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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 25 2017 18:29 GMT
#621
On August 26 2017 03:25 Tumblewood wrote:
this just in: rayn is downgraded to scumlean, for something 20 pages back.
scumlean for what i call "lawyering" against skynx, aka asking so many questions that even a townie is likely to slip up (at least enough to be pushable). not scumread because i am aware rayn is known to ask lots of questions normally, however this time is a little Different

How is it a little different from a misguided townie asking questions?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 25 2017 18:29 GMT
#622
Yeah im not lynching HF today lol.

On August 25 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
Read koshi filter and his posts towards tw. Realise tw was a scum read and it's disappeared off the face of the earth.

Then look at his skynx progression. Skynx is probably mafia/bad looking after i post a good case (never votes skynx) into nothing changing but somehow he won't join the skynx wagon and now skynx is not even a mafia read. No posts in between.

His artanis read is "that's a good thought" but anyone with any semblance of a town thought can see artanis' read is forced as fuck and crumbled completely but koshi bypasses that.

Koshi's list of mafia initially magically became a list of an afk guy, a guy with 1 post and geript. Trash tier list. Now he got called out for it he's had to completely change it to some new bs that isn't congruent with his thoughts at all.

His post to me when I fake claimed mafia was also talking to me like I was town and should "join the town circle" pandering to me because he knows my alignment. He purports he didn't realise but that's bs.

Every koshi thought has been completely contradicted by his actions. There are either two koshis playing on his account or he's mafia.

I like this.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 25 2017 18:30 GMT
#623
I think you just turned what geript said (as town) in the last game he said how he reads you, upside down.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 25 2017 18:30 GMT
#624
Well Oatsmaster is town so that's good. Now if Ruxxar would just post more it would be nice.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 25 2017 18:31 GMT
#625
On August 26 2017 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 03:15 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tumblewood:
On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.

Does this look anything comparable to geript's read on you this game?

yes as in i think his meta is consistent, but i don't think that quote is a complete representation of his meta. later that game -- or if that quote wasn't from mspo, sometime in mspo -- geript said "town!TW says what he thinks" a couple times and he said that exactly to start off this game. not that i think i have said what i think any more or less this game, but it is at least a consistent approach.

How is the geript quote comparable to this post he called you town for:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

Is this like... a good observation?
Or does this go well with "he says what he thinks"? I mean like you aren't really saying anything here (in mafia terms), right?

i don't know whether that post fits in geript's meta definition of "says what he thinks", but that is exactly how he described the quote in his post so i am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.
good times for all
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 25 2017 18:32 GMT
#626
I think ruxx is town too.

So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi
No gg, No skill.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 25 2017 18:35 GMT
#627
On August 26 2017 03:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 03:25 Tumblewood wrote:
this just in: rayn is downgraded to scumlean, for something 20 pages back.
scumlean for what i call "lawyering" against skynx, aka asking so many questions that even a townie is likely to slip up (at least enough to be pushable). not scumread because i am aware rayn is known to ask lots of questions normally, however this time is a little Different

How is it a little different from a misguided townie asking questions?

i don't think rayn asking questions is misguided when he is town. like of course it makes sense to ask questions to figure out someone's alignment. but the reason i say lawyering is because a real technique lawyers use is to question witnesses rapidfire in the hopes they say something stupid so they can slam them for it. and rayn's questioning of skynx seemed like that to me, like it had a high chance of creating a slip that wasn't there. however if skynx is scum (which i don't think is true but always worth it to consider the possibility) rayn is 99% town.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 25 2017 18:36 GMT
#628
On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.

So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi

wow i am impressed you basically managed to name my top 4 town in order
good times for all
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 25 2017 18:37 GMT
#629
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Wait Tumblewood you mean this post?

What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more?

1) says what he thinks
2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything

We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 25 2017 18:37 GMT
#630
On August 26 2017 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well Oatsmaster is town so that's good. Now if Ruxxar would just post more it would be nice.

