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On August 28 2017 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i mean is, i don't care if you can make 1 post or 100 posts but when you make 50 and none of them are trying to get your scumread lynched you can't say "it's because i didn't have time" as it clearly is not where you used your time when you had time.
I also wasn't and still am not sure on my Geript scumread.
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And there weren't many opportunities to actually engage him since he was feeling shitty and was afk. On which topic, hope you feel better soon man :/
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On August 28 2017 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why did you even need the feel to defend yourself when nobody was even close to voting for you?
There is absolutely no reason to, especially since there were three people up for lynch at that point, all of them you hadn't apparently read properly.
I don't believe you feel the need to defend yourself at this point as town instead of finding who is mafia amongst them three. And you sure had time, i don't like where you used your time when you had it.
I know you don't, that much is obvious. However if you check any of my old games I tend to get upset at people scumreading me. Just look at Noir where I flipped my shit and even started martyring before anyone even voted me. 'tis something I do regardless of how 'logical' it is.
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Also plenty of people seemed to be posturing to vote for me or considered me in their scumteams. That no one had voted me yet didn't mean anything.
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On August 28 2017 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 28 2017 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i mean is, i don't care if you can make 1 post or 100 posts but when you make 50 and none of them are trying to get your scumread lynched you can't say "it's because i didn't have time" as it clearly is not where you used your time when you had time. I also wasn't and still am not sure on my Geript scumread. See here is the kicker. You knew, that i heavily think geript is mafia. You promised to sheep me on what i want to do. If you have read any of my posts you knew that i don't actually think Koshi is mafia. There are many problems: 1) what i just said, you hadn't read any of those people 2) when you got out of Skynx being mafia, you chose to filter Koshi, decide he is mafia, and vote + afk (i dont care about the reasons but that's what you did). You are still not sure if geript is mafia so you jsut randomly took one of those people, filtered him, and called him mafia. I am fucking terrible at explaining this but that's not what townies do, i would be okay if you just sheeped me on geript or even read geript instead of Koshi (as he was your top scumread at the time). Basically you are ranking people above or below others while having absolutely no idea what they have posted, when you sheep, you dont sheep the people you said you would, and i think that makes you mafia.
I did not know that. I knew Koshi talked a lot about Geript being scum for a while, but I did not remember you going after Geript much at that moment in time. I filtered Koshi because he seemed the most scummy to me during my catchup and HF was talking a lot about him.
I could not sheep you because you were voting Skynx whom I did not believe was mafia at that time, and that was the focus I was getting from you. I did not know who else you would vote.
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On August 28 2017 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I did not know that. I knew Koshi talked a lot about Geript being scum for a while, but I did not remember you going after Geript much at that moment in time. I filtered Koshi because he seemed the most scummy to me during my catchup and HF was talking a lot about him. I will call this a lie. Show nested quote +I could not sheep you because you were voting Skynx whom I did not believe was mafia at that time, and that was the focus I was getting from you. I did not know who else you would vote. I will call this a lie too and i have already explained it. And well, at that time you were WITH 100% CERTAINTY IN THE THREAD. There is absolutely no way after my post where i say "i believe this game is 8v4" you do not connect the dots that i think Skynx is not in fact mafia. No way.
You can call those lies all you want, they're true, at the very least in how I remember it. I did not even register your 8v4 comment as anything other than 'someone is mafia siding' and just disregarded it.
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On August 28 2017 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar good kill no geript is scum. look at his ruxxar read. Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx, Artanis, geript.
Final answer. Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. Like i really don't believe you saw the last post but not the one's above. They are ~10mins apart and you were in the thread at the time. The post are NEXT TO EACH OTHER in the thread and you are telling me you saw that i claimed a parity cop but you didn't know i scumread geript....
That I saw you say it at some point doesn't mean I registered and remembered it later man. So many people have indicated suspicions on so many people, I don't remember all of it.
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On August 28 2017 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well that doesn't change my opinion on you.
