• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:01
CET 08:01
KST 16:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy7ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises1Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool42Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw? How to Choose the Right KYC Partner for Your Proje Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Team League Season 10 KSL Week 87
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Why Is Assignment Helper So Powerful for Students The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Soulkey's decision to leave C9 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ JaeDong's form before ASL [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group A ASL Season 21 LIVESTREAM with English Commentary [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread CaratFlair Diamond Engagement Rings – Elegant Fore European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2712 users

[M][N] Names Are Hard 2 - Page 5

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 11:34 GMT
#1016
^Other than 'not being annoying enough'
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 11:41 GMT
#1020
On August 26 2017 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait did Koshi say so?

On August 25 2017 23:21 Koshi wrote:
I decided that a geript/HF/Ruxxar team is possible.

This is the first time he mentioned HF possibly being scum. Since then, he's mentioned HF like this:
On August 25 2017 23:24 Koshi wrote:
I just keep claiming mafia to make it easy for you.

On August 25 2017 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Town for a very long time
Damdred
Vivax

Going to read them town for now
LightningStrike
Artanis[Xp]
raynpelikoneet
Skynx

Very very slight townread
Tumblewood

MIA
Oatsmaster

LoL so bad probably mafia
HF

Mafia
Geript
ruXxar

On August 25 2017 23:31 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
Read koshi filter and his posts towards tw. Realise tw was a scum read and it's disappeared off the face of the earth.

Then look at his skynx progression. Skynx is probably mafia/bad looking after i post a good case (never votes skynx) into nothing changing but somehow he won't join the skynx wagon and now skynx is not even a mafia read. No posts in between.

His artanis read is "that's a good thought" but anyone with any semblance of a town thought can see artanis' read is forced as fuck and crumbled completely but koshi bypasses that.

Koshi's list of mafia initially magically became a list of an afk guy, a guy with 1 post and geript. Trash tier list. Now he got called out for it he's had to completely change it to some new bs that isn't congruent with his thoughts at all.

His post to me when I fake claimed mafia was also talking to me like I was town and should "join the town circle" pandering to me because he knows my alignment. He purports he didn't realise but that's bs.

Every koshi thought has been completely contradicted by his actions. There are either two koshis playing on his account or he's mafia.

Show nested quote +

LoL so bad probably mafia
HF

On August 25 2017 23:38 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:34 Holyflare wrote:
Thinking more about koshi and artanis their interactions do seem a bit forced.


We lynch koshi today. Absolutely no way is his filter townie.

I wish you the best of luck. It is going to be possible.

I think your play is to convince rayn (shouldn't be hard), and then the townie out of Ruxxar and geript. Should be really easy if that by some miracle that is geript. Then the other one is a free vote as well.

I wonder if you will need the third mafia. Better not sit with 3 mafia on my wagon. Just not good for my ego end game.

On August 25 2017 23:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
I've read the thread.

Only solid read is that skynx is town.
I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did.


Oh boy mafia just throwing themselves out

psshh psshhh: You need his vote on me. Gotta make friends.

On August 26 2017 00:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
Its more interesting that Koshi seems to assume that there is some giant town push about to go down on skynx and he has to stand against us to defend him.

What? I think you need to take HF his advice and not push me. It is going to have a backwards effect.

On August 26 2017 00:34 Koshi wrote:
Town for a very long time
Damdred
Vivax

Going to read them town for now
LightningStrike
Artanis[Xp]
raynpelikoneet
Skynx

Very very slight townread
Tumblewood

MIA
Oatsmaster

Mafia
Geript
ruXxar
HF





gl hf bois. I think I am at least 2/3 right. HF is pretty certain mafia. He has been horribly shitty last couple of games (correct readwise (and compared to me)) but I think this is beyond that.

Punish the mafia. I really think I am very right. Maybe rayn is mafia as well. But I don't think he is.

So do not lynch Skynx/Artanis in future days when I am lynched. Go for geript/ruxx and hf.


