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On October 02 2017 03:16 Koshi wrote: HF is so very probably town. Looks bad for rayn.
Question is. Why would mafia rayn put himself in such a shitty situation where both Koshi and HF are town and he is left with Breshke.
On October 02 2017 03:18 Koshi wrote: I think it is best Koshi/Vivax/HF just vote together sheeping the person who cares the most. Ignore rayn. Didn't like him from the get go this game. Maybe mafia. Maybe not. Shouldn't be town leader for sure. Literally, if you all three are town, Breshke has to be mafia 100%, literally. Fucking literally.
Mark my words.
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Good shot
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Exactly one of hf / vivax is mafia and then probably one of onegu / boxerfred.
Everyone else is town.
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I know one reason. 
I mean aside from our vigilante i am the one player who wanted to kill mafia and in Holyflare's mind that makes me mafia. Reasonable? You decide.
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I wil ldecide tomorrow which one of Vivax / Holyflare is just being bad and vote accorgingly. Koshi i need your input on some things, i'll take a shower and i will tell you what then.
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On October 03 2017 05:19 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2017 05:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:I know one reason.  I mean aside from our vigilante i am the one player who wanted to kill mafia and in Holyflare's mind that makes me mafia. Reasonable? You decide. His argument is that you weren't trying to kill mafia and were instead trying to kill Vivax for not scum reading mafia. I am pretty sure i was trying to kill mafia on N1. And my read on Vivax was not based on him not scumreading mafia, it's a blantant misrepresentation from HF. Even if you are braindead and can't see what i said about Vivax' Breshke read (which was btw more based on the retarded townread on Koshi than that Breshke read itself) that's not "all rayn's case", it's like 1/6 of my case. I mean you have to be braindead if you think all my case on Vivax is based on him not scumreading Breshke. So maybe Holyflare is mafia because i don't think he is braindead. Also he has now twice called me mafia for doing a pro-town thing. Here's a tip, people who do pro-town things are usually town and not mafia.
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Like it is very simple, i didn't want to lynch an AFK dude D1 because: 1) we have a vigilante who can deal with inactives (well one, but still) 2) i had an actual scumread who had posted actual something
very easy. Vivax on the other hand wanted to lynch a lurker, all lurkers mostly, except for Breshke. And then called Koshi town for that horrible Breshke read that also went against his own narrative on lurkers. Like:
Vivax: let's lynch lurkers, all people who said "afk" are mafia (note that Koshi is here) Koshi makes a super terrible read which is a town read on afk person who also was super excited to play the game before the game started. Vivax: Well Koshi is super fucking town for that read.
yeahhhhhhh... good stuff!
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I don't care what you say Holyflare, you have misrepresented me so much this game yo uare probably mafia and i don't give any fucks about what you say and i wont talk to you because i am not getting into arguments where you try to push "banana is apple" through the wall. So there is that.
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It's super funny people call me mafia / think i can be mafia when i gave you mafia on a platter. You're just all bad. Good night.
I made up my mind.
town Koshi Damsomething fefe
bad Vivax Grackaroni
vigi Chezinu
mafia Holyflare Onegu / bf, maybe bf then because HF wants to lynch Onegu.
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On October 03 2017 07:11 Holyflare wrote: i'll happily die to call you bad rayn Oh i thought i was mafia and not bad. ##vote Holyflare
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I do. I have towreads i have explained on everyone else other than the three bottom people. damerion is a person who Breshke ACTUALLY spewed as town, Vivax and Grackaroni are not. Vivax seems to be able to see the obvious though so he is maybe town after all then. Grackaroni i have thought is town from the beginning and i still do. So i am basically left with you, Onegu and Boxerfred.
And you have: - called me mafia for doing a pro-town thing, where your thought process in the first place makes no sense at all (lol) - called me mafia by completely misrepresenting my case on Vivax into applying it ONLY to the Breshke connection which is completely false, and you should know that since on D1 you even AGREED with one of my points on Vivax - called me mafia for wanting to kill mafia (lol)
I don't think you do those things as town since they don't make logically any fucking sense.
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On October 03 2017 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's super funny people call me mafia / think i can be mafia when i gave you mafia on a platter. You're just all bad. Good night.
