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Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 26 2017 19:41 GMT

#1294

On August 27 2017 04:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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I find it really suspect that you kept such close track to the votes yet barely contributed towards the thread.

this is actually a good point

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 27 2017 06:23 GMT

#1409

ok im caught up heres my notes:

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vivax:
877 is highly good (tr skynx on a whim)
883 is realistically arrogant. 99% town at this point.

hf:
909 seems to directly contradict what he did at lynch, but i am still missing 20 pages so what do i know
god why does he care so much about the very initial skynx thing. i made sense of that in like 3 posts and he is still asking questions 30 pages later. it is a simple matter.
yup it is page 48 and he is still pushing artanis on the skynx thing.
985 spooks me. but i think it's nai. but it spooks me
ya why tf is hf shitting on people lynching his second scumread

art:
987 is a legit read. seems genuine. not crazy ai but ...
~~1020 is a solid post. i think artanis is town. and then you're looking at an hf/geript/x team, which is reasonable.~~ upon further review 1020 looks like a solid post on first appearance but is actually pretty meh.
you gotta respect last will

rayn:
he is claimed blue, right?
1206 BOOM GOT EM. DIRECT KILL. (i feel very nice after reading that. thank you rayn)

skynx:
995 is a read i don't think i've ever seen scum make.
1161 is a little good

oats:
not much except ppbbhbbtthttttt
he could be mafia. he is definitely back in the picture. especially since the person i was sheeping on him is now attacking him (and i think over a very valid point).

geript:
oats and rux are obvious town, maybe ls too. god idk if this makes him mafia, i'll figure that out, but i know for sure it annoys me.
but the tricky thing is He's Not Playing The Game. it could be a real excuse but i don't really care

ls:
i don't know why i'm writing him off but i'm strangely comfortable with it

rux:
i have forgotten why he is town or mafia. but i remember thinking he was slightly town. will check my filter later
1408 what ?????? this isn't even scummy just confusing

conclusion:

rayn is town and i don't get why people are still treating him like he's not town.
ls could be flying under the radar but i doubt it.
rux confuses me. bottom line idk man
geript is had to read when he's Not Playing but he's not on my good side.
hf really confuses me. because he spends a dozen pages attacrt and then chews out everyone not on koshi. so by confuses me i mean is scummy.
oats is back in the mafia pool. i think his narrow focus on koshi despite koshi not being his top scurmead is scummy.
vivax is conftown in my mind
skynx is town.
art looks like a real wounded townie, but still a possibility. his filter is dull but there are some decent posts, especially the last will. i like last wills.
i completely forgot about damdred. but i think he was town

conclusion to the conclusion:

conftown:
vivax
rayn

town:
ls
skynx
damdred

dunno man:
rux
art

scumlean:
geript
hf
oats

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 27 2017 06:26 GMT

#1410

my scum pool is everyone on koshi, and that doesn't sound quite right. we may have to dig deeper into my town list than previously expected

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 27 2017 20:04 GMT

#1531

q&a
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On August 27 2017 15:56 Oatsmaster wrote:

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maybe you are the mafia?!??!?

ah, good point

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On August 27 2017 17:30 Holyflare wrote:
Artanis[Xp] (5) - Damdred, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, Lightningstrike, Skynx

So TW it's scummy that I question and hound the guy you voted for when you also said

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That you liked post 404 which is

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On August 25 2017 20:55 Holyflare wrote:

On August 25 2017 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On August 25 2017 19:55 Holyflare wrote:

On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:

On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:

On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.

I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool.

Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running.

You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.

Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.

I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because?

None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open.

There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia?

Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely.

There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie?

So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled?

Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all???

Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective.

I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong.

Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong??

Because the reason he's saying he scumreads Koshi isn't the actual reason he was, just the one he formulated. I'm saying it's likely a gut read, presuming he's town.

Like this is quintessential bull shittery. "oh he said he was mafia but that's not reallllyyyy why he thought he was mafia."

.................