I truly hope some of you quote this post a couple times in future days.[/QUOTE]
On August 26 2017 00:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 00:33 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:30 Koshi wrote:
On August 26 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
Its more interesting that Koshi seems to assume that there is some giant town push about to go down on skynx and he has to stand against us to defend him.

What? I think you need to take HF his advice and not push me. It is going to have a backwards effect.


HF told me to not push you? Where?

I am just mafia bullshitting bro. No worries.

On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. So don't trust them lol. (I repeat: HF is probably mafia this game. Whenever I say things like this it is because I work in a "what if" world)

I am without doubt the best D1 reader. No doubt.

I am telling you the lynch needs to be within geript/HF/Ruxxar.
I am telling you Skynx is town for now. Do not touch him D1. There are no longer mafia left that could be his partner.

I am super against an Artanis lynch as 4th option. But he is more likely town for his play today. However, I can see the "underwhelming" lynch be tempting.

2/3 mafia is with Ruxx/HF/Geript.

I know it is true.

Literally 0 explanation for his scumread.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 11:44 GMT
#1023
On August 26 2017 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah that's something i knew already. I was jsut thinking if it makes Koshi mafia that after calling HF "not annoying enough" every time he posts towards HF he feels super annoyed.

Here you go:
On August 25 2017 23:17 Koshi wrote:
Message to my fans.

Don't put HF too high on your lists. He is smart. Which is not how he plays town. And when he pushes me he isn't annoying enough.

He is fine for today. Not fine for D3. And he is going to get to D3 this game.

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 11:45 GMT
#1024
I can lynch either Koshi or Geript today. Will sheep you on either, but people could be coming in at any moment now.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 11:45 GMT
#1025
And I have no idea how long I'll be gone. In fact people are coming in right now so please choose
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 11:46 GMT
#1027
On August 26 2017 20:46 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 20:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can lynch either Koshi or Geript today. Will sheep you on either, but people could be coming in at any moment now.


Why do you talk as if you had your pants down

Who says I don't?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 11:48 GMT
#1028
Will vote Koshi for now. Hopefully be back before deadline, should work out fine but no guarantees. Laters!
##Unvote
##Vote Koshi
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:10 GMT
#1232
wtf is going on
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:15 GMT
#1241
On August 27 2017 02:57 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 00:54 Damdred wrote:
On August 26 2017 20:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can lynch either Koshi or Geript today. Will sheep you on either, but people could be coming in at any moment now.


I'm sure its probably been talked about.

But this post by art super bugs me, he spends previous posts driving himself to vote for koshi and spend a none with geript, ends up settling on koshi with very little paranoia about geript being there.

And as much grief as he gave koshi about res progression geript is pretty b.s. to and he never calls him out.

Really bad

i mean, its not unheard of for buses to happen and in my opinion, I wouldnt really look to whos voting the person I want to lynch as a reason to not lynch that person.


I think one of my main points I didn't harp on enough was this. (Or I just realized it but let's pretend I'm a good player and just forgot)

His geript read comes out of thin air and seems to be pandering to the two main factions in the thread. Koshi and Geript (hf and rayn respectively).

His koshi read is somewhat developed but does not stray to much from developed read that hf has put forward.

His geript read however is air, has no backing and both (if not all his reads). Seem like they are just playing towards fitting in with the thread at that moment in time.

I think he went from voting skynx, to then saying he would vote for wither koshi or geript.

Skynx was thread sentiment push by rayn, koshi is thread sentiment by hf.

It makes little sense to me for a town artanis to do this.

I made the Geript read earlier and I agreed with Rayn's point regarding it being because Geript wasn't talking about anything important. That other people share the read is completely irrelevant. It also goes in directly against what other people have been using to call me "hipster scum" so please make up your mind.

I hadn't read the HF read on Koshi yet, in fact I didn't even get through the entire thread. Just went through filters of people that looked weird. Koshi's list posts that he kept updating were weird to me which pinged me out, and I already had a suspicion on Geript, so that's where my attention went when Skynx was no longer a good lynch.