Eh, all I can do is tell you the truth. If you want to actually give me a chance, don't keep focussing on me and I may actually be able to focus on the rest of the thread. I know it sucks to say that and that I should just do it myself, but like I said I can't help myself. I acknowledge the flaw.
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On August 28 2017 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And there weren't many opportunities to actually engage him since he was feeling shitty and was afk. On which topic, hope you feel better soon man :/ I think this might be TMI since i didn't know geript was feeling shitty and stuff before he 100% afk'd, which is not what we are talking about here.
Dude..
On August 27 2017 01:14 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript can form a read on Tumblewood for one post, geript can't form any read on Ruxxar. I don't wanna explain this again, go read what he says in his post where he implies he can meta ruxxar and when ruxxar acts completely different from geript's meta on him, he just doesn't even care to do anything with it.
Furthermore geript loves proving me wrong when he thinks i am lynching stupid. In this game he apparently thought i am lynching stupid (Skynx) since he doesn't care to comment on it in any way, or scumread me (what other conclusion there is?). But he doesn't care at all pointing me out onto right track, he doesn't care to comment on this in any single way.
Basically geript doesn't think i am mafia, doesn't agree with my case, and doesn't do anything with it. Makes sense if he is mafia. I'm feeling a little better today, but still not great so I'm going to answer this. I am depressed. I've only had job offers from shit ends places. I haven't had a job for 4 months now and had to sell of a major part of my EDh deck. Shipping the mtg cards cost the last cash I had and I'm literally broke. Like I. Crying and don't want to get out of bed right now just writing this. You are taking things for being mafia which have no relation to the game. I'm going to grab a bite and I'll be back.
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On August 28 2017 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 28 2017 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2017 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And there weren't many opportunities to actually engage him since he was feeling shitty and was afk. On which topic, hope you feel better soon man :/ I think this might be TMI since i didn't know geript was feeling shitty and stuff before he 100% afk'd, which is not what we are talking about here. Dude.. On August 27 2017 01:14 geript wrote:On August 26 2017 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript can form a read on Tumblewood for one post, geript can't form any read on Ruxxar. I don't wanna explain this again, go read what he says in his post where he implies he can meta ruxxar and when ruxxar acts completely different from geript's meta on him, he just doesn't even care to do anything with it.
Furthermore geript loves proving me wrong when he thinks i am lynching stupid. In this game he apparently thought i am lynching stupid (Skynx) since he doesn't care to comment on it in any way, or scumread me (what other conclusion there is?). But he doesn't care at all pointing me out onto right track, he doesn't care to comment on this in any single way.
Basically geript doesn't think i am mafia, doesn't agree with my case, and doesn't do anything with it. Makes sense if he is mafia. I'm feeling a little better today, but still not great so I'm going to answer this. I am depressed. I've only had job offers from shit ends places. I haven't had a job for 4 months now and had to sell of a major part of my EDh deck. Shipping the mtg cards cost the last cash I had and I'm literally broke. Like I. Crying and don't want to get out of bed right now just writing this. You are taking things for being mafia which have no relation to the game. I'm going to grab a bite and I'll be back. Yeah and the geript post was after you already had voted for Koshi.
What I mean is that Geript was just never around to actually engage and improve my read. The second part was something I just posted right now?
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On August 28 2017 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript post: August 26 2017 19:14 MSK
Artanis Koshi vote: August 26 2017 14:48 MSK
"I didn't read geript at the time i voted for Koshi because i knew he was feeling shitty and was afk"
yeah no.
No, that wasn't the reason I didn't vote for Geript. I voted for Koshi because I read his filter. Stop twisting my words.
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On August 28 2017 01:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like if you're town you have supermassively fucked up almost everything you are now saying so this conversation can end. But i am never going to vote for anyone except for you tomorrow.
Let me spell this out for you.
1. I couldn't engage Geript because he was afk. This was why I didn't have a stronger read on him. This was during Day 1.
2. I later find out that this is because he felt shitty. This is what I post about now, and not a reason for then.
Just because you supermassively lack reading comprehension doesn't mean I supermassively fucked up.
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On August 28 2017 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The point is you never even tried. You even claimed he is your top scumread and now you claim you basically have not read anything he wrote...................................