Keep stretching the narrative dude. A+

The EXACT thing that you said is a good post for harassing artanis is now the thing that you use to base a scum read on me.

i don't know how you got that out of what i said, but your analysis on artanis was good, totally fine. what i don't like is how you chewed out everyone who voted him.

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On August 27 2017 17:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Also TW please link to the posts you mention in numbers cause aint nobody got time to find all those post numbers.

if you ask about a specific one i'll find it, but i don't wanna link everything either

now i get to ask a question but it has already been asked by everyone. i eagerly await rayn's return to the thread

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 27 2017 20:34 GMT

#1546

On August 28 2017 05:27 Skynx wrote:

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Yeah sure, only to be forced to claim again the other day?

Real Jailer, DO NOT COME OUT. He's baiting you out.

skynx is mega town for this comment

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 27 2017 20:56 GMT

#1553

a respectable move but it was such an early concession i don't think i'll ever have the confidence to not lynch art. i don't like to bring this sort of stuff into reads but i know art has a long no-mislynch streak and has in the past lost motivation to play as scum easily. i expected a little more fight

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 28 2017 17:13 GMT

#1721

On August 28 2017 13:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Damn tried to put a trap for mafia a easy way out of lynching lex if lex is mafia and no one was biting

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lmao this is so --sick plays-- that ls is conftown

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 28 2017 17:18 GMT

#1722

On August 28 2017 14:01 ruXxar wrote:

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Your scum play is too predictable.
You might as well post baby seals right now.

yup ruxxar is completely off the table too

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 28 2017 17:32 GMT

#1723

i'm not 100% certain that rayn is scum but why lynch him today? jk can fish for a save (to get us a mislynch, which is huge) and then claim tomorrow, or even d4, or accidentally get nk'd anyway. unless you really think art is town or something

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 28 2017 17:59 GMT

#1730

On August 29 2017 02:32 Tumblewood wrote:
i'm not 100% certain that rayn is scum but why lynch him today? jk can fish for a save (to get us a mislynch, which is huge) and then claim tomorrow, or even d4, or accidentally get nk'd anyway. unless you really think art is town or something

if the first sentence is what ticks you off, rayn, it was supposed to say "that rayn is town". idk why i wrote scum there.

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 29 2017 15:33 GMT

#1797

i think the mafia team is pretty likely art/onegu/oats, or if not maybe art/onegu/hf. i'd be fine with lynching art or onegu today, the excuse-to-content ratio in the last 72 hours is high with both of them. but art may be slightly preferable because if we're wrong we learn a lot more about d1

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 29 2017 16:20 GMT

#1799

On August 30 2017 01:11 Onegu wrote:
Ok I am here, taking my placeholder off.

Looks like TW is butthurt I RNG him...

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did you actually catch up this time

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 29 2017 19:51 GMT

#1844

this is a surprise

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 29 2017 19:52 GMT

#1845

unless it is exactly hf/geript/oats some major assumption i made about this game is wrong

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 29 2017 20:09 GMT

#1847

On August 30 2017 04:57 Oatsmaster wrote:

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It's not exactly hf/geript/oats
What major assumption about the game did you make?

someone i had written off as town is not town. it might be damdred. imma have to reread d1 to make sense of it.

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 29 2017 20:14 GMT

#1848

i could believe a geript/damdred/x team. it makes sense if geript is scum for damdred to start another wagon on art, which drew everyone off the geript wagon. it just seems off that scum would put all their eggs in one basket in a tvt run-off

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 29 2017 20:42 GMT

#1852

i wasn't there to see deadline unfold and i'm piecing it together from the vote count. but if i am wrong on anyone it's you

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 30 2017 17:17 GMT

#1976

wowo this thread self destructed

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 30 2017 17:21 GMT

#1982

my god rux. if rayn is not jk, who is and why did they not cc

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 30 2017 17:25 GMT

#1984

On August 31 2017 02:23 ruXxar wrote:
Keep on blue hunting guys.

...

Might aswell just post your scum role PM in the thread. Noones gonna do anything about it.

i think this is the first stage of grief

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