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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 09:58 GMT
#914
Hey artanis are you ever gonna explain why you said skynx motivation to call koshi mafia was based not on the reasons skynx was calling koshi mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:00 GMT
#916
On August 26 2017 18:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 18:56 Holyflare wrote:
His longest post in the game is literally explaining why someone claiming cop is town

Show nested quote +
On August 24 2017 07:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Fuck it /in
Just don't expect the same activity from me from before I got a full time job x_x I'm not workposting lol

zzz


So? Just because you can't play that much doesn't mean you pick the most obvious thing to waste your time on to talk about.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:00 GMT
#918
Did anyone scum read rayn for claiming cop? Did anyone not believe it? No. It's a cop out for doing activity.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:01 GMT
#920
On August 26 2017 19:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 18:58 Holyflare wrote:
Hey artanis are you ever gonna explain why you said skynx motivation to call koshi mafia was based not on the reasons skynx was calling koshi mafia?

It is what made sense to me.
Clue 1: Skynx calls Koshi mafia for X
Clue 2: Skynx was proven wrong on this.
Clue 3: Skynx posting makes it clear he still has a suspicion
Obvious conclusion: This was not the reason he was scumreading Koshi.
It's not rocket science.


He's literally said he didn't have suspicion anymore???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:03 GMT
#925
On August 26 2017 19:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like I said yesterday, I actually have some time now. Are you going to pester me all the time with questions that don't lead anywhere and prevent me from reading the thread?


I'm sorry how do they not lead anywhere? You're a giant question mark and resolving that would be nice. You're not obligated to respond until you've caught up you know.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:07 GMT
#928
It's kind of ridiculous you expect us to think that someone that has an accusation that they read up on and realise is shit and he does it as town would also then keep scum reading said person.

It is especially ridiculous when he rescinded that accusation within one post and has no underlying scum read to begin with.

It's also hilarious when be blatantly town reads koshi later by virtue of wanting to sheep him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:09 GMT
#930
Skynx let's just clear something up. Did you still scum read koshi after you found out he did his opener as town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:10 GMT
#932
I think skynx can end this discussion rather swiftly.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:10 GMT
#933
Like I said.. A game long suspicion is completely different to one post worth.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:18 GMT
#940
On August 26 2017 19:15 Skynx wrote:
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On August 26 2017 19:09 Holyflare wrote:
Skynx let's just clear something up. Did you still scum read koshi after you found out he did his opener as town?

No, my meta was wrong and it didn't make koshi scum.

That means null on Koshi. Implication was that if he ever turned out scum, those three would get some towncred in my eyes.


Boom. Artanis is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:24 GMT
#942
On August 26 2017 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On August 26 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:15 Skynx wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:09 Holyflare wrote:
Skynx let's just clear something up. Did you still scum read koshi after you found out he did his opener as town?

No, my meta was wrong and it didn't make koshi scum.

That means null on Koshi. Implication was that if he ever turned out scum, those three would get some towncred in my eyes.


Boom. Artanis is mafia.

How is that relevant to my alignment? All that matters is whether I believed what I said.


Because to the majority of the people in this game it's apparent that skynx didn't scum read koshi anymore but still had that weird thought process. To the person that doesn't know alignments we assume that makes him mafia.

To the mafia (you) you know he's town and make up a completely bull shit narrative town thought process that he didn't even have.

You're mafiaaaaa. Ggggggg.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:28 GMT
#944
More sense? Dude just confirmed he didn't at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:28 GMT
#945
Probably brings skynx back into question actually. Back into the artanis/skynx alignment competition
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:29 GMT
#948
Artanis/ruxxar maybe. Always a possibility I'm wrong on koshi I guess. Perpetual afk is so his mafia meta though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:31 GMT
#952
On August 26 2017 19:30 Vivax wrote:
HF I don't understand what you're trying to do with skynx rehashing all that stuff over and over again.

His meta was wrong, he didn't care to do his due diligence. Make your conclusion.

I think other parts of his filter are more interesting, this for example.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 06:01 Skynx wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx: LS/TW/Vivax cant be mafia if Koshi is mafia
rayn: why?
[conversation about why]
Koshi: You understand that what LS and TW did was put pressure on you by +1ing Vivax. Safe play as mafia.
Skynx: That's what im trying to say

whaaaaat?

That's not at all what i said. TW and LS are not +1's of Vivax. They are replying to me continuing on the same accusation of Koshi posting further mafia openers. It's their own conclusion yet same pattern as Vivax which is in my opinion town sided as they can just ignore if on their mafia teammate at that point.

It is annoying when you make me focus on just one bit of the game.


This post might as well not exist since it doesn't lead anywhere.

He's saying if Koshi is mafia, then what us three did was townie. If Koshi is town, then whatever.

In later posts he talks about how LS doesn't deserve a strong TR and nobody should be townreading TW in reply to geript.

So he isn't concluding anything from his own reasoning he gave to explain how he's supposed to draw a read from what us three did.

Ergo, he probably just served rayn some drivel to shut him up.


Are you playing intentionally dumb? This is nothing to do with skynx.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:32 GMT
#954
Rest of your post was fine though. Good even.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:35 GMT
#956
On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".

But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around.

ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing.

Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out....

It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought.


Kind of bull shit really. There's 4 minutes between him finding a mafia post and the town one. Basically the time it takes to meta dive and post.

Then 10 minutes after that he makes the conclusion after not thinking koshi is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:37 GMT
#957
On August 26 2017 19:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 19:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 19:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".

But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around.

ruXxar making more sense than most people in the thread. It's amazing.

Not really no. Because Skynx didnt suspect Koshi beingmafia anymore. I think this got JUST sorted out....

It doesn't matter. There were 10 minutes in between his post and he was thinking about Koshi being scum for a while now, and thus probably theorizing from that point still. It makes sense for that to be his first thought.

Not really, no.

I can really easily see me doing that. If I can and I'm town, and a few others can like ruxxar and Koshi (and we can't all be scum, unless you think its me/ruxx/koshi and ALL scum focussed on defending town lynchbait here), then clearly it's dumb to keep focussing on this.


Perhaps you should actually read ruxxar's post when you use him to defend yourself.

On August 26 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 00:10 Holyflare wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".

But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around.


You drunk? He made that conclusion AFTER he concluded koshi wasn't mafia.


It's irrelevant nitpicking. NAI imo.



He doesn't even realise the order of events happening and is drunk.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:39 GMT
#961
I'm going to leave artanis alone to do other stuff. Just know the sword of damocles rests firmly above your head.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 26 2017 10:40 GMT
#963
I also like vivax's rest of his post. It's a good catch.
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