fuck it I cba to collect all of these koshi quotes it's far too much effort but the gist of it is:

TW read => mafia, mafia, mafia, mafia => ???????????????? not on any scum list at any point in time ever

Skynx read => good hf read, weird, good kill, don't wan't to lynch, not in mafia list at all (ALL WHILE SKYNX HASN'T POSTED ONCE)

HF read => (sees hf claim mafia in thread) come on join town circle, town, town, good analysis on skynx, not annoying enough, "Bad" (not even mafia), in scum list with no vote, insults about my ability to not find mafia, insults about how i'm bad with more quotes highlighting my badness, afk excuses, returns to insult, afk excuses

Artanis read => sees artanis post trashiest analysis seen yet, says it's good, solid analysis, artanis is mafia because he likes read on skynx, artanis doesn't feature in any scum list koshi makes ever => ???????????

koshi scum list => afker, afker, geript
koshi new scum list => town guy, bad looking ruxxar at time, geript => all of those people voting him at that time so omgus

Holyflare

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August 25 2017 22:39 GMT

#829

I've missed you oats

Holyflare

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August 25 2017 22:41 GMT

#832

read all of koshi's posts towards me to get a real taste of if he thinks I'm mafia or not

hint: it's not

if you read his posts with the view that I'm town then you'll realise the truth, what need would he have to constantly berate me with a flurry of insults of how shit my reads are and how bad a player I am if he thinks I'm mafia? The truth is he got caught out and can't handle it

Holyflare

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August 25 2017 22:55 GMT

#844

u fooking what?

i'm with skynx when the reason he's getting lynch is that I called out skynx? :D

Holyflare

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August 25 2017 23:17 GMT

#857

On August 26 2017 08:04 Vivax wrote:
The reason HF is scummy is that he's mostly just finding anything he can to push people with very little town hunting besides it.

Basically if thread sentiment switches, he could just write a bunch of lines on anyone he said "looks good" previously (cause that's the best reason you're gonna get from his TRs) and vote them anyway without repercussions.

He isn't POEing or anything or have townreads he really has to commit to.

Damdred warm fuzzy feeling is BS and if Damdred isn't posting within the next 18 hours tomorrow we might see HF write that Damdred has fucked off and he would kill him .

what are you talking about?

rayn is completely different from last game, he's pushing inconsistencies and trying to ask people questions to solve things
damdred is probably town because of his feel reads that don't quite make sense unless you're damdred but that are based on nothing
oats is completely balls to the wall guns blazing after not playing for like a million years, like aggressive oats

if you want me to have more solid town reads than those three I don't know what to tell you other than that's quite frankly impossible

I have some fringe reads like tw and now actually ruxxar after his drunk spree or whatever he calls it but I guess that fulfils your "leaving them open" bs

Holyflare

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August 25 2017 23:18 GMT

#858

are you mafia vivax?

Holyflare

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August 25 2017 23:21 GMT

#859

I don't think you have any poe in fact?

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 08:59 GMT

#892

I'm sorry since when has filter length ever been an indicator for alignment for the spam players? You say koshi is "giving reads" but he's not actually. They're superficial as fuck. Perhaps you should read every comment he posts towards me and compare it to the game he was mafia and doing the same.

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 09:00 GMT

#893

Like he returned and what did he do? "oh i thought deadline was today" and left again. No reads, doesn't even give a shit. Is that town koshi? No.

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 09:34 GMT

#894

Boring game. No idea how he hasn't got all the votes yet.

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 09:35 GMT

#895

Artanis/koshi a team.

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 09:47 GMT

#900

I'm not gonna lie I haven't particularly read anything.

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 09:50 GMT

#902

On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:

Show nested quote +

Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town?

I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.

Even though tw said geript always does it?

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 09:51 GMT

#903

We are lynching koshi 100000%

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 09:54 GMT

#906

I still don't town read skynx. No idea what the other half of the game is doing.

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 09:54 GMT

#907

Did artanis post anything since i slam dunked him?

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 09:56 GMT

#909

Ok yeh artanis is definitely mafia

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 09:56 GMT

#910

His longest post in the game is literally explaining why someone claiming cop is town

Holyflare

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August 26 2017 09:57 GMT

#911

On August 25 2017 20:55 Holyflare wrote:

Show nested quote +

On August 25 2017 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On August 25 2017 19:55 Holyflare wrote:

On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:

On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:

On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.

I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool.

Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running.

You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.

Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.

I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because?

None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open.

There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia?

Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely.

There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie?

So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled?

Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all???

Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective.

I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong.

Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong??

Because the reason he's saying he scumreads Koshi isn't the actual reason he was, just the one he formulated. I'm saying it's likely a gut read, presuming he's town.

Like this is quintessential bull shittery. "oh he said he was mafia but that's not reallllyyyy why he thought he was mafia."

.................

Keep stretching the narrative dude. A+

Slam dunk.