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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 17:46 GMT
#1486
Also, Tumble was scumreading Rayn. That's not particularly going with the flow of the thread.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 17:46 GMT
#1487
On August 28 2017 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
Artanis have you always been up to date with the thread when you post your scum reads?

Nope.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 17:47 GMT
#1489
On August 28 2017 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
What about when you made the koshi read? Had you caught up at that point?

Nope, was at about page 30-32ish I think when I decided to filter him instead and the clock ran out on me with friends arriving?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 17:48 GMT
#1490
I had skimmed through most of the thread through my phone before though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 17:52 GMT
#1492
On August 28 2017 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
Ah okay, you're mafia then. I made my koshi case page 22 and it was discussed by a few people quite a bit in those pages after. No way you didn't see it and then magic up a read like you say you did.

Apparently I did not notice it though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 17:53 GMT
#1494
On August 28 2017 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
Ah okay, you're mafia then. I made my koshi case page 22 and it was discussed by a few people quite a bit in those pages after. No way you didn't see it and then magic up a read like you say you did.

Hm, I think I started catching up from a thread page later than what I actually missed somehow. That's pretty impressive.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 17:55 GMT
#1497
On August 28 2017 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Last will:
Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too.
Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum.
ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go.
LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh.
Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia.

TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything.

Town:
Rayn
LS
ruXxar

Townish:
Skynx
LS
Vivax
HF

Null:
TW
Oats

Null-scummish
Geript

Scum
Damdred
Koshi


This is also a bs last will now that I look at it because if you think the Koshi case is the strongest and he's the most mafia but then you just write a shit line about "wait and see" on me despite copying my exact reads and following my lynch.

I don't believe you think those thoughts simultaneously.

Whoever it was that said about your damdred read is also spot on.

See previous post. Also you being right doesn't make you town even if I had read or remembered what you said.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 17:56 GMT
#1498
On August 28 2017 02:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 28 2017 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2017 01:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 28 2017 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i mean is, i don't care if you can make 1 post or 100 posts but when you make 50 and none of them are trying to get your scumread lynched you can't say "it's because i didn't have time" as it clearly is not where you used your time when you had time.

I also wasn't and still am not sure on my Geript scumread.

See here is the kicker.

You knew, that i heavily think geript is mafia. You promised to sheep me on what i want to do. If you have read any of my posts you knew that i don't actually think Koshi is mafia. There are many problems:
1) what i just said, you hadn't read any of those people
2) when you got out of Skynx being mafia, you chose to filter Koshi, decide he is mafia, and vote + afk (i dont care about the reasons but that's what you did).

You are still not sure if geript is mafia so you jsut randomly took one of those people, filtered him, and called him mafia. I am fucking terrible at explaining this but that's not what townies do, i would be okay if you just sheeped me on geript or even read geript instead of Koshi (as he was your top scumread at the time).

Basically you are ranking people above or below others while having absolutely no idea what they have posted, when you sheep, you dont sheep the people you said you would, and i think that makes you mafia.

I did not know that. I knew Koshi talked a lot about Geript being scum for a while, but I did not remember you going after Geript much at that moment in time. I filtered Koshi because he seemed the most scummy to me during my catchup and HF was talking a lot about him.

I could not sheep you because you were voting Skynx whom I did not believe was mafia at that time, and that was the focus I was getting from you. I did not know who else you would vote.


Bahahahaha

I don't even understand myself anymore if that helps. Maybe I rolled mafia and don't remember that either.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 17:58 GMT
#1501
On August 28 2017 02:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 02:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 28 2017 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
Ah okay, you're mafia then. I made my koshi case page 22 and it was discussed by a few people quite a bit in those pages after. No way you didn't see it and then magic up a read like you say you did.

Hm, I think I started catching up from a thread page later than what I actually missed somehow. That's pretty impressive.


Oh, that's convenient then because I post it again on page 26!

http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=26#506

Nice try

I think I started catching up from somewhere around page 30 though and barely got any further because I kept getting involved into discussions. I had skimmed through those pages.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 17:59 GMT
#1503
On August 28 2017 02:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 02:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 28 2017 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Last will:
Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too.
Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum.
ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go.
LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh.
Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia.

TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything.

Town:
Rayn
LS
ruXxar

Townish:
Skynx
LS
Vivax
HF

Null:
TW
Oats

Null-scummish
Geript

Scum
Damdred
Koshi


This is also a bs last will now that I look at it because if you think the Koshi case is the strongest and he's the most mafia but then you just write a shit line about "wait and see" on me despite copying my exact reads and following my lynch.

I don't believe you think those thoughts simultaneously.

Whoever it was that said about your damdred read is also spot on.

See previous post. Also you being right doesn't make you town even if I had read or remembered what you said.


No but having the same thought as someone and pushing the same case as someone generally makes that guy look townier for having the exact same thoughts.

