• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:27
CEST 18:27
KST 01:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202537Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced53BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ"
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? BW General Discussion Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11 US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 741 users

Newbie Student Mafia XXVII - Page 10

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 15 Next All
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 08:38 GMT
#939
On October 17 2017 03:57 xenonn40 wrote:
I am parking my vote on Oats. I want to even up the vote a bit (see my last post) and see how this plays out.


What does this mean by the way? Why do you want to even up votes?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 13:52 GMT
#941
Fecalfeast.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 13:53 GMT
#942
How about we do something more productive and you say why you're not mafia and who is instead?

If you're living in a world where both damdred and damerion are mafia then explain how it went down at deadline.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 15:58 GMT
#948
K die
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 16:51 GMT
#952
On October 18 2017 01:13 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I think FF will probably flip town today just the way the wagon has went the lack of real push agaibst it, unless oats+ff is the team at least.

Let me reas a few filters rux and ill post something in a few minutes.


If he's mafia who the fuck is gonna save him? What if his partner is just the afk guy?

You looking really bad for doing the same thing you did with dame tbh.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 17:50 GMT
#959
I'll tell you, I don't particularly care if ff is mafia or not. I'm going to lynch people that can't even be bothered to read the game. The basic premise of mafia, you know?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 22:39 GMT
#1016
whatever
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 22:43 GMT
#1017
How does Damerion go from voting oats to not mentioning oats again and instead bringing up grack all over again as if his previous point evaporated into thin air and his deadline vote was a sham?

Almost like trying to vote oats to save a team mate.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 22:45 GMT
#1018
On October 18 2017 06:48 Damdred wrote:
Half of the game did nothing today but afk a vote on ff, your point isnt very good about that


This is also super disingenuous damd and you know it. Half of the people in the game afk voted FF who was doing nothing to sway their vote to him being town and didn't even give a shit about reading the game

compared to you who randomly said he was town based on nothing and stated his invisible team mates weren't defending him despite your other scum read being (???????????????????????????????????) and then did absolutely nothing to move the vote off of him onto mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 23:36 GMT
#1020
On October 15 2017 06:00 Rels wrote:
Final Day 1 Votecount

Conversion (4): darthfoley, MrLonelyClock, happykrogan, Damdred, ruXxar
Damerion (4): Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Oatsmaster, Conversion
ruXxar (2): Oatsmaster, MrLonelyClock, happykrogan, Onegu, Grackaroni
Oatsmaster (2): Grackaroni, xenonn40, Damerion
Fecalfeast (1): darthfoley
Holyflare (0): ruXxar
xenonn40 (0): happykrogan, Holyflare, Damdred

Not Voting (1): coolTLname

Conversion is the lynch!


Here's the thing. I'm far far too lazy to colour in the rest but this is what I think happened. If I think that oats is town (the conversion calling him town and just by his general play looks towny) then not a single person on the mafia team decided that they would save Conversion by voting on Damerion. This gives us two possibilities.

1) Damerion is mafia.
2) Damerion is town and the mafia couldn't vote for Damerion or were afk.

In the first instance that Damerion is mafia it's very likely he's a role since Conversion was just a goon. If that's the case you want to prioritise either saving your partner by voting off wagon and starting a new one (Onegu, Grack, xenonn) or by voting on your other mafia partner and gaining credit for it (Damdred, Ruxxar spring to mind).

If we look at the vote count just before Damdred/Ruxxar/Conversion switch their votes it might tell us a bit more about things.

On October 15 2017 03:58 Skynx wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

ruXxar (2): Oatsmaster, MyLonelyLock, happykrogan, Onegu
Oatsmaster (2): Grackaroni, xenonn40
Holyflare (1): ruXxar
xenonn40 (1): happykrogan, Holyflare, Damdred
Conversion (3): darthfoley, MrLonelyclock, happykrogan
Damerion(3): Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Oatsmaster

Not Voting (2): Damerion, coolTLname

As of now, Conversion is getting lynched!