What's the point of me suddenly flipping my read on Skynx if I'm mafia without much explanation and then leaving? The much more likely explanation is that I didn't have any time to really go in depth in it because I had a D&D game which I explained beforehand.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:17 GMT
#1243
Anyway, if my lynch goes through, there's definitely scum jumping on my absence. I don't think LS is scum, but I'm definitely not so sure on Damdred anymore. I feel like he's too smart to just not look at if the scum reason for my read flip makes any sense. Maybe I'm overreading that because I know my alignment but it feels like he's not even trying to understand it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:18 GMT
#1247
Like seriously, no one but HF even voted me until 1h ago, when suddenly 4 people voted me and you think that's a town lynch?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:19 GMT
#1248
A mafia lynch* rofl
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:22 GMT
#1252
On August 27 2017 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 04:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyway, if my lynch goes through, there's definitely scum jumping on my absence. I don't think LS is scum, but I'm definitely not so sure on Damdred anymore. I feel like he's too smart to just not look at if the scum reason for my read flip makes any sense. Maybe I'm overreading that because I know my alignment but it feels like he's not even trying to understand it.

He is saying your reads go into a convenient place. I honestly agree with that. Especially when you had earlier said geript is your top scumread or "most likely to get your vote" when Skynx thing was on, when Skynx thing ended you suddenly paired up Koshi there and voted for him instead when neither of them had done anything inbetween.

Koshi had made plenty of posts since I had last fully read the thread.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:23 GMT
#1254
On August 27 2017 04:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Why were you scumreading Geript earlier because you left it unexplained?

Funnily enough Koshi made a number of decent posts on it. Mainly that his posts just weren't going anywhere. Since his recent spat though I'd say we need to see what his replacement will do.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:28 GMT
#1264
Last will:
Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too.
Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum.
ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go.
LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh.
Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia.

TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything.

Town:
Rayn
LS
ruXxar

Townish:
Skynx
LS
Vivax
HF

Null:
TW
Oats

Null-scummish
Geript

Scum
Damdred
Koshi
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:29 GMT
#1268
First mislynch as town. Hope expectations for me will be lower next time. Gl guys
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:37 GMT
#1280
:/
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:39 GMT
#1289
On August 27 2017 04:29 Skynx wrote:
It's still 5-5, art with later votes

I find it really suspect that you kept such close track to the votes yet barely contributed towards the thread.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:41 GMT
#1293
On August 27 2017 04:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 04:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Well lex is pretty much town with that last post it kinda shitty though.
On August 27 2017 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
People off wagon and on artanis look terrible

Says the person who hammered town!Koshi......

NO HE IS NOT THE POST DOESNT SAY ANYTHIGN!!!!

So you think I actually counted all the votes 20 minutes before the end of day, made all those posts including the last will which took me a bit while knowing exactly I would stay alive at the current vote and banking on no one else switching? Come on Rayn. It's a very shitty reason for me to be town, but it's probably true.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 26 2017 19:42 GMT
#1295
On August 27 2017 04:41 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 04:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 27 2017 04:29 Skynx wrote:
It's still 5-5, art with later votes

I find it really suspect that you kept such close track to the votes yet barely contributed towards the thread.

It's not rocket science, i was 4th vote then TW voted 3 mins to go.

You'd have to keep good track of which votes came from where. I was actually thinking switching to geript might save me. That would've ended up poorly.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 185
ProTech120
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 4363
HiyA 303
ToSsGirL 65
Bale 21
Noble 19
ZergMaN 17
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever853
febbydoto25
League of Legends
JimRising 583
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K807
m0e_tv472
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0432
Other Games
ceh923
Trikslyr21
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick886
BasetradeTV132
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream93
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH178
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1306
• Lourlo1257
• HappyZerGling137
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h
Afreeca Starleague
3h
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
1d 2h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 3h
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
KCM Race Survival
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Cure vs Zoun
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Platinum Heroes Events
4 days
BSL
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
ByuN vs Maru
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Light vs Calm
Royal vs Mind
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-23
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
NationLESS Cup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.