down to the last few people. I am likely to vote Oats again. This is what I don't understand: You say: "I wanted to even up the vote, so that there was some competition to force decisions to be made" Then you say: "I am likely to vote Oats again" So if you're just voting oats to even up the votes, how do you know already now that you're likely to vote oats again? Oats doesn't have any votes on him. Are you expecting him to get votes? Why do you want to vote for oats right now anyway? What have you read that people have said or that he has said that makes you want to vote him. Forget about the votes for a moment and just think of what people have been saying. Can you put together an argument based on what people/oats have been posting to make him the #1 lynch in your mind? | ||
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On October 19 2017 06:50 Grackaroni wrote: Onegu/Xennon/Ruxxar/HF is my lynch group. I'll figure out which one I want in a little bit. Right now I'm playing sc2 and apparently I'm autistic because I beat some dude in a starcraft game. I'm learning so much about myself today. So grack, I’m interested in hearing why me and HF are in your lynch pool. | ||
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On October 20 2017 23:04 Holyflare wrote: just... floating on water? Yep. | ||
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This means 1 of 2 things: 1) Damerionia not mafia. 2) Damerion is mafia and his partner is not holyflare or oats. I say this because holyflare and oats would absolutely fight to protect their partner. | ||
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If damerion is mafia, were going to have an easy game on our hands as the potential scum pool will be very small. If damerion is town, then I’m afraid we’ll have a hard game on our hands. | ||
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