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Read his posts. He has talked in lengths on skynx and koshi. Can you tell what's his conclusion on their alignment? | ||
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Lets have a talk then. | ||
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The last game i was town in Skynx started the game in a "similar" manner (you remember his "rayn is scum but i didnt read the thread" case). That case was based on his understanding of my meta from the previous game where i was mafia. I think it's quite safe to say Skynx' early game (at least as town) and opener is heavily based on meta (and feels for it). I believe there is a high chance Skynx is trying to imitate this as mafia here. The reasoning is the following: The whole thing on Koshi was very very stupid, like there was literally no thought process behind what he said. However that doesn't really make him mafia. What caught my attention was when he was making conclusions while at the same time saying "my post ("case" on Koshi) didn't make any sense at all in the first place" since you can't even start to make conclusions when the premises are already wrong and you KNOW it (why would ANYONE, with or without Koshi being mafia NOT call out dumb stuff liek that?). The rest of it + what you brought up was already discussed. Now based on the above, i think there is also a chance Artanis realizes this Skynx' last game thingy. I think it's even likely it has been discussed in scum QT in case they are both mafia. Therefore it makes perfect sense that Artanis would soft-defend Skynx like he did. I mean like, i am not saying this is something that makes Artanis mafia. I am just saying it is entirely possible for him to be mafia with Skynx. The reasons i think Artanis is mafia are: On August 25 2017 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given 2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx 3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing And then there is also this post: On August 26 2017 00:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I actually really hate that rayn focussed solely on my skynx read and didnt mention the point hf brought up regarding him saying the same thing to skynx last game to rels. Normally rayn goes after people that townread him for reasons he finds bad. He scumreads me anyway but doesnt mention it at all. Rescinding rayn townread. Why would i focus on anything other than his super duper terrible read? I don't understand what the second sentence means? "Normally rayn goes after people that townread him for reasons he finds bad" -- which means? Is Artanis saying his townread on me was bad? Shouldn't it make him mafia, not me? OR what is he trying to say here? I have absolutely zero clue what Artanis is trying to do in this game or why he even comes up with his conclusions. | ||
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Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread: "he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened? Dno much about Skynx' mafia play ...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta. Well done. | ||
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On August 26 2017 03:00 Skynx wrote: Do you even scumread me afterall rayn? What is this bs "rayn doesnt even scumread me" when i have literally said you have the highest chance of being mafia in the game? Can you even read what i write? | ||
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On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote: I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. Does this look anything comparable to geript's read on you this game? | ||
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On August 26 2017 03:04 Koshi wrote: I can see that you are somewhat stuck on a Artanis/Skynx mafia team for a while now. But given the Ruxxar/HF tandem I really don't understand why you are looking for mafia there. It's either Koshi and friends who are mafia. Or HF/Ruxxar and somebody who is mafia. And if you think those are 2 townparties clashing. Why are you mumbling about Artanis/Skynx lol I am not sure if you are mafia or not. If i have to choose between voting you or HF/ruxxar atm my vote will 100% go on you. You can count on that until you start doing town!Koshi things. Now you're just being sad you're being called mafia. | ||
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On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote: Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue. | ||
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On August 26 2017 03:13 Skynx wrote: This is what you've said to be exact and i think it was important to make your stance clear cuz you haven't been clear about it so far. Incorrect, this is what i said to be exact: I think Skynx is mafia because his reasoning for what he said earlier doesn't add up (he was basically lying). Also what Holyflare said. I honestly didn't catch up on what HF said before he said it, i was looking for something else on him, which i got an answer to when he said he was actually doing something else his posts say. After this you tell the thread that: rayn's push on me seems like towny but there is no conclusion to it. No vote on me and his last thoughts when i was around looked like he had me as bad town but he's still pushing the agenda of mafia!skynx. Apparently here you still thought i think you're mafia so now you're again saying 2 completely different things based on how it suits your agenda. | ||
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Anyway you're whole point is based on an assumption that I'm making a play so I don't think you will get far with this. No that's not what i am saying. That's a completely different point that has nothing to do with my conclusion, maybe you just can't (or don't want to) understand it. It's fine though because i don't need to make you think you are scum. | ||
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On August 26 2017 03:18 LightningStrike wrote: Will check this later to see if this is true. No need to it's true: generic : Koshi, rsoultin last ms-paint game: rayn the big game: xatalos (also had a scumread on me he dropped mid-D1) we all were mafia. | ||
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On August 26 2017 03:15 Tumblewood wrote: yes as in i think his meta is consistent, but i don't think that quote is a complete representation of his meta. later that game -- or if that quote wasn't from mspo, sometime in mspo -- geript said "town!TW says what he thinks" a couple times and he said that exactly to start off this game. not that i think i have said what i think any more or less this game, but it is at least a consistent approach. How is the geript quote comparable to this post he called you town for: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote: nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else Is this like... a good observation? Or does this go well with "he says what he thinks"? I mean like you aren't really saying anything here (in mafia terms), right?  | ||
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