I made up my mind.
town Koshi Damsomething fefe
bad Vivax Grackaroni
vigi Chezinu
mafia Holyflare Onegu / bf, maybe bf then because HF wants to lynch Onegu.
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idk let me read Chezinu real quick.
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On October 02 2017 07:20 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2017 07:02 Koshi wrote: Well. My reads aren't that good yet apparently. Pretty awesome blue snipe by mafia. Impressive. Oats made himself obv town. I was expecting him to die tonight. Oats himself was surprised how everyone thought he was town. This doesn't look like mafia post.
On October 02 2017 07:45 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2017 15:20 Chezinu wrote:On September 30 2017 09:30 Vivax wrote: My head atm. Town:
Damerion Oats FF tent. HF tentatively Koshi
Meh dunno:
BF, Onegu, Breshke, Grack
scummish: Chez, rayn, Rels
Chez for saying wow in this entire game without even attempting to have fun one way or the other. Rayn for buying into Oats point about my post and posting about his schedule for no reason. But it's my weakest read of the bunch and there's a bunch of omgus coming along with it, not going to lie. Rels for talking about plan, asking for damerions games, saying that Koshi's entry was in line with town meta. Basically a bunch of semi-helpful but unproductive stuff.
Koshi feels town. Reads on seemingly null people like Breshke, and his read on HF feel right for town Koshi to make. That's one reason, the other is the Koshiness of his posts (you wouldn't understand). Wow Wow.. Like the dead mafia guy said wow! Lolol This doesn't look like mafia post.
Idk, Chezinu doesn't feel like mafia. He sheeped me on D1 despite wanting to lynch Damerion. If him "being lazy" is a reason for him being mafia (which is all i gather as possible reasons), i don't see why he wouldn't just be lazy enough to vote for his actual scumread instead of sheeping me on Vivax.
I don't think he is mafia. IF you're gonna lynch him it's gonna happen without me. I am voting for Holyflare, maybe boxerfred but Holyflare. Noone else other than those two.
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On September 29 2017 08:01 Grackaroni wrote: Poopfeast good friend.
Would you be interested in forming an alliance? I have very big plans with the lord of the brown, but we are in short supply of fecal matter. Are you fucking serious and telling me this is two mafia here?!?!?! Seriously, these two are never mafia together ffs.
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On October 01 2017 03:20 Grackaroni wrote: For the record I'm not entirely sold on Vivax being mafia. I'm spending a lot of time explaining the reasons why I think he could be because that's the direction this conversation has taken. I don't think this is a mafia post.
On October 02 2017 09:33 Grackaroni wrote: ##Vote: Vivax
On October 02 2017 17:06 Grackaroni wrote: Ok nvm I was wrong Vivax is probably town.
I'll figure out what's going on tomorrow.
I think you're right that there's a good chance I would have scum read you if you had doubled down on your read on me. The issue is that I didn't like your read in the first place and then your play didn't match what I'm used to seeing from you. If you had doubled down and kept questioning/pushing me then I might still scum read you but I would also still consider whether you were just town and wrong if I saw some townie fire. By first making that push against me and then backing off to push Rayn/Chezinu it was like there was already one strike against you and then you added another one.
Regardless, in your last 2 posts I think you're approaching the game much more sanely. Even your point about me putting you in a place where you couldn't possibly be town read being a possible scum strategy is fair.
On October 03 2017 05:19 Grackaroni wrote: Also I don't think Oats makes sense as a Vivax kill. I don't think this is a series of mafia posts.
On October 04 2017 04:04 Grackaroni wrote: I could see a Koshi with one of FF/Chez world or a Rayn/BF world. Every other partner with Rayn doesn't feel right to me.
Also good claim by Onegu. Watcher is worthless right now and that narrows things down. This is super bad though, there is literally no reason i call a shot on Breshke when there is boxerfred and Onegu too on N1 (hint: they all can't be mafia so if i was mafia i would either grouped all three together and "let vigi choose" or simply just pick a town one). I am not sure if Grackaroni cannot just comprehend this thing, but i know for sure Holyflare should.
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