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On August 26 2017 03:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:57 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:44 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town. and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town i dont care about townreads lol. ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario So its halfway through day 1, and you have 3 people town. The reason I dont care about townreads is because the objective of the game is to lynch mafia, not find town people and waffle around during the day 1 lynch. it kinda does help when you can narrow the mafia pool down continuously and home in on 4-5 possible mafia. which is exactly what i plan to do. you can call townreads garbage, but i think your tells are way outdated, so how about i keep playing the game in a way that works for me and maybe we can lynch some mafia anyway. So whos mafia? hf / rayn / rux / art / geript / you. pick 3 and this list is the safe list. Almost impossible to not have all 3 in here.
Dude why you ignoring LS and TW???
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On August 26 2017 03:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:11 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:57 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:44 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town. and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town i dont care about townreads lol. ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario So its halfway through day 1, and you have 3 people town. The reason I dont care about townreads is because the objective of the game is to lynch mafia, not find town people and waffle around during the day 1 lynch. it kinda does help when you can narrow the mafia pool down continuously and home in on 4-5 possible mafia. which is exactly what i plan to do. you can call townreads garbage, but i think your tells are way outdated, so how about i keep playing the game in a way that works for me and maybe we can lynch some mafia anyway. So whos mafia? hf / rayn / rux / art / geript / you. pick 3 Well you see, you need to pick 3, not me. Can you give any reasons at all for any one of your scumreads?? Oats, he hasn't have to do shit. He eliminated 6 townies and is left with 3 towns and 3 mafia. The guy is confirmed town. Be a hero and pick out the 3 mafia out of his list instead of pushing TW to do something he isn't comfortable doing. TW has town hero reads.
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On August 26 2017 03:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue. Will check this later to see if this is true.
Why would you post this???
koshi might actually be mafia
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Koshi, tell me how HF is mafia
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On August 26 2017 03:23 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue. Will check this later to see if this is true. Why would you post this??? koshi might actually be mafia Just noting it for myself???
Because you look at your filter??
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On August 26 2017 03:25 Tumblewood wrote:
this just in: rayn is downgraded to scumlean, for something 20 pages back.
scumlean for what i call "lawyering" against skynx, aka asking so many questions that even a townie is likely to slip up (at least enough to be pushable). not scumread because i am aware rayn is known to ask lots of questions normally, however this time is a little Different
How is it a little different from a misguided townie asking questions?
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Yeah im not lynching HF today lol.
On August 25 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
Read koshi filter and his posts towards tw. Realise tw was a scum read and it's disappeared off the face of the earth.
Then look at his skynx progression. Skynx is probably mafia/bad looking after i post a good case (never votes skynx) into nothing changing but somehow he won't join the skynx wagon and now skynx is not even a mafia read. No posts in between.
His artanis read is "that's a good thought" but anyone with any semblance of a town thought can see artanis' read is forced as fuck and crumbled completely but koshi bypasses that.
Koshi's list of mafia initially magically became a list of an afk guy, a guy with 1 post and geript. Trash tier list. Now he got called out for it he's had to completely change it to some new bs that isn't congruent with his thoughts at all.
His post to me when I fake claimed mafia was also talking to me like I was town and should "join the town circle" pandering to me because he knows my alignment. He purports he didn't realise but that's bs.
Every koshi thought has been completely contradicted by his actions. There are either two koshis playing on his account or he's mafia.
I like this.
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I think ruxx is town too.
So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi
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On August 26 2017 03:35 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:25 Tumblewood wrote:
this just in: rayn is downgraded to scumlean, for something 20 pages back.
scumlean for what i call "lawyering" against skynx, aka asking so many questions that even a townie is likely to slip up (at least enough to be pushable). not scumread because i am aware rayn is known to ask lots of questions normally, however this time is a little Different How is it a little different from a misguided townie asking questions? i don't think rayn asking questions is misguided when he is town. like of course it makes sense to ask questions to figure out someone's alignment. but the reason i say lawyering is because a real technique lawyers use is to question witnesses rapidfire in the hopes they say something stupid so they can slam them for it. and rayn's questioning of skynx seemed like that to me, like it had a high chance of creating a slip that wasn't there. however if skynx is scum (which i don't think is true but always worth it to consider the possibility) rayn is 99% town.