The bad thing is that we will almost definitely lose this game and i know it already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 25 2017 18:40 GMT
#631
On August 26 2017 03:35 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 03:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:25 Tumblewood wrote:
this just in: rayn is downgraded to scumlean, for something 20 pages back.
scumlean for what i call "lawyering" against skynx, aka asking so many questions that even a townie is likely to slip up (at least enough to be pushable). not scumread because i am aware rayn is known to ask lots of questions normally, however this time is a little Different

How is it a little different from a misguided townie asking questions?

i don't think rayn asking questions is misguided when he is town. like of course it makes sense to ask questions to figure out someone's alignment. but the reason i say lawyering is because a real technique lawyers use is to question witnesses rapidfire in the hopes they say something stupid so they can slam them for it. and rayn's questioning of skynx seemed like that to me, like it had a high chance of creating a slip that wasn't there. however if skynx is scum (which i don't think is true but always worth it to consider the possibility) rayn is 99% town.

I do not do that Tumblewood... As mafia i ask questions in a way where i can turn the answers (whatever they are) profitable for me. As town i am actually curious why someone did something. You can decide which one this is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 25 2017 18:42 GMT
#632
Actually i did ask one loaded question from skynx but that was for a reason.
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Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 25 2017 18:43 GMT
#633
On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Wait Tumblewood you mean this post?

What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more?

1) says what he thinks
2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything

We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example.

i don't know anymore who you are accusing or why but if geript is mafia it is not for how he applied meta on me. so please stop making me explain the same thing over and over
good times for all
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 25 2017 18:44 GMT
#634
On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Wait Tumblewood you mean this post?

What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more?

1) says what he thinks
2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything

We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example.

geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense.
table for two on a tv tray
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 25 2017 18:45 GMT
#635
On August 26 2017 03:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
As mafia i ask questions in a way where i can turn the answers (whatever they are) profitable for me.

i should try that sometime
good times for all
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 25 2017 18:46 GMT
#636
On August 26 2017 03:43 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Wait Tumblewood you mean this post?

What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more?

1) says what he thinks
2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything

We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example.

i don't know anymore who you are accusing or why but if geript is mafia it is not for how he applied meta on me. so please stop making me explain the same thing over and over

I am not accusing anyone, i am asking you why you are saying geript's meta read (what is what YOU think it was) makes complete sense, when it doesn't, if it is one.

I see an inconsistency, i question it. I wanna know what i am missing or why do you think so in the first place?
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 25 2017 18:48 GMT
#637
On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Wait Tumblewood you mean this post?

What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more?

1) says what he thinks
2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything

We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example.

geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense.

I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 25 2017 18:49 GMT
#638
Like let me make this very simple:

- Tumblewood makes a post
- geript calls it town
- Tumblewood says "that's how geript reads me" (meta)
- We dig up geript's meta on Tumblewood
- geript's meta from his last game as town suggests that he should actually scumread Tumblewood for that post based on meta(my opinion)

Now i want to know why you, Tumblewood, made the bolded post, because i don't understand why you think so.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
August 25 2017 18:49 GMT
#639
On August 26 2017 03:48 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Wait Tumblewood you mean this post?

What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more?

1) says what he thinks
2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything

We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example.

geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense.

I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him.

Was that before or after Tublewood said "that's how geript reads me"?
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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
August 25 2017 18:52 GMT
#640
On August 26 2017 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 03:48 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:
On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Wait Tumblewood you mean this post?

What does it matter what geript says if he is mafia (which you shouldn't know at this point if you're town). I mean if he is mafia he can easily have TMI and just say something he knows is "right" since he knows your alignment. Which of the following does the post you made associate with more?

1) says what he thinks
2) lower activity and struggled to post almost anything

We are talking about mafia terms here. I mean like saying "fuck you" literally counts as not saying anything for example.

geript you need to answer this one too since your tumblewood read, based on this makes no fucking sense.

I thought I did. It's something I noticed while filtering TWs games last game and used it to push him.

Was that before or after Tublewood said "that's how geript reads me"?

I don't know. I think after, but tbh imo not sure I posted it.
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