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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2017 19:49 GMT
#701
On August 26 2017 04:45 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 26 2017 04:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:39 Holyflare wrote:
What do you wanna talk about? I don't understand this whole geript thing

Idk, i think Koshi might be right in geript's Tumblewood read being shit.
Or do you think Tumblewood is mafia?


I've read like one thing tw wrote and it was a bad town read list. I have no opinion other than that.

I only had a problem with Tumblewood's read on geript, or how he kinda.. umm.. "brushed off reading him" based on "yeah that's okay" when it really wasn't that clear at all. But like, i think town!Tumblewood can do that. Idk, i don't really have problems with his other posts, making a list me or you think is bad doesn't really add up to being mafia in itself.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2017 19:56 GMT
#702
On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
[image loading]


3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.


Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2017 19:59 GMT
#703
gonna play a couple of games of scbw, be back in 30mins
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
August 25 2017 20:03 GMT
#704
On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
[quote]
nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
[image loading]


3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.


Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?

He calling me mafia for those points.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2017 20:03 GMT
#705
On August 26 2017 05:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
[quote]
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.


Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?

He calling me mafia for those points.

I know but idk why.
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 25 2017 20:05 GMT
#706
On August 26 2017 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 04:45 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:41 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:37 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:20 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
That's the post i initially liked from him but that's NOT what you said.
So i can't know if you are saying this now only to cover up a mistake you made as mafia.

So it doesn't matter, i only care about why you initially said what you did. So please focus on the only post you quoted from Tumblewood.

??? That post isn't even in this game...

I don't get your question rayn

wait he made a similar one let me dig it up.

this one:
On August 25 2017 06:30 Tumblewood wrote:
i don't get why it took this much effort from anyone to shit on skynx for doing something that imo is not even scummy

this is much closer to your "new" meta than what you said.
why did you decide to quote a completely irrelevant post instead?

It's not a completely irrelevant post; it's a post I liked better. It's a post that stuck in my mind because it was more than just #metaread.

really? a post that says "i didn't wanna do anything just because"?? I am not sure if i believe this.

Alright, were not getting anywhere further here, what's your read on ruxxar and Skynx?

I don't have one.
could you form any?

I don't know. I'm kinda just playing the game as a distraction for myself right now.

Can you give a read on them please? Anything, if you wanna stand on "i can't form a read on them atm" then say so.

It's a bit closer to "I'm not in good headspace right now and am incapable." But it's something to do I guess.

Ruxxar feels a little chipper; it makes me want to vomit. Activity wise he looks like Town. He seems kinda on track which is different. I don't mean "on the right track" but in Generic 3 he was all over the place and just kinda followed whatever the hot topic is at the time. Whereas here he seems a bit singular or focused. For some reason I keep coming back to this post:
On August 26 2017 00:03 ruXxar wrote:
HF said that you were thinking about koshi in a backwards way from "if koshi is mafia these guys are town" instead of "if koshi is town, these guys are mafia".

But taking into view that you actually suspected koshi for being mafia, it makes perfect sense that you used that view in your thoughts and not the other way around.

Idk why. I don't like it.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 25 2017 20:19 GMT
#707
Skynx is boring. Maybe slightly more active. Maybe I just don't care, but there's not anything I find interesting either way.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22190 Posts
August 25 2017 20:35 GMT
#708
On August 25 2017 23:54 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 19:02 Koshi wrote:
Oatsmaster, Ruxxar, Geript

I think I am lynching into this. If town wants Skynx it will be without my support.


Mafia.



On August 25 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
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On August 25 2017 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
I've read the thread.

Only solid read is that skynx is town.
I saw koshis opening post and thought koshi is mafia, just as skynx did.




Explain why you thought Koshi was mafia for his opening post alone?


For the same reason that skynx did.


On August 25 2017 04:53 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2017 06:34 Koshi wrote:
Hello my Minions. Your master will be doing a 1 page filter D1. He is planning on making 3 big quality posts and around 15 "fluff" posts but only when he politely is asked a question or feels like barking a question. Good Minions know that the great leader should be followed, and even naughty Minions know to at least sheep the master his list. Evil Minions will be dealt with. Swiftly and without mercy.

Your leader has spoken. Hail to the great leader.

(Generic 3)
Koshi posts gameplans as mafia

##Vote: Koshi



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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22190 Posts
August 25 2017 20:41 GMT
#709
I'm really paranoid of HF already. Will try to find a way to sum it all up into words at some point.

Don't like Koshi wagon.

Don't like Ruxxar's filter so far either cause he just made up a shit reason to pile up on Koshi.

Oats list is all backwards, props and townie points to TW for noticing.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 25 2017 20:41 GMT
#710
I'm not particularly bothered.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22190 Posts
August 25 2017 20:45 GMT
#711
I want to murder Ruxxar instead of Skynx I think. He's getting it all wrong and just piling bs upon bs,
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 25 2017 20:49 GMT
#712
Ruxxar good kill
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22190 Posts
August 25 2017 20:57 GMT
#713
On August 26 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
Its more interesting that Koshi seems to assume that there is some giant town push about to go down on skynx and he has to stand against us to defend him.


This is the only good post I could accept him scumreading Koshi for, BUT

, it doesn't really make sense when Ruxxar starts out the game by top towning skynx anyway.

What's wrong with Koshi trying to defend a mutual townread?


Instead we get:

Ruxxar getting it wrong on the gameplan thing completely missing that it's a NAI thing as pointed out by three people who are most likely not mafia (imo), and he has no read on anyway. That'd be me, TW, LS.

Calling Koshi's 8 page filter which imo looks rather extensive "superficial".

Complaining that Koshi scumreads afkers/low hanging fruit before even having an own read on those. This is also a NAI reason even if Koshi did that.

When Koshi posts another different list, Ruxxar doesn't reeval, instead he calls the entire wagon on Koshi omgus. Even if it's a joke, it's lazy and I'd expect him to try to find something wrong with the new reads, not just making a joke and lazily remain parked on Koshil.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2017 21:04 GMT
#714
On August 26 2017 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar good kill

no geript is scum. look at his ruxxar read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2017 21:05 GMT
#715
On August 26 2017 05:45 Vivax wrote:
I want to murder Ruxxar instead of Skynx I think. He's getting it all wrong and just piling bs upon bs,

I think you're bad then. Ruxxar getting it all wrong doesnt make him mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2017 21:05 GMT
#716
Skynx, Artanis, geript.

Final answer.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2017 21:11 GMT
#717
I am jsut 50/50 if i shoud say something.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2017 21:13 GMT
#718
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 25 2017 21:18 GMT
#719
Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22190 Posts
August 25 2017 21:26 GMT
#720
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.


On August 26 2017 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.

Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town?

I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.

Ok so if geript is mafia and TW is town, its an easy push for geript to not lock himself out from.

If geript is mafia and TW is mafia, geript just posted a totally unconvincing townread just so he, one vote, doesnt have to vote TW at the end of the day. There are many better things that he can do to end up with his vote on someone thats town. So this doesnt make sense to me.


If geript is town then hes just playing the game as he sees it.

From my perspective, the most likely situation is that geript is town.

Why is the bolded section scummy Skynx? how does that advance mafia objectives?


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