Day 1 ends Saturday, Oct 14 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is mandatory. Only votes made in the voting thread are valid.
TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate.


Damerion (3), Conversion (3), Oatsmaster (2), Ruxxar (2). Assuming Oatsmaster is town in this situation you have Damerion, Ruxxar and Oats as possible counter wagons to you. In this situation as mafia you want to minimise bussing and prioritise self preservation. Conversion makes this post:

On October 15 2017 02:24 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 02:22 Holyflare wrote:
On October 15 2017 02:08 Conversion wrote:
Damerion is pretty lackluster this game. no idea why. Grack-oats interaction wasn't as interesting as he insinuated it to be.

Damdred is doing nothing per usual even though he thinks he is lynch-invincible. I don't like him.

I'm not lynching Onegu since he came like 1 hr before lynch and shennani'd scum in the first game I played coming back

FF's posts are shit and he does nothing, but doesn't mean much since he was like that the game I lynched him. I'd lynch Xen over him, if it came to it.

ruxxar seemed good, but now he's AFK. need you to get off HF and figure out scum with me instead of parking on HF.

I'm never gonna townread HF, but he looks better than every single one of you except DF maybe

FF/Xen for lynch today. Otherwise Damerion.

Maybe spite lynch damdred for supposed lynch invincibility claim he made..


It's interesting you mention why Damerion over FF when in this post you highlight that you wouldn't lynch FF over Xenonn and that FF is playing just like he was in a game you lynched him (and was presumably town) and that Damerion looks lacklustre.

Very interesting.


it's also very interesting because I just reread MS Paint mafia and I don't want to lynch FF anymore.. I just don't like his play (he also though my play was scum from MS Paint, so maybe we're doomed to think that about each other)

I'd rather lynch Xen over Damerion bc I think Damerion can drop this bullshit play and still singlehandedly destroy scum like he did in Hurricane, but meh. idk where he is


which imo heavily implies Damerion is town and can "switch on" at any point (goes against everything I stand for but it's what it looks like :S) So, if there's a town Oats wagon and a town Damerion wagon and Damerion is the highest and you have a high profile player pushing it, who would you vote? He can either sheep damdred on a solo 1 vote wagon that would spell his death or try and survive and vote the next highest LIKELY TOWN wagon, Damerion. I know which one I'd choose.

Still with me? What are we left with? It's just about a vote like this:


On October 15 2017 05:15 Rels wrote:
Day 1 Votecount

Damerion (4): Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Oatsmaster, Conversion
Conversion (3): darthfoley, MrLonelyClock, happykrogan
Oatsmaster (2): Grackaroni, xenonn40
ruXxar (1): Oatsmaster, MrLonelyClock, happykrogan, Onegu
xenonn40 (1): happykrogan, Holyflare, Damdred
Holyflare (1): ruXxar

Not Voting (2): Damerion, coolTLname

As of now, Damerion is getting lynched!



Day 1 ends Saturday, Oct 14 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is mandatory. Only votes made in the voting thread are valid.
TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate.


Conversion is definitely getting lynched, there's a 40(!!) minute gap between this vote count and Ruxxar/Damdred switching to Conversion and "hammering him". So, let's look at their stances before this vote to see if they could have saved Conversion by voting Damerian/Oats/Ruxxar:

Ruxxar: Obviously won't vote himself, town reads Oats, semi scum reads Damerion enough that he could save his partner.

Damdred: Hard town reads Damerion for unknown reasons, doesn't scum or town read Oats, afking on Xenonn, town reads ruxxar.

The above two players Ruxxar has a good alibi, he could have easily voted Damerion but hammered Conversion instead. Damdred, alas, has no real excuse, his vote wasn't needed to hammer Conversion since Conversion was dying for WELL over 45 minute before he switched. His vote was on an afk wagon on xenonn instead of a main wagon until 10 minutes before a lynch and his xenonn read was fucking ugly on a massive lynch bait guy. He couldn't REALLY hammer Oats because there weren't enough votes and he had no excuse to jump on oats so his only way to save conversion would be to vote dame, which he can't. This doesn't make damdred mafia (a lot of what he's done this game kind of does though) but it's a good reason for him to be mafia in a world where mafia could have saved conversion.