On August 28 2017 01:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why did you even need the feel to defend yourself when nobody was even close to voting for you?
There is absolutely no reason to, especially since there were three people up for lynch at that point, all of them you hadn't apparently read properly.
I don't believe you feel the need to defend yourself at this point as town instead of finding who is mafia amongst them three. And you sure had time, i don't like where you used your time when you had it. I know you don't, that much is obvious. However if you check any of my old games I tend to get upset at people scumreading me. Just look at Noir where I flipped my shit and even started martyring before anyone even voted me. 'tis something I do regardless of how 'logical' it is.
On August 28 2017 01:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well that doesn't change my opinion on you. Eh, all I can do is tell you the truth. If you want to actually give me a chance, don't keep focussing on me and I may actually be able to focus on the rest of the thread. I know it sucks to say that and that I should just do it myself, but like I said I can't help myself. I acknowledge the flaw.
I did read his filter. I found it kinda scummy, but I needed more info to confirm it either way. I didn't get a chance to read it again on Day 1 as I didn't have the time since people showed up ahead of schedule. I felt Koshi was scummier at that point in time.
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On August 28 2017 01:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2017 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn. If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia. Er here? Where you did nothing? On August 27 2017 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn. If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia. There is no one that really wants to lynch Rux, he has one vote and you arent doing SHIT to convince anyone to move to rux. So its wasted. But i only care about finding mafia, not really convincing people lately. Looks like you did a heel of a job trying to convince people to lynch Tumblewood your super top scumread. I don't even fucking know why you think he is mafia... That's a bad narrative Oats. You called me out of "afking" and telling basically we cant lynch ruxxar 7 minutes after i had placed my vote. If i was writing a case you cannot even know if i am doing that or not, you werent giving me a chance in your mind. That's what i am talking about. What happened doesnt matter. The fact is i voted for ruxxar and you told people not to, because rayn doesnt even have a case even before you have given me a chance to write one. That's what i am talking about, about your mindset, and that's how i see it. I literally said "wasted vote, bad rayn", thats all. I clearly dont think that I dissuaded anyone from voting for ruxxar. And you clearly didnt write a case. So it was a wasted vote, evidenced by the fact that you moved onto artanis. You understand that it was a wasted vote in that situation or you think that it was a totally useful one that contributes to us finding mafia?
Does him admitting it's a useless vote or not help anything in determining his alignment Oats? I don't know where you're going with this. He's also pretty clearly town, unfortunately.
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On August 28 2017 02:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am gonna say one more thing on this, you don't need to answer, and i hope, if you are town Artanis, that you up your play. It most likely wont save you D2 but still.
I think your story doesn't add up. There are many points where what you do make absolutely no sense to me from the perspective where i am thinking what you would think in a situation based on what you have posted before. I never blame anyone for not being able to play at certain times, but I think you are well aware of the situation at times you post and given that this assumption is true (which your posts indicate) i think you are making decisions that are highly questinable, in a sense that you:
1) certainly figure out the game is at X state (who are possible lynches, and all that jazz)
2) but then, when you do stuff, you do something completely irrelevant to what's important to the game, or at least you're now trying to explain it in a way
3) i don't think you would focus on things you do if you were town, while your explanations "match up" with your actions, i dont think they are townie actions if the explanation is in fact true
I just can't believe you would be so nonchalant about the top 3 lynches (while doing other stuff) as town while clearly realizing those three are town's top lynches. Expecially when you DONT give any other scumreads, and when you DO read at least some of them mafia.
I had time yesterday in the morning. I spent it pursuing a Skynx read that I ended up backtracking on, after which I didn't have enough time to analyze an alternative properly. The Geript read was always in the back of my mind but without more content I never could develop it much further, it's just a need more data kinda deal. Koshi looked like the best lynch at the time and that's whom I voted. The actions I took do reflect me putting more emphasis on defending myself then scumhunting, but I believe that the first thing anyone needs to do is try and get themselves out of the lynch pool. That is what I attempted, for better or worse, by explaining my actions just like I'm doing now.
