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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
August 25 2017 21:57 GMT
#741
On August 26 2017 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning.
On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too.

So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town."

Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating.

Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame.

I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read.

I'm glad you don't want to lynch me today, but if you're town it's a lot easier to cooperate when you find out that I'm town anyway, so let's talk tomorrow mkay?

I can talk whenever you decide to say something that I think makes sense.

FTFY!
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 25 2017 21:57 GMT
#742
On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning.
On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too.

So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town."

Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating.

Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame.

I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read.


So im gonna be 100% honest. I kinda liked Artanis read earlier on, based purely on structure and convicton.
HOWEVER... im still watiing for a certain something to kick in when it comes to rayn.....

I gotta ask.. rayn dont you think im scummy?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2017 21:58 GMT
#743
On August 26 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning.
On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too.

So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town."

Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating.

Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame.

I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read.


So im gonna be 100% honest. I kinda liked Artanis read earlier on, based purely on structure and convicton.
HOWEVER... im still watiing for a certain something to kick in when it comes to rayn.....

I gotta ask.. rayn dont you think im scummy?

why does it matteR?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 25 2017 21:58 GMT
#744
On August 26 2017 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
[quote]
nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
[image loading]


3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.


Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?

This is why I think LS is mafia dude

But i have no idea why you think he is mafia.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2017 21:58 GMT
#745
On August 26 2017 06:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning.
On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too.

So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town."

Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating.

Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame.

I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read.

I'm glad you don't want to lynch me today, but if you're town it's a lot easier to cooperate when you find out that I'm town anyway, so let's talk tomorrow mkay?

I can talk whenever you decide to say something that I think makes sense.

FTFY!

correct.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21965 Posts
August 25 2017 21:59 GMT
#746
On August 26 2017 06:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.


On August 26 2017 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.

Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town?

I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.

Ok so if geript is mafia and TW is town, its an easy push for geript to not lock himself out from.

If geript is mafia and TW is mafia, geript just posted a totally unconvincing townread just so he, one vote, doesnt have to vote TW at the end of the day. There are many better things that he can do to end up with his vote on someone thats town. So this doesnt make sense to me.


If geript is town then hes just playing the game as he sees it.

From my perspective, the most likely situation is that geript is town.

Why is the bolded section scummy Skynx? how does that advance mafia objectives?


???

Whats the problem?
Geripts townread on TW was bad lol but it doesnt make him mafia for reasons that I explain in this very post...


So your conclusion is that a bad townread on a scummy person is always a townie thing?

Cause that's what it boils down to and it's an awful conclusion. Insert "X has a totally unconvincing townread on someone I think is mafia and that makes him always town". You could apply it to anyone, not just geript.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2017 22:00 GMT
#747
On August 26 2017 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
[quote]
It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
[quote]

The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

[quote]
A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

[quote]
[quote]
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
[quote]
In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.


1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.


Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?

This is why I think LS is mafia dude

But i have no idea why you think he is mafia.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.

I am gonna let you push on this if you want to.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 25 2017 22:00 GMT
#748
On August 26 2017 06:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On August 26 2017 06:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like really really closely read this:
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi.

Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread:
"he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened?
Dno much about Skynx' mafia play

...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta.

Well done.

Who typed this?

*Artanis

You think hes mafia?

Nvm, he just asked this then proceeded with other things. Might like that even less.

Lol ok sure dude. I dont have an opinion on you. Its interesting that you scumread me off that though.

Why did you ask the question if you don't do anything with it?

Its to read Rayn's alignment.
Not yours.

Duh

So how did finding out it was me help you figure out Rayn's alignment?

Ok so i thought you were talking about the mafia question.

It means that you arent townie. But at the point not scummy. SO NULL.
like i said earlier.

If it was someone else, it wouldve maybe been different. Or maybe not. I thought it was interesting
No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 25 2017 22:01 GMT
#749
On August 26 2017 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning.
On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too.

So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town."

Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating.

Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame.

I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read.


So im gonna be 100% honest. I kinda liked Artanis read earlier on, based purely on structure and convicton.
HOWEVER... im still watiing for a certain something to kick in when it comes to rayn.....

I gotta ask.. rayn dont you think im scummy?

why does it matteR?


