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On August 25 2017 17:58 Vivax wrote:
And geript ACTUALLY posted a townie seal, why is he even up for discussion. 100 % confirmed town. No, 90% for adding a lot of text I will read later. But it really wasn't necessary with the seal.
Has he ever posted it before?
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Geript break down this koshi read into small bullet points. I'm not reading your walls of text again.
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On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely.
There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie?
So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled?
Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all???
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On August 25 2017 18:20 Koshi wrote:
Last time he called me mafia because I both said:
1) Geript is mafia for not having an opinion on thread leaders when he came back.
2) Geript is mafia for saying Koshi is mafia based on a townread on rayn.
Which in his eyes makes it so that I scumread him both for not having an opinion and having an opinion on thread leaders.
I mean it's not wrong. It's not a write an essay about reason though.
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On March 05 2014 09:06 geript wrote:Ok so here's the post I was working on. I have to head to work. I wish I could fight this further, but ever since I heard about being able to post baby seals I've wanted so badly. You got me. I don't think I could've gotten to endgame regardless because of how much I bus my partners. At least I had Rayn in my pocket; I really shouldn't have killed him. + Show Spoiler +Original Message From geript: NO U ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HrggHWB.png)
This post is entirely facetious btw. He was town in the game.
Either way he's only posted it once that I could find from digging and he was town and he felt bad because it was cheap but he meant it when he posted it.
Cool free town read.
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What does that even mean? Where does he even hint at that last game?
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If you can't post where I'm gonna scum read you btw 
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Artanis and skynx aren't mafia together. It has been decided.
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But they're both still mafia. Impossible I know.
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On August 25 2017 18:44 Koshi wrote:
Not at all. I am just saying. I can see him use it as mafia this game.
Also. Him posting that seal + an essay on why he is town doesn't make it more believable.
For me he is still mafia.
Pretty true though.
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And why don't we have your support when you said the points were good?
And why no artanis?
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Nah that's bs. Your filter is littered with skynx being mafia and using people not talking about skynx to mafia read them.
Now you want to lynch 2 afkers and a guy who posted townie seal?
Koshi you're mafia man. Sucks.
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On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all??? Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective.
I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong.
Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong??
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It's totally different if this was day 2 and he'd been scum reading koshi for a while and was biased towards koshi being scum which is what I think you're getting at. But this was his second post in the game and by the third his theory had gone. That was his only suspicion of koshi. No other reason.
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I did, you're mafia
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Also the thing is I don't care about skynx and this has nothing to do with skynx. I'm trying to get a read on artanis and why he thinks this way when there's no to support the narrative he's pushing.
It makes skynx town after all if artanis is mafia.
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The narrative that somehow skynx was so stubborn with his mafia read from his first post even after he disproved himself in his second so much so that his whole world revolved around you being mafia still.
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Did someone hit you with a stupid stick? If artanis' view is tmi it would be good to know that he's mafia don't you think?
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On August 25 2017 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 19:55 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.
I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool. Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running. You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.
I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because? None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open. There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia? Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely. There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie? So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled? Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all??? Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective. I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong. Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong?? Because the reason he's saying he scumreads Koshi isn't the actual reason he was, just the one he formulated. I'm saying it's likely a gut read, presuming he's town.
Like this is quintessential bull shittery. "oh he said he was mafia but that's not reallllyyyy why he thought he was mafia."
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Keep stretching the narrative dude. A+
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