Apparently not to you though.

If I don't remember you saying it then it doesn't really matter does it? Also, I do hold you to a higher standard in terms of your mafia play. I still remember getting in a QT with you as vig and telling you I was actually a 2-shot vig whilst having claimed single shot :/
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 17:59 GMT
#1505
On August 28 2017 02:58 Holyflare wrote:
If you guys don't lynch artanis I will cry

You will cry even harder after the flip if you're town :/
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 18:01 GMT
#1507
On August 28 2017 03:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 02:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 28 2017 02:56 Holyflare wrote:
On August 28 2017 02:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 28 2017 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
Ah okay, you're mafia then. I made my koshi case page 22 and it was discussed by a few people quite a bit in those pages after. No way you didn't see it and then magic up a read like you say you did.

Hm, I think I started catching up from a thread page later than what I actually missed somehow. That's pretty impressive.


Oh, that's convenient then because I post it again on page 26!

http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=26#506

Nice try

I think I started catching up from somewhere around page 30 though and barely got any further because I kept getting involved into discussions. I had skimmed through those pages.


Oh that's convenient because I post it again on page 42!

http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=42#826



Yeah I remember reading that. Hadn't I already scumread Koshi by then?

Also, just because you posted a case doesn't mean I registered it properly. Perhaps it took me actually opening his filter to see the scumminess.

Anyway, folks of my fiancee are calling to chat. Laters.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 18:12 GMT
#1510
Will be around tomorrow night. I expect to get lynched but thats ok, it means my reads will be confirmed genuine after my lynch. Please stop discussing me and just lynch me and work with me. If I'm mafia you have nothing to lose. If I'm town it might help get you some good reads.

Now please just lynch me and discuss other things. I'd suggest not trying to make reads by connecting me to others but I doubt that'll dissuade anyone.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 20:37 GMT
#1547
Well that was unexpected.
Announcement
To everyone - please vote for me. It doesn't matter whether you think I'm mafia or town, there's no way I'm not flipping this game. A) I don't have the time and B) Even if I did, I dug myself a hole way too deep to crawl out of. It's normal that I get lynched for what I said. It should happen.

Going forward
Don't discuss me, I'm geting lynched and there is no point. Work with me to find the rest of the mafia. I don't have much time (in fact no time on tuesday at all before deadline due to work+capoeira) but I'll try my hardest monday. Maybe I can be of some use in death where I failed in life.
##Vote Artanis[Xp]
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 20:40 GMT
#1549
On August 28 2017 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
I feel like conversing with you is just a colossal waste of time meant to lead us down stupid places.

Well, I hope you feel like shit when I flip town after offering a helping hand. I know I fucked up, just trying to get some redemption.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 20:42 GMT
#1550
Regarding Rayn: Given his play I don't see his play as mafia. I think he was very tunneled on me for shitty reasons for a while, but that's what he does as town. He tunnels. I'm quite sure he's town this game regardless of the fakeclaim.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 27 2017 20:45 GMT
#1551
On August 28 2017 05:10 Skynx wrote:
No pressure on him whatsoever to claim as town. He could've even forced Vivax out for god sake...

What pressure was on him to claim as scum?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 28 2017 16:37 GMT
#1705
Not gonna have any time tomorrow due to capoeira and work. Will make a big post with reads later. Please stop arguing about whether I'm scum or not: There's plenty of reason to believe so and I don't have the time to prove otherwise, nor do I know if I even could. I'm going to be lynched this game at some point and given I have no time tomorrow most definitely then anyway, so just don't bother talking about me and lynch me.
On August 28 2017 05:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well that was unexpected.
Announcement
To everyone - please vote for me. It doesn't matter whether you think I'm mafia or town, there's no way I'm not flipping this game. A) I don't have the time and B) Even if I did, I dug myself a hole way too deep to crawl out of. It's normal that I get lynched for what I said. It should happen.

Going forward
Don't discuss me, I'm geting lynched and there is no point. Work with me to find the rest of the mafia. I don't have much time (in fact no time on tuesday at all before deadline due to work+capoeira) but I'll try my hardest monday. Maybe I can be of some use in death where I failed in life.
##Vote Artanis[Xp]


I think HF is probably right and that scum are in Geript/ruXxar/Oats/maybe Skynx. I don't think Skynx and ruXxar can be scum together as it'd be quite suicidal for both of them go to after Rayn off the bat.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 28 2017 16:39 GMT
#1707
Also don't think I'll play another forum mafia game again unless I don't have a job/have a long vacation. I suck serious ass when I don't have time :/ Would be fun to play voice mafia again sometime though!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 28 2017 16:39 GMT
#1708
On August 25 2017 17:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
in b4 the scumteam is oats/ruxXar/geript

Gonna laugh so hard if this was right.
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