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Sorry i cant say.. its my super secret rayn read tech..
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 25 2017 22:01 GMT
#750
On August 26 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning.
On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too.

So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town."

Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating.

Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame.

I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read.


So im gonna be 100% honest. I kinda liked Artanis read earlier on, based purely on structure and convicton.
HOWEVER... im still watiing for a certain something to kick in when it comes to rayn.....

I gotta ask.. rayn dont you think im scummy?

townie
good times for all
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 25 2017 22:01 GMT
#751
On August 26 2017 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]


Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.


Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?

This is why I think LS is mafia dude

But i have no idea why you think he is mafia.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.

I am gonna let you push on this if you want to.

I would rather lynch TW today.
What do you think about that?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2017 22:01 GMT
#752
Hey artanis, you happen to have any mafia reads?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2017 22:02 GMT
#753
For the record Oats is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2017 22:03 GMT
#754
On August 26 2017 07:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
[quote]
Useless question.

[quote]

Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

[quote]
Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
[quote]
It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
[quote]

The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

[quote]
A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

[quote]
[quote]
Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
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3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.


Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?

This is why I think LS is mafia dude

But i have no idea why you think he is mafia.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.

I am gonna let you push on this if you want to.

I would rather lynch TW today.
What do you think about that?

No
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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 25 2017 22:03 GMT
#755
On August 26 2017 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar good kill


Nooooooooooooo.


HF I love you. You are my idol. Dont do this to me (((((((((((((.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 25 2017 22:04 GMT
#756
On August 26 2017 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record Oats is town.


YES
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 25 2017 22:04 GMT
#757
On August 26 2017 07:01 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning.
On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too.

So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town."

Which makes it all the more annoying of how smug your next comment was. I am not scum this game, Rayn, and if you're not willing to actually talk to me and try to understand me you're going to be wrong for a long time to come if you don't get your checks off. I'll be around tomorrow until 4pmish, and I want you to actually talk to me and share reads without this smug shit as it can be infuriating.

Unless you've already decided I'm scum forever, in which case I'll just have to laugh at you postgame.

I probably want to lynch Skynx here. If i am wrong you can call me bad, but now i dont see any reason to not trust this read.


So im gonna be 100% honest. I kinda liked Artanis read earlier on, based purely on structure and convicton.
HOWEVER... im still watiing for a certain something to kick in when it comes to rayn.....

I gotta ask.. rayn dont you think im scummy?

townie


.... Not sure how to react to this.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
August 25 2017 22:05 GMT
#758
On August 26 2017 07:04 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record Oats is town.


YES

Youre town too but youre also the dumbest idiot who has set foot on this game...
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 25 2017 22:05 GMT
#759
On August 26 2017 06:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.


On August 26 2017 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.

Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town?

I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.

Ok so if geript is mafia and TW is town, its an easy push for geript to not lock himself out from.

If geript is mafia and TW is mafia, geript just posted a totally unconvincing townread just so he, one vote, doesnt have to vote TW at the end of the day. There are many better things that he can do to end up with his vote on someone thats town. So this doesnt make sense to me.


If geript is town then hes just playing the game as he sees it.

From my perspective, the most likely situation is that geript is town.

Why is the bolded section scummy Skynx? how does that advance mafia objectives?


???

Whats the problem?
Geripts townread on TW was bad lol but it doesnt make him mafia for reasons that I explain in this very post...


So your conclusion is that a bad townread on a scummy person is always a townie thing?

Cause that's what it boils down to and it's an awful conclusion. Insert "X has a totally unconvincing townread on someone I think is mafia and that makes him always town". You could apply it to anyone, not just geript.

My conclusion is that geript's initial townread on TW at that point of time makes no sense if hes mafia.

I dont know why you want to generalize it to that extent but go ahead man.

Anyway, so how does that make me mafia?

No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 25 2017 22:06 GMT
#760
On August 26 2017 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 06:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
[quote]


Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o

Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.





On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:
On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.


The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.


geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.


This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro
[image loading]


3/20



Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.


Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.


Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?

This is why I think LS is mafia dude

But i have no idea why you think he is mafia.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???
Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.

Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie


You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.

I am gonna let you push on this if you want to.


Why are you the gatekeeper that says what we can do or not? Oatsmaster is a fucking G. he can push whatever he wants to. nd yeah, I actually happen to like the idea he pushes here.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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