Like I said, if you actually want me to focus on other things, it would help if you let me. I'll try to either way, but it'd be easier if as stated you'd focus elsewhere regarding accusations towards me. You can vote for me, I don't care, but let me do my thing for at least 24h and see what happens.
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Also, I am curious why you believe as mafia I'd end up flipping my scumread on Skynx when everyone was still scumreading him to go after Geript or Koshi and then vanish until EoD. How would that be a good gameplan? There was no indication people were gonna switch off Skynx at the time.
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On August 28 2017 02:09 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 01:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 28 2017 01:47 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 28 2017 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2017 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn. If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia. Er here? Where you did nothing? On August 27 2017 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:46 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn. If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia. There is no one that really wants to lynch Rux, he has one vote and you arent doing SHIT to convince anyone to move to rux. So its wasted. But i only care about finding mafia, not really convincing people lately. Looks like you did a heel of a job trying to convince people to lynch Tumblewood your super top scumread. I don't even fucking know why you think he is mafia... That's a bad narrative Oats. You called me out of "afking" and telling basically we cant lynch ruxxar 7 minutes after i had placed my vote. If i was writing a case you cannot even know if i am doing that or not, you werent giving me a chance in your mind. That's what i am talking about. What happened doesnt matter. The fact is i voted for ruxxar and you told people not to, because rayn doesnt even have a case even before you have given me a chance to write one. That's what i am talking about, about your mindset, and that's how i see it. I literally said "wasted vote, bad rayn", thats all. I clearly dont think that I dissuaded anyone from voting for ruxxar. And you clearly didnt write a case. So it was a wasted vote, evidenced by the fact that you moved onto artanis. You understand that it was a wasted vote in that situation or you think that it was a totally useful one that contributes to us finding mafia? Does him admitting it's a useless vote or not help anything in determining his alignment Oats? I don't know where you're going with this. He's also pretty clearly town, unfortunately. Well yeah but I'm also pretty clearly town so getting rayn to understand that will help.
I'm not sure how you're clearly town and how this is helping Rayn to understand that.
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Reading through from where I left off I am also pretty sure TW is town. A little bit for this post:
On August 26 2017 03:36 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi wow i am impressed you basically managed to name my top 4 town in order
Exuding a lot of confidence. He has no problem going in against the flow of the thread, potentially making himself a focal point for little gain.
Also his filter is already longer than his last scumgame where he was lynched D4, and as long as the scumgame before that where he was lynched D3. Also a little bit due to the list post he made earlier with all his notes. From what I can tell he's never done that before and I just don't think it's something you start doing as mafia rather than as town.
Also also dinner ready!
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On August 28 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 02:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Reading through from where I left off I am also pretty sure TW is town. A little bit for this post: On August 26 2017 03:36 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi wow i am impressed you basically managed to name my top 4 town in order Exuding a lot of confidence . He has no problem going in against the flow of the thread, potentially making himself a focal point for little gain.Also his filter is already longer than his last scumgame where he was lynched D4, and as long as the scumgame before that where he was lynched D3. Also a little bit due to the list post he made earlier with all his notes. From what I can tell he's never done that before and I just don't think it's something you start doing as mafia rather than as town. Also also dinner ready! This is totally incorrect. At that time, the whole thread had the same reads as him... He hasn't done anything that went against the flow of the thread. Also totally superficial meta read that means nothing. What is this townread?!??
The whole thread had LS, Vivax, and Koshi as town? LS maybe, but Vivax is questionable and Koshi is definitely not true.
Yes, it's superficial, but it also has a tendency of being correct. Just because it's not complicated doesn't make it an invalid metric, especially for people who tend to struggle to post.
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On August 28 2017 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2017 02:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly I see what you talking about but do you think Lex could come up with a last will as scum so quickly? Vivax you know better than afking at deadline...... You should of been pushing Skynx at deadline.... Yeah writing a lst weill that says absolutely nothing is very hard to do in 2 minutes.
Took me about 15 minutes actually, which was all the time I had.
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