Yeah but did rayn captilize on any slip made by skynx that you think is not really indicative?
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On August 26 2017 03:53 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:23 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue. Will check this later to see if this is true. Why would you post this??? koshi might actually be mafia Just noting it for myself??? Because you look at your filter?? I do look at my own filter at times why?
Great then.
So if what rayn said is true, any conclusions you can draw from it?
If it isnt true, what are the conclusions?
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I think its pretty clear why I think LS is mafia
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On August 26 2017 04:05 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:59 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:53 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:23 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:21 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 03:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 03:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 03:09 Koshi wrote:
Like... Both HF and Vivax are notoriously bad on D1. How can you even say this? Last 3 games holyflare has wanted to lynch mafia every D1 (2 mafia in generic), in all of those games town just went for some dumb option instead in the end. Like saying that is completely untrue. Will check this later to see if this is true. Why would you post this??? koshi might actually be mafia Just noting it for myself??? Because you look at your filter?? I do look at my own filter at times why? Great then. So if what rayn said is true, any conclusions you can draw from it? If it isnt true, what are the conclusions? It's a lie but idk why Koshi would lie about that honestly I will ask him when he gets back on why he lied there.
Ok so its a lie, what does that mean about Koshi's alignment if it is an intentional lie or unintentional lie?
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On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.
On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
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On August 26 2017 04:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like really really closely read this: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread: "he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened? Dno much about Skynx' mafia play ...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta. Well done. Who typed this? *Artanis You think hes mafia? Nvm, he just asked this then proceeded with other things. Might like that even less.
Lol ok sure dude. I dont have an opinion on you. Its interesting that you scumread me off that though.
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On August 26 2017 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:32 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
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nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit. On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. Wait Oats, what are you trying to say here?
This is why I think LS is mafia dude
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On August 26 2017 05:41 Vivax wrote:
Oats list is all backwards, props and townie points to TW for noticing.
Dont be salty
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On August 26 2017 05:45 Vivax wrote:
I want to murder Ruxxar instead of Skynx I think. He's getting it all wrong and just piling bs upon bs,
Explain how its BS and not ruxxar being wrong.
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On August 26 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.
Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.
Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.
Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.
Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town? I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on. Ok so if geript is mafia and TW is town, its an easy push for geript to not lock himself out from. If geript is mafia and TW is mafia, geript just posted a totally unconvincing townread just so he, one vote, doesnt have to vote TW at the end of the day. There are many better things that he can do to end up with his vote on someone thats town. So this doesnt make sense to me. If geript is town then hes just playing the game as he sees it. From my perspective, the most likely situation is that geript is town. Why is the bolded section scummy Skynx? how does that advance mafia objectives? ???
Whats the problem?
Geripts townread on TW was bad lol but it doesnt make him mafia for reasons that I explain in this very post...
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On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Will respond to the rest of the thread tomorrow morning. Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed. Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hi artanis i think your team has to deal with me D2 too.  So I read this at the gas station and since then a few thoughts went through my head. First one was "yay, my JK claim on D1 that one game may no longer be the sole worst D1 claim anymore!" and "Don't see any reason for Rayn to do this as scum. He's already townread pretty hard, just paints a bullseye on his head and he'll have a hard time explaining why he's alive." to "Actually might not be as bad a claim as I thought. Scum'll have to play the shell game with the jk, and that's presuming it's genuine. Also makes Rayn likely town." .
This is pretty unnecessary
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On August 26 2017 06:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 04:33 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 04:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 26 2017 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like really really closely read this: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread: "he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened? Dno much about Skynx' mafia play ...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta. Well done. Who typed this? *Artanis You think hes mafia? Nvm, he just asked this then proceeded with other things. Might like that even less. Lol ok sure dude. I dont have an opinion on you. Its interesting that you scumread me off that though. Why did you ask the question if you don't do anything with it?
Its to read Rayn's alignment.
Not yours.
Duh
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