^ I'll leave the above in here because I cba to edit it out but on reflection it's a bit hit and miss. Would damdred get called out for letting his town read die? In the end he did hammer conversion needlessly when he could have just afkd his vote.

People off wagon: Onegu/Grack/Xenonn

Onegu: Scum read conversion and damerion and could have easily sheeped me and voted the counter wagon to his mafia buddy (was he afk at deadline?). Good alibi in that case if he wasn't afk.

Grack: voted oats, defended damerion even though he said he was wary of him on day 1, hard defended him n1, could have potentially voted damerion to save conversion but seemed married to oats vote and not really bothered (was he afk at deadline too?)

Xenonn: ?????????? vote oats just because???????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 23:37 GMT
#1021
this post doesn't actually say anything btw I just wanted to write some notes and couldn't be fucked to process it so I'll leave it here and go to bed
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 23:37 GMT
#1022
I started reading damdred's filter though and he says that conversion vs someone was town vs town and that he didn't look bad but then ended up voting for him

what gives?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 23:42 GMT
#1023
On October 15 2017 02:08 Damdred wrote:
Converdion v DF feels like town v town to me.


On October 15 2017 02:08 Damdred wrote:
Converdion v DF feels like town v town to me.


On October 15 2017 02:23 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 02:18 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 15 2017 02:16 Damdred wrote:
Im going backslide a bit, if there is a scum between conversion and df its df.

Hot take

Seconded.

But I figured you meant to say Lonelylock/Conversion was town v town, which I would absolutely agree with.


I agree with both assessments doctor Gracky we should begin removal of the contaimenent immediately.


No posts about conversion since then??????

Votes Xen, no posts from conversion or him referencing conversion, votes conversion?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 23:45 GMT
#1024
actually fuck it, that post says more than nothing because some of it's wrong and I cba to figure it out but we should have just lynched damerion today to make it clear what the fuck happened
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 17 2017 23:46 GMT
#1025
a vig would have been great
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 18 2017 06:44 GMT
#1037
So grack how are you gonna defend Damerion's oat read next?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 18 2017 06:54 GMT
#1042
I did read the end of the day? At the time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 18 2017 06:55 GMT
#1043
Based it off memory. If I cba to even finish the post I definitely cba to go back and check. That's all your jobs.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 18 2017 06:55 GMT
#1044
And if you were both there that just makes it more likely damd is probably mafia with Damerion.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
October 18 2017 06:56 GMT
#1045
We need info on Damerion to solve game tbh
Prev 1 8 9 10 11 12 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV European League
16:00
Playoffs Day 3
ByuN vs ShoWTimELIVE!
MaxPax vs TBD
WardiTV692
IndyStarCraft 99
LiquipediaDiscussion
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
14:00
Playoff - Day 2/2 - Final
Mihu vs FengziLIVE!
Dewalt vs BonythLIVE!
ZZZero.O366
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .285
SpeCial 194
mcanning 124
IndyStarCraft 82
BRAT_OK 64
ProTech53
MindelVK 42
ForJumy 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5418
Horang2 869
Stork 848
Mini 663
Hyuk 466
ZZZero.O 355
firebathero 265
Mong 259
Larva 139
Leta 95
[ Show more ]
Zeus 61
Terrorterran 18
Sharp 12
ggaemo 0
Dota 2
Gorgc5939
qojqva3934
420jenkins1605
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Reynor90
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv8705
fl0m4257
ScreaM1136
sgares262
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor711
Liquid`Hasu508
Other Games
mouzStarbuck209
oskar152
ArmadaUGS133
JuggernautJason14
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV37
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH175
• Gemini_19 69
• davetesta47
• iHatsuTV 12
• Reevou 6
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix11
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV816
League of Legends
• Jankos1586
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
18h 33m
OSC
1d 7h
Stormgate